Confirmed Signing with Link: [PIT] Casey DeSmith extends with the Penguins (3 years, $1.25M AAV)

[ziggyjoe212]

Now perhaps Jarry can be traded for a similar level forward prospect.

 

[Nakawick]

This was a bit unexpected, figured CDS would test the market, but he now has a contract that can help set him up for like after hockey.

It may also mean that Jarry is on the move, perhaps not this season he is currently the clear cut #3.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Now perhaps Jarry can be traded for a similar level forward prospect.

He'll probably be traded to Carolina for Ferland at the deadline, tbh.

 

[wej20]

Not really. Grubauer got 3.3m (?) and he had a much better resume then DeSmith. DeSmith maybe could have gotten 1.5/1.8m. Maybe. And that's not a guarantee. He took a guaranteed 1.25m from PIT to avoid risking a situation where he didn't get similar offers this summer and Pittsburgh going in a different direction and him winding up losing out.

Yep. I could have seen him getting an offer of 2 maybe even 2.5 million during the summer but they'd be 1 year deals. This guarantees him 3.75 million, plus he'd only be 31 when this deal expires so would still have a decent shot at making good money if he keeps his level of play up. Also he could end up traded somewhere to be the starter before his deal is up.

 

[EXTRAS]

This could turn into an absolute monster steal of a deal. If he continues to throw up a sv percentage in the 920s it's just a mind blowingingly good deal.

Really, there isn't any downside for Pittsburgh. Even if he becomes an avg backup that's still super cheap.

 

[izzy]

surprised he signed so low for that many years

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Very good contract, surprised though with Jarry not far away

 

[wej20]

Very good contract, surprised though with Jarry not far away

Think this means Jarry's not far away from being traded. DeSmith won the job.

 

[Riptide]

surprised he signed so low for that many years

Guaranteed money from someone who's career earnings are probably around 1m (after this season finishes).

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

This is probably so Seattle takes him in the expansion draft.

But I would imagine this means Jarry gets traded in the near future.

 

[SomeDude]

Not really. Grubauer got 3.3m (?) and he had a much better resume then DeSmith. DeSmith maybe could have gotten 1.5/1.8m. Maybe. And that's not a guarantee. He took a guaranteed 1.25m from PIT to avoid risking a situation where he didn't get similar offers this summer and Pittsburgh going in a different direction and him windi.

Grubauer never hit the open market. He was a RFA and was traded to the Avs.

A team certainly would have given DeSmith a 2-3 (or more) million per year deal if he hit the open market.

Darling is a good example since he hit free agency. He got 4.1 for 4 years and had similar stats to DeSmith.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I find this very low when he had UFA rights this summer.

Could have easily gotten 2-3 M per on the market with how the goalie position is suddenly shaky for many teams.

I don't think 3 million, unless he closes out the year with 40+ games at his current save percentage, or he is the Pens starter in the playoffs. Even then, we've seen guys like Chad Johnson have 1 season as a backup who played more games than expected with a good save percentage and that didn't lead to a huge payday.

I think he could have gotten something in the 2x2 type range. Similar to a Chad Johnson or Anders Nilsson type deal.

I can see the logic in wanting to stay with Pittsburgh. Maybe he would get a bit more in the short term by leaving as a UFA, but if he stays in Pittsburgh he sets himself up for an even greater payday when he can negotiate an extension two years from now that will make up for whatever he leaves on the table. There's no guarantee if he goes to a goalie needy team that he'll play as well or as consistently in a new system.

 

[Riptide]

Grubauer never hit the open market. He was a RFA and was traded to the Avs.

A team certainly would have given DeSmith a 2-3 (or more) million per year deal if he hit the open market.

Darling is a good example since he hit free agency. He got 4.1 for 4 years and had similar stats to DeSmith.

And Darling's current performance is good example as to why a team likely wouldn't make the same mistake again.

 

[wej20]

I don't think 3 million, unless he closes out the year with 40+ games at his current save percentage, or he is the Pens starter in the playoffs. Even then, we've seen guys like Chad Johnson have 1 season as a backup who played more games than expected with a good save percentage and that didn't lead to a huge payday.

I think he could have gotten something in the 2x2 type range. Similar to a Chad Johnson or Anders Nilsson type deal.

I can see the logic in wanting to stay with Pittsburgh. Maybe he would get a bit more in the short term by leaving as a UFA, but if he stays in Pittsburgh he sets himself up for an even greater payday when he can negotiate an extension two years from now that will make up for whatever he leaves on the table. There's no guarantee if he goes to a goalie needy team that he'll play as well or as consistently in a new system.

And Scott Darling's failure in Carolina might have cooled teams jets on gambling decent money on fairly inexperienced backups.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

Solid deal... All i can think of tho is how Preds got Saros signed earlier this year for 3 years aswell and only 250,000 per year more lol... Poile is a bandit!!

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I don't really see this as a guarantee Jarry gets dealt soon. Jarry's still learning his craft in the AHL, so there's no rush for him to be on the big club. And considering Murray's had a lot of injuries, Jarry will probably still get a lot of call-up action.

Plus, Jarry's still insurance in case DeSmith is a flash in the pan and his play goes down the tubes now that he's guaranteed millions.

 

[wej20]

Solid deal... All i can think of tho is how Preds got Saros signed earlier this year for 3 years aswell and only 250,000 per year more lol... Poile is a bandit!!

Saros was an RFA, DeSmith was set to become an UFA.

I don't really see this as a guarantee Jarry gets dealt soon. Jarry's still learning his craft in the AHL, so there's no rush for him to be on the big club. And considering Murray's had a lot of injuries, Jarry will probably still get a lot of call-up action.

Plus, Jarry's still insurance in case DeSmith is a flash in the pan and his play goes down the tubes now that he's guaranteed millions.

Definitely could see them keeping Jarry till the end of the season but next season he'd have to go through waivers so I think they'd move him at the draft as I imagine he'd get claimed.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

He'll probably be traded to Carolina for Ferland at the deadline, tbh.

sure, if carolina is stupid

 

[Empoleon8771]

sure, if carolina is stupid

Why would that be Carolina being stupid? That's a super solid return for a pending UFA and their goaltending sucks.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

Why would that be Carolina being stupid? That's a super solid return for a pending UFA and their goaltending sucks.

im really not sold on jarry honestly. was not good at NHL level last year.

 

[Dominance]

Amazing deal...


Now trade Jarry to Edmonton. Management really loves their oil kings up here!

Think Chia would give us Nurse for him and Johnson?

 

[780il]

Think Chia would give us Nurse for him and Johnson?

That trade would be awful for us (more than Hall for Larsson bad) and even Chia knows that.

But then again it is Chia.....

 

[Reddwit]

Maybe he could put some of that towards educating himself on how to not get drunk and hit women.

Ahhh, there it is. Didn’t know about this history. Wouldn’t be shocked if this played into him taking a cheap deal. Pretty good chance that the media of any team that signed him in the off-season would latch on to this and make it a story for the sake of clicks. 3 years is good job security for a guy with that to his name in today’s world.

 

[CamPopplestone]

Jarry will likely be done. DeSmith proved this season he can at least fill in as starter if Murray gets hurt or struggles. And Murray is a starter.

 

[SomeDude]

And Darling's current performance is good example as to why a team likely wouldn't make the same mistake again.

Yeah, right.

If GMs learned from theirs and others mistakes, 80% of UFAs wouldn’t get overpaid.

That’s like saying a GM won’t give an aging power forward a stupid contract because Lucic, Ladd, Backes, etc deals we’re mistakes.