Proposal: PIT-BUF-CHI: Fleury Back to Pittsburgh

[displacedpensfan]

Proposal:

PIT Gets:
G Marc Andre Fleury (BUF retains 50%)

BUF Gets:
2022 2nd Round Pick (from Pittsburgh)
RD Chad Ruhwedel
G Casey DeSmith

CHI Gets:
2022 Conditional 7th (from Pittsburgh): Condition that Fleury plays 20 games for Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh gets Fleury back in a 1A/1B situation to mentor Jarry. Buffalo gets a serviceable goaltender in DeSmith (they need somebody to play between the pipes) and a decent 6th/7th D in Ruhwedel, plus the 2nd round pick for eating $3.5 million of Fleury's cap. Chicago gets a free 7th round pick for Fleury's rights.

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[dj Mahoney]

Proposal:

PIT Gets:
G Marc Andre Fleury (BUF retains 50%)

BUF Gets:
2022 2nd Round Pick (from Pittsburgh)
RD Chad Ruhwedel
G Casey DeSmith

CHI Gets:
2022 Conditional 7th (from Pittsburgh): Condition that Fleury plays 20 games for Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh gets Fleury back in a 1A/1B situation to mentor Jarry. Buffalo gets a serviceable goaltender in DeSmith (they need somebody to play between the pipes) and a decent 6th/7th D in Ruhwedel, plus the 2nd round pick for eating $3.5 million of Fleury's cap. Chicago gets a free 7th round pick for Fleury's rights.

hahahahahaa Yah right!! Dream On

 

[Jamie Winston]

Chicago has no obligation to help Pittsburgh out. You’ll have to give up something or we will just let him retire (although I don’t think he will)

 

[orby]

In this scenario, why would Pittsburgh be sending Buffalo a goalie instead of Chicago? For the sake of argument, why not this:


Tristan Jarry


PIT 2nd
Ruhwedel
(50% of Fleury's salary)


Fleury @ 50%

I don't think a trade like this gets made without a guarantee that Fleury would play for Pittsburgh and not Chicago, so the conditional 7th makes little sense to me. I also think that Pittsburgh would rather jettison Jarry than DeSmith for salary reasons and then run with an altogether different starter once Fleury is out of the picture.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Pittsburgh can’t afford this even with Fleury at 50% if the Pens are keeping Jarry.

Pens would want to keep DeSmith as the capable cheap backup.

Thus, give Chicago Jarry and the Pens keep DeSmith and it becomes a more logical deal. Logical in that the Pens can afford it.

 

[Space umpire]

Chicago would rather have Desmith and a 5th if they are helping both the Pens and MAF out. If they have to take Jarry make the 5th a 3rd instead.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Chicago has no obligation to help Pittsburgh out. You’ll have to give up something or we will just let him retire (although I don’t think he will)

Yeah, the reputation of your organization would sink even lower if you tried to pull that kind of shit

There is zero chance Chicago gets anything of value for Fleury unless they're retaining money on him.

 

[Nakawick]

In this scenario, why would Pittsburgh be sending Buffalo a goalie instead of Chicago? For the sake of argument, why not this:


Tristan Jarry


PIT 2nd
Ruhwedel
(50% of Fleury's salary)


Fleury @ 50%

I don't think a trade like this gets made without a guarantee that Fleury would play for Pittsburgh and not Chicago, so the conditional 7th makes little sense to me. I also think that Pittsburgh would rather jettison Jarry than DeSmith for salary reasons and then run with an altogether different starter once Fleury is out of the picture.

No offence, but Chicago takes that deal lol day long. They just traded an ECHL player for MAF. No way Pens are giving up Jarry, 2nd and 7th for him. If MAF won’t play for the Hawks or doesn’t want to, the Hawks are paying for not doing their due diligence. It will be them eating some salary and giving up picks. Not the Pens.

 

[thesaadfather]

No offence, but Chicago takes that deal lol day long. They just traded an ECHL player for MAF. No way Pens are giving up Jarry, 2nd and 7th for him. If MAF won’t play for the Hawks or doesn’t want to, the Hawks are paying for not doing their due diligence. It will be them eating some salary and giving up picks. Not the Pens.

Why would the Hawks eat salary and give up picks when they could just let him retire? I don't think the Hawks will be able to trade him for value without retaining or taking back salary, but they definitely won't be paying to get rid of him.

 

[SEALBound]

As a Pens fan, no.

I'm not paying that for 1 year of Fleury. Nope.

You want to take 6th and 7th round picks, Jarry, and no name prospects, sure.

Our dirt cheap #7, 2nd, and cheap backup? Nope.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Yeah, the reputation of your organization would sink even lower if you tried to pull that kind of shit

There is zero chance Chicago gets anything of value for Fleury unless they're retaining money on him.

Chicago has no incentive to trade him... this trade proposal is just the hawks helping the pens fans desperate for maf to come back.
Pittsburgh was on Mafs 10 team no trade list. If he won’t play for Chicago he won’t play for Pittsburgh. I don’t think some iffy allegations from 11 years ago will scare him away. Chances are he takes the money and potentially signs with Pittsburgh next year.

 

[SundherDome]

Whether right or wrong, Buffalo does not seem to be in the market for exchanging cap for assets. If you go 2200 miles southwest however ....

 

[Empoleon8771]

Chicago has no incentive to trade him... this trade proposal is just the hawks helping the pens fans desperate for maf to come back.

You saying "we'll just force him to retire if you don't give us what you want" is not "leverage". That's you being a spiteful jackwagon

The Hawks would be blackballed by every single UFA if they tried to pull that kind of horseshit with Fleury. Forcing a guy out of the NHL for 3 years because "we didn't get enough of a return on a guy we got for free" is absurd.

Pittsburgh was on Mafs 10 team no trade list. If he won’t play for Chicago he won’t play for Pittsburgh. I don’t think some iffy allegations from 11 years ago will scare him away. Chances are he takes the money and potentially signs with Pittsburgh next year.

Please provide a source for this. And absolute f***ing lol at you saying the accusations are "iffy". How do those boots taste?

 

[Taylorst]

Chief over at barstool sports confirmed on a trusted source , fleury is going to play for chicago.

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

You know something? I got enough of this early last decade.

 

[Taylorst]

You saying "we'll just force him to retire if you don't give us what you want" is not "leverage". That's you being a spiteful jackwagon

The Hawks would be blackballed by every single UFA if they tried to pull that kind of horseshit with Fleury. Forcing a guy out of the NHL for 3 years because "we didn't get enough of a return on a guy we got for free" is absurd.


Chief over at barstool sports confirmed yesterday evening on a close and trusted source fluery wil. Play for chicago. A Pittsburgh writer also confirmed a fanatic sports memorabilia shop has started selling autographed fluery jerseys .
Please provide a source for this. And absolute f***ing lol at you saying the accusations are "iffy". How do those boots taste?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Chief over at barstool sports confirmed yesterday evening on a close and trusted source fluery wil. Play for chicago. A Pittsburgh writer also confirmed a fanatic sports memorabilia shop has started selling autographed fluery jerseys .

Lol at using Barstool sports as a source.

But I was asking for a source that said that Fleury put Pittsburgh on his no-trade list.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Pens can give Chicago permission to speak with Clark Donatelli as part of the deal.

 

[Taylorst]

Lol at using Barstool sports as a source.

But I was asking for a source that said that Fleury put Pittsburgh on his no-trade list.

Your laughing however the writer who broke the news is highly credible. I've read the garbage coming out of Pittsburgh and it's truly wishful thinking . Pittsburgh was never a serious trading partner for obvious reasons , in order to acquire MAF they needed 2 things to happen a extra 7 million in cap space or to find multiple trading partners to move out enough salary only to then be stuck with no salary and open spaces that needed to be filled.

It was Walsh who is a known drama queen that started this nonsense.
I'll trust chief over at barstool and his reporting based on his knowledge and past predictions and writings.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Your laughing however the writer who broke the news is highly credible. I've read the garbage coming out of Pittsburgh and it's truly wishful thinking . Pittsburgh was never a serious trading partner for obvious reasons , in order to acquire MAF they needed 2 things to happen a extra 7 million in cap space or to find multiple trading partners to move out enough salary only to then be stuck with no salary and open spaces that needed to be filled.

It was Walsh who is a known drama queen that started this nonsense.
I'll trust chief over at barstool and his reporting based on his knowledge and past predictions and writings.

Lmao at anything Barstool affiliated being "credible".

The only thing that Barstool is "credible" in is how to be a frat bro douchebag

 

[Djp]

Whether right or wrong, Buffalo does not seem to be in the market for exchanging cap for assets. If you go 2200 miles southwest however ....

Not for that price.

They dont need a D on the roster.
Half of that costs more than a 2nd. Try a 1st+. This is full season 50% not a deadline expire ufa t0%.

 

[Taylorst]

Lmao at anything Barstool affiliated being "credible".

The only thing that Barstool is "credible" in is how to be a frat bro douchebag

Since you have no arguement to any facts laid out you try to bash the source. Your more than welcome to do your own research and come to the conclusion that fluery will play for chicago and Pittsburgh isn't interested in acquiring him. I'll even note after barstool posted that a Pittsburgh writer confirmed the same thing.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Since you have no arguement to any facts laid out you try to bash the source. Your more than welcome to do your own research and come to the conclusion that fluery will play for chicago and Pittsburgh isn't interested in acquiring him. I'll even note after barstool posted that a Pittsburgh writer confirmed the same thing.

Me bashing Barstool as being just a frat bro douchebag site isn't exactly unfounded

I wouldn't doubt for a second that Fleury decided to honor his contract and play for Chicago. That's not why I say that. Me bashing Barstool as a "how to be a frat bro douchebag" deals with everything else surrounding Barstool. I don't believe even for a second that anyone affiliated with Barstool has any sort of legitimate connections.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Lol at using Barstool sports as a source.

But I was asking for a source that said that Fleury put Pittsburgh on his no-trade list.

barstool has actually broken news before. Most recently the Schmaltz trade and Ian Mitchell signings. Keep using that copium though

 

[DarthProbert]

Buffalo needs Jarry more than Chicago does. I mean, pretending that Buffalo actually wants to ice an NHL team and not blatantly tank. Either way, Lankinen is better than anything Buffalo has.