Value of: Pietrangelo to the Sabres

[Michoulicious]

7 y deal to 30 y old #1 RHD, what could go wrong?

 

[Not Sure]

The signing bonus issue is a non-issue with our ownership group, as evidenced by their willingness to take on that structure in acquiring ROR's contract.

As far as "front-loading" dollars, there is really only so much any team can do under the current CBA. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think the lowest amount for any one year has to be at least 50% of the highest amount per year in that same deal. So a contract that has a front-loaded annual amount of salary and bonus of $12M can't have a year any lower than $6M. There is only so much front-loading you're going to be able to do without significantly impacting the AAV and cap hit. If it takes $72M over 8 years for STL to keep him and they decide to do it, they will have no issue making a deal structured along the lines of 12-12-10-10-8-8-6-6 work. I'd be really surprised if any team went any higher than $14M in one year without drifting into Karlsson territory, and I suspect the Blues would be out of that market.

I thought it was 50% of the previous year, not highest year, but could be wrong on that it's been awhile since I looked it up. So you can go 20-10-5 for 35 million 3 year deal, again maybe I'm mistaken but I'd like to know how it works on back diving deals. I'm sure the next CBA will touch on the LTIR retirement plans for these type contracts. Hossa should have guaranteed that.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Meh, "contender" nothing. FAs choose money first every year. Cup winners don't tend to be full of $10 million UFA signings; part of building a contending roster is managing cap space.

Buffalo has already wasted enough cap space trying to buy their way out of poor scouting/drafting/development. And even if Ristolainen were traded for a forward, they atill have Montour, Jokiharju, and Miller on RD.

That said, if Botterill stays employed he could be stupid/desperate enough.

While I agree with what you said. Pie is a franchise D, debatably the best current D man in the league. Contenders galore will offer as much as dumpster fire clubs like Buffalo could and sort the cap out with another move. Hardly any club would turn down adding him. It’s not a Lucic, Ladd, etc as we’ve seen in recent years

 

[Kublakhan]

Fat chance i see Alex Pietrangelo leaving St a Louis for Buffalo. Last thing Buffalo needs is another $10+ million contract.

can he play center?

 

[Djp]

I thought it was 50% of the previous year, not highest year, but could be wrong on that it's been awhile since I looked it up. So you can go 20-10-5 for 35 million 3 year deal, again maybe I'm mistaken but I'd like to know how it works on back diving deals. I'm sure the next CBA will touch on the LTIR retirement plans for these type contracts. Hossa should have guaranteed that.

Year to year change max is 35%
Ratio of max year to min year is 2:1 or Lowest is 50% of highest

On an all increasing contract you don’t have to follow these rules.

 

[Not Sure]

Year to year change max is 35%
Ratio of max year to min year is 2:1 or Lowest is 50% of highest

On an all increasing contract you don’t have to follow these rules.

Good to know, thanks.

 

[Ranksu]

What is price of losing love for hockey and play in Buffalo? I think Ryan O'Reilly can help Pietro with that.

 

[BlueDream]

He’s not going to the Sabres.

 

[WeDislikeEich]

As a Sabres fan, I can’t imagine him actually wanting to sign here.

 

[Halla]

But he’s going to the Leafs....

no he isnt. its kinda a running joke that leafs fans think everyone is going there but with the cap space they have now it doesnt really happen anymore

stupid leafs fans. actually think Stamkos, Tavares, Pietrnagelo gonna sign there...oh wait

 

[Halla]

The sabres would have to come with an offer of 12-13x7 for him to even consider it.

 

[gotyournose]

He's staying in St Louis.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

But he’s going to the Leafs....

With what money? I dont know if u remember but they spent their money on Tavares/Matthews and Marner.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

He's staying in St Louis.

I feel like the Faulk signing almost made that impossible

 

[Eye Test]

Assuming Pietrangelo walks from the Blues, he would be an ideal RHD partner for Dahlin. I’m anticipating Risto finally gets traded for forward help. What is the speculated value of his new contract? Something in the $10.5 to 11 million for 6/7 years? Sabres will have approximately $35 million in cap space heading into the summer with a bunch of RFA’s and a couple of UFA’s to sign.

Why would he go to buffalo lol

 

[BStinson]

With what money? I dont know if u remember but they spent their money on Tavares/Matthews and Marner.

O boy that went right over your head.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

O boy that went right over your head.

over my head? I follow what ur saying. I saw the articles. and it's nothing but click bait. come on bro

 

[BStinson]

over my head? I follow what ur saying. I saw the articles. and it's nothing but click bait. come on bro

It’s sarcasm... or do we need to put emojis to make it more clear?

 

[gotyournose]

I feel like the Faulk signing almost made that impossible

Armstrong will keep him

 

[Arthur Morgan]

It’s sarcasm... or do we need to put emojis to make it more clear?

Umm when ur writing in text it's most likely a good idea..... Am I suppose to just assume what you were thinking?

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Armstrong will keep him

After the Faulk signing I dunno if theres enough room. only 7.5M available for St. Louis and Tarasenko is on the LTIR so I assume that cap isn't included on the books currently. where exactly will the cap come from to resign Pietrangelo?

 

[tsujimoto74]

I feel like the Faulk signing almost made that impossible

I wonder if STL went out and got/extended Faulk because they already knew Pietrangelo was planning on testing the UFA market. Because otherwise it seems pretty awful cap management to spend that kind of money on a player who will be your 3rd best RHD. It's weird to think about Pietro leaving St. Louis, but it's also weird that there's been no contract extension so far if he's staying, and I haven't even seen any news about negotiations. And the Faulk trade and sign starts making a lot more sense if that's Pietro's plan.

 

[BStinson]

Umm when ur writing in text it's most likely a good idea..... Am I suppose to just assume what you were thinking?

Generally on these boards the use of multiple periods indicates something. You don’t need to be a mind reader to get that.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

I wonder if STL went out and got/extended Faulk because they already knew Pietrangelo was planning on testing the UFA market. Because otherwise it seems pretty awful cap management to spend that kind of money on a player who will be your 3rd best RHD. It's weird to think about Pietro leaving St. Louis, but it's also weird that there's been no contract extension so far if he's staying, and I haven't even seen any news about negotiations. And the Faulk trade and sign starts making a lot more sense if that's Pietro's plan.

I didnt find the Faulk trade odd the signing I thought was very odd considering Pietrangelo is their guy. he must have told them he was planning on testing Free Agency. I wouldn`t have spoiled the chance to resign him for Faulk.

 

[SotasicA]

To leave as a free agent, he'd be 10+ IMO, but I also don't see him leaving for a team that isn't at least a contender.

Maybe the Sabres can be a contender with Pietrangelo.