Confirmed Trade: [PIT/FLA] Colton Sceviour and Mike Matheson for Patric Hornqvist

[The Old Master]

How can an AHL caliber defenseman fits any need?

on a team that has jj........you might want to reconsider.

 

[The Old Master]

Fair enough. You have good points. We’ll see.

but I think it’s a good trade for the Panthers anyways.

i agree. you could always flip him at the trade deadline for more than you paid.

 

[Fatass]

Another win trade for JR. he’s going for another Cup, which is what a smart GM does that has star players. He supports them.

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

I am not surprised. Hornqvist wasn't getting used on the 1st PP for much of the year and not in our top 6. It is hard to keep a $5.3 million cap hit with the usage he was getting as a 3rd line player. At soon to be 34 and without very good speed it was time to move on. Kapanen was added as a RW this off-season and he brings a ton of speed and is 10 years younger than Hornqvist.

Matheson is a risk but at 26 and past years of 21+ minutes a game plus 8-10 goals a year and 27 points in two of the past 3 season's is a good player to bet on. Pens have a great track record with these types of defenseman such as Niskanen, Daley, and Schultz. All of those defenseman did terrible for the teams before the trade to the Pens and all did well fairly quickly for us. I think it is a good chance he works out for the Pens and is much better for us than people think. I will go on record that he eventually beats out Pettersson for that 2nd pairing defense spot next to Marino.

Wasn’t JJ also a reclamation project? Gudbranson?

I agree with reclamation projects but this is a risky one as the term is really long, so if we can’t make it work, we’ll give an asset to get him off our books (if that is even possible). Again, look at JJ.

Daley/Schultz/Nisky were relatively cheap contracts with a lot less term. Lower risk.

I think it comes down to not having a choice but to go down this path. No matter how risky it is.

 

[Jerkbait]

Wasn’t JJ also a reclamation project? Gudbranson?

I agree with reclamation projects but this is a risky one as the term is really long, so if we can’t make it work, we’ll give an asset to get him off our books (if that is even possible). Again, look at JJ.

Daley/Schultz/Nisky were relatively cheap contracts with a lot less term. Lower risk.

I think it comes down to not having a choice but to go down this path. No matter how risky it is.

Risk is needed to win... they know how to win...its not about 4 years from now its now.... i liked the trade until they added a bottom 6 guy... he seems serviceable so I hope this means ZAR is gone

 

[CartographerNo611]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Edit: Just drying out his equipment.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Risk is needed to win... they know how to win...its not about 4 years from now its now.... i liked the trade until they added a bottom 6 guy... he seems serviceable so I hope this means ZAR is gone

Remember that ZAR is out until at least February so he needed to be replaced one way or another until then. Ideally by someone who can knock him off the depth chart entirely...not sure if Sceviour, who will be about to turn 32 around the time ZAR comes back, is the guy who does that.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Guess it’s safe to say Patrick is pretty upset with the trade.

Kingerski is a bullshit source. He was probably just airing out his equipment.

But if that is true, not a good look for Hornqvist. Dude had the power to kill any trade, but he doesn't and then throws a tantrum about being traded? Just kill the trade if you want to stay so bad.

 

[Ugene Magic]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Guess it’s safe to say Patrick is pretty upset with the trade.

 

[SomeDude]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Guess it’s safe to say Patrick is pretty upset with the trade.

Or it's safe to say he didn't want his million dollar home smelling like sweaty Swedish Meatballs.

Kingerski is the worst. The. Worst.

 

[JT Kreider]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Guess it’s safe to say Patrick is pretty upset with the trade.

LMAOOO I left my equipment on my driveway all the time, and it wasnt because I was sending a message to my coach that I hated him for benching me for starting a post whistle line brawl.

 

[torrencemd]

Cant get mad when you get younger. Pens needed a change and a 5.3 million dollar 34 year old injury prone, point declining winger signed for 3 more years was not going to fly. I know many a pens fan wanting to offload his contract because it was too much. Matheson is a mobile D man that fills out our bottom pairing and pretty much seals JJs fate of being moved or waived which is a win in itself. Cant really see how this is such a terrible trade when you fill two roster slots ...

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Patric Hornqvist Puts His Penguins Equipment in Driveway

Guess it’s safe to say Patrick is pretty upset with the trade.

From the article:

UPDATE: A source from the Penguins expressed to PHN that Hornqvist has been skating for several days in Pittsburgh, and drying his equipment is a plausible explanation.

I don't know why anyone believes anything that idiot Kingerski writes about.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

From the article:



I don't know why anyone believes anything that idiot Kingerski writes about.

Almost anyone who has played hockey saw that pic and likely thought “dude is airing out his gear” since it’s so f***ing common to do.

I can’t stop laughing that guy wants clicks bad enough that he tried to make that a story.

 

[Ghost of Ethan Hunt]

just saw this, not sure what to make of it...

 

[cvrle1]

just saw this, not sure what to make of it...

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All you need to make of it is listed above few posts. It is a nothing story. He was airing out his equipment, thats all to it.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Almost anyone who has played hockey saw that pic and likely thought “dude is airing out his gear” since it’s so f***ing common to do.

I can’t stop laughing that guy wants clicks bad enough that he tried to make that a story.

It's actually pathetic. But also not surprising, given the source.

 

[Pens x]

A lose-lose trade for everyone.

FL gets a guy whose body continues to crumble, signed for too much cap while the Penguins get one of the worst contracts for a healthy scratch. I think FL loses less since Hornqvist isn’t signed to an eternity like Matheson.

 

[Laus723]

A lose-lose trade for everyone.

FL gets a guy whose body continues to crumble, signed for too much cap while the Penguins get one of the worst contracts for a healthy scratch. I think FL loses less since Hornqvist isn’t signed to an eternity like Matheson.

it’s definitely not a loss for the Panthers, anyway you slice it, could also work out to be a win for the Pens.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Panthers win because Matheson clearly wasnt working there. They get to add some heart & soul. An expensive heart & soul but its certainly something they can use.

Pens can win because Hornqvist is old and slow and an expensive 3rd liner while Matheson even with the warts is better than JMFJ. If the can iron out some of the turnovers they could do pretty well in general.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

It's actually pathetic. But also not surprising, given the source.

I’m waiting for the tweet about Hornqvist putting out his trash... juicy stuff bro.

 

[Jerkbait]

Remember that ZAR is out until at least February so he needed to be replaced one way or another until then. Ideally by someone who can knock him off the depth chart entirely...not sure if Sceviour, who will be about to turn 32 around the time ZAR comes back, is the guy who does that.

That's fine but too much salary for one spot... won't work...d9nt be shocked if ZAR and Simon are moved ..

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I’m waiting for the tweet about Hornqvist putting out his trash... juicy stuff bro.

"Hornqvist throws out boxes of Little Caesar's Pizza"

Kingerski: "It seems Rutherford had a trade in line with Detroit but Hornqvist is showing what he thought of being dealt there"

 

[wetcoast]

Another head scratcher for Penguins and JR.

Matheson is a replacement player to me with one of the worst contracts in the league. To me he's essentially younger JJ who can skate fast.

Sure but Hornqvist is dead weight and most likely will be out of the league in 2 years.

Not a bad trade for the Pens to be honest.

 

[Beezeral]

Kingerski is a bullshit source. He was probably just airing out his equipment.

But if that is true, not a good look for Hornqvist. Dude had the power to kill any trade, but he doesn't and then throws a tantrum about being traded? Just kill the trade if you want to stay so bad.

He’s never wearing that gear again. No need to air it out. It’s about to get donated