Well he was right about Binnington and Allen.If Suraj was with the athletic he’d consider it
Well he was right about Binnington and Allen.If Suraj was with the athletic he’d consider it
Can’t argue with that.Well he was right about Binnington and Allen.
$8.75x8 and the main board will go into full meltdown mode.Josi coming in at $9.059 AAV. He was comically underpaid on his last deal, so I anticipate that this makes up for some of that. I'm sticking to my guns on the Petro deal at $8.75M AAV or $70M over the 8 years. Maybe in light of Josi's number we should round that up to $8.7527M or $70,021,600 over 8 years.
Expect Petro will have a full NMC and plenty of signing bonus money just like Josi.
I would expect lower than that. Assumption by LeBrun is that Petro would be $500k or more below Josi in AAV.$8.75x8 and the main board will go into full meltdown mode.
Yeah - but frankly, that's a BS assumption if you ask me.I would expect lower than that. Assumption by LeBrun is that Petro would be $500k or more below Josi in AAV.
I would be shocked if we sign him for more than Josi.Yeah - but frankly, that's a BS assumption if you ask me.
Petro is the better 2-way player and captained a Cup winner. Both guys have a pair of top-5 Norris finishes, but playoff Petro >>> playoff Josi. If I'm Petro's agent, I'm not accepting a nickel less than Josi.
I wouldn't. I believe Petro is the better, more valuable player, and if I'm his agent I push for more than Josi. Part of the reason why the Athletic panel thought Josi would come in higher was because Nashville needed him more than STL needs Petro. I don't really buy that argument, (not that it's untrue) and if Petro wants to earn more for the Cup win alone, he'll get it. The Blues aren't going to lose their captain over a few hundred K. It's a pride thing for the players and agents alike. The opinion of national writers doesn't register when it comes to finalizing a contract. I'd love to see it come in less. But how does Armstrong present a smaller offer than Josi just got and justify it?I would be shocked if we sign him for more than Josi.
It wasn't LeBrun's opinion as much as it was that of agents and execs around the league. Nobody thought Petro would get as much as Josi. Partly bc we aren't as desperate as Preds and partly due to Josi's last contract and also due to perceived value of the 2. Petro might get more than that on open market but that doesn't mean he will here.I wouldn't. I believe Petro is the better, more valuable player, and if I'm his agent I push for more than Josi. Part of the reason why the Athletic panel thought Josi would come in higher was because Nashville needed him more than STL needs Petro. I don't really buy that argument, (not that it's untrue) and if Petro wants to earn more for the Cup win alone, he'll get it. The Blues aren't going to lose their captain over a few hundred K. It's a pride thing for the players and agents alike. The opinion of national writers doesn't register when it comes to finalizing a contract. I'd love to see it come in less. But how does Armstrong present a smaller offer than Josi just got and justify it?
But neither of those things have anything to do with Pietrangelo and perceived value shouldn't matter. I hope everyone's right and he falls in line like a compliant trooper and takes $8.5M for the sake of the team. But he shouldn't, nor should he have to because of "perceived value". Newport is going to point to Josi's deal and tell Army to do better, as they should.It wasn't LeBrun's opinion as much as it was that of agents and execs around the league. Nobody thought Petro would get as much as Josi. Partly bc we aren't as desperate as Preds and partly due to Josi's last contract and also due to perceived value of the 2. Petro might get more than that on open market but that doesn't mean he will here.
The article was not a panel of writers. It was a panel of player agents and NHL front office members.I wouldn't. I believe Petro is the better, more valuable player, and if I'm his agent I push for more than Josi. Part of the reason why the Athletic panel thought Josi would come in higher was because Nashville needed him more than STL needs Petro. I don't really buy that argument, (not that it's untrue) and if Petro wants to earn more for the Cup win alone, he'll get it. The Blues aren't going to lose their captain over a few hundred K. It's a pride thing for the players and agents alike. The opinion of national writers doesn't register when it comes to finalizing a contract. I'd love to see it come in less. But how does Armstrong present a smaller offer than Josi just got and justify it?
It could be a panel a HOF-players for all I care. There's an advantage to having the other guy sign first and if I'm Newport nothing matters other than "Josi is our comparable, and Petro > Josi. Tell us why we're wrong while we play highlights of Josi playing the role of playoff windmill". Again, I simply am not of the belief that the reasons that were cited as to why Josi will command more are all that relevant or material when it comes down to it. I think $9.1M is the proper play for Army getting a deal done.The article was not a panel of writers. It was a panel of player agents and NHL front office members.
It could be a panel a HOF-players for all I care. There's an advantage to having the other guy sign first and if I'm Newport nothing matters other than "Josi is our comparable, and Petro > Josi. Tell us why we're wrong while we play highlights of Josi playing the role of playoff windmill". Again, I simply am not of the belief that the reasons that were cited as to why Josi will command more are all that relevant or material when it comes down to it. I think $9.1M is the proper play for Army getting a deal done.
If they hold to that position Petro will play somewhere else next year. Unless that is what he truly wants, that would be major fail by agents.But neither of those things have anything to do with Pietrangelo and perceived value shouldn't matter. I hope everyone's right and he falls in line like a compliant trooper and takes $8.5M for the sake of the team. But he shouldn't, nor should he have to because of "perceived value". Newport is going to point to Josi's deal and tell Army to do better, as they should.
And those are why Preds overpaid Josi. We don’t need to do it with Petro.But neither of those things have anything to do with Pietrangelo and perceived value shouldn't matter. I hope everyone's right and he falls in line like a compliant trooper and takes $8.5M for the sake of the team. But he shouldn't, nor should he have to because of "perceived value". Newport is going to point to Josi's deal and tell Army to do better, as they should.
That would be mistake by Army. He is too smart for that.It could be a panel a HOF-players for all I care. There's an advantage to having the other guy sign first and if I'm Newport nothing matters other than "Josi is our comparable, and Petro > Josi. Tell us why we're wrong while we play highlights of Josi playing the role of playoff windmill". Again, I simply am not of the belief that the reasons that were cited as to why Josi will command more are all that relevant or material when it comes down to it. I think $9.1M is the proper play for Army getting a deal done.
It wasn’t LeBrun’s assumption. It was the sentiment of the GMs and agents he interviewed.Yeah - but frankly, that's a BS assumption if you ask me.
Petro is the better 2-way player and captained a Cup winner. Both guys have a pair of top-5 Norris finishes, but playoff Petro >>> playoff Josi. If I'm Petro's agent, I'm not accepting a nickel less than Josi.
I agree with this. So many people give points too much emphasis. The first job of a defenceman is to defend. Some defencemen try to emulate Bobby Orr's numbers, forgetting how great he was in his own zone. Many of them are not even average there.Pietrangelo is a better defender than Josi. Josi might put up better numbers, (which accounts for his Norris nominations), but I honestly think Pietrangelo is a better all around defenseman.