Phoenix LXXIV: Be Seeing You

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Thread LXXIV: Where am I?
Thread II: In the Village.
Thread LXXIV: What do you want?
Thread II: Information.
Thread LXXIV: Whose side are you on?
Thread II: That would be telling. We want information… information… information.
Thread LXXIV: You won't get it.
Thread II: By hook or by crook, we will.
Thread LXXIV: Who are you?
Thread II: The new Thread II.
Thread LXXIV: Who is Thread I?
Thread II: You are Thread LXXIV.
Thread LXXIV: I am not a number! I am a free thread!
Thread II: [laughs]

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Keeping along the Prisoner tangent (sort of) ...

There's a man who leads a life of danger
To the Mayor and the League he stays a stranger
With every move he makes another chance he takes
Odds are he won't buy the team tomorrow

Secret owner man, secret owner man
They've given you a number and taken away your funds

Beware of Press Releases that you find
A Press Release can hide an evil mind
Ah, be careful what you say
Or you'll give subsidies away
Odds are he won't buy the team tomorrow

Secret owner man, secret owner man
They've given you a number and taken away your funds


And the first reported sighting of Darin Pastor ...

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Be seeing you ...



12-08-2008 Hockey in The Desert (Phoenix franchise and finance/business matters)
02-04-2009 Hockey in the Desert II (Phoenix Coyotes franchise and business matters)

05-05-2009 Balsillie puts in $212.5 mil offer for the Coyotes
05-07-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part II
05-18-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part III
05-22-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part IV
06-03-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix part V
06-09-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VI
06-12-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VII: I'm just waitin' on a judge
06-16-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part VIII: It's dead, Jim
06-24-2009 Balsillie/Phoenix Part IX: 'Dorf on Hockey
07-25-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part X: The Truth? You Can't Handle The Truth!
08-03-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XI: A Fistful of Dollars?
08-07-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XII: For a Few Dollars More
08-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIII: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
08-21-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XIV: The Wrath of Baum
08-27-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XV - SITREP: SNAFU
09-02-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVI: Barbarian at the Gate
09-08-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVII: Wake Me Up When September Ends
09-10-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy/ownership Part XVIII: Is that a pale horse in the distance?
09-12-2009 Phoenix bankruptcy Part XIX: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Baum
09-21-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XX: There Will Be Baum
09-28-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXI: 2009 -- A Sports Odyssey
10-26-2009 Phoenix Bankruptcy Part XXII: Long and winding road

11-24-2009 Keeping up with potential owners for NHL Phoenix Coyotes (UPD: Ice Edge signs LOI)
03-14-2010 Part II. Potential owners of NHL's Phoenix Coyotes
03-26-2010 Part III. Prospective Owners - Phoenix Coyotes (UPD Lease vote 4/13; IEH signs MOU)
04-10-2010 Part IV Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy; UPD COG approves Reinsdorf MOU, not IEH MOU
05-02-2010 Part V Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy UPD Reinsdorf out? IEH back in? else Winnipeg?
05-11-2010 Part VI Phoenix Coyotes post bankruptcy
05-23-2010 Part VII Phoenix Coyotes post bankrtuptcy
06-07-2010 Part VIII: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankrtuptcy
06-22-2010 Part IX: Phoenix Coyotes Post-bankruptcy UPD: Pres Moss fired 6/30 with IEH input
07-26-2010 Part X: Phoenix Coyotes - Between Scylla and Charybdis
08-27-2010 Part XI: Phoenix Coyotes -- Greetings, Starfighter, You have been selected ...
09-16-2010 Part XII: Phx Coyotes - Still haven't found what I'm looking for
10-12-2010 Part XIII: Phoenix Coyotes - The Final Cut?
10-27-2010 Part XIV: Phoenix Coyotes - To Infinity And Beyond....
12-05-2010 Part XV: Phoenix - the battle of evermore
12-14-2010 Part XVI: Phoenix -- Money for Nothing
12-20-2010 Part XVII: Phoenix -- Thread Title Available For Lease
01-09-2011 Part XVIII: Phoenix -- Imminence Front
01-24-2011 Phoenix XIXth: Nervous Breakdown
02-02-2011 Phoenix XX: Two weeks
02-11-2011 Phoenix XXI: When will then be now?
02-22-2011 Phoenix XXII: It's Now or Never
02-28-2011 Phoenix XXIII - Bond: The Phoenix Project
03-03-2011 Phoenix XXIV: How many twists does the scriptwriter have left?
03-07-2011 Phoenix XXV: Anyone in the theatre seen a pale horse?
03-08-2011 Phoenix XXVI: Pain in the AZ
03-11-2011 Phoenix XXVII: Can we all get along?
03-16-2011 Phoenix XXVIII: Lawyers, Bonds and Money
03-20-2011 Phoenix XXIX: What's the next act? I'm tired of the dog & pony show
03-22-2011 Phoenix Part XXX Hulz, you gotta get a gimmick if you want to get ahead
03-27-2011 Phoenix Part XXXI: I feel I'm in a time loop
04-05-2011 Phoenix Part XXXII: Bridge over Troubled Goldwater
04-14-2011 Phoenix XXXIII: Sound of Silence
04-20-2011 Phoenix XXXIV: Project Mayhem
04-25-2011 Phoenix XXXV: Several Species of Small Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave...
05-03-2011 Phoenix XXXVI - There's got to be a morning after
05-10-2011 Phoenix XXXVII - The Heat is On

Followed by the Interregnum between Kings Phoenix the XXXVII-th and Phoenix the XXXVIII-th:

[PYTHON]
The most interesting thing about King Charles, the first
Is that he was 5 foot 6 inches tall at the start of his reign
But only 4 foot 8 inches tall at the end of it because of
Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England Puritan
Born in 1599 and died in 1658 September
[/PYTHON]

06-09-2011 ESPN's Burnside: Hulsizer submitted new deal; COG city manager dragging it out
06-20-2011 Coyotes related: Westgate faces foreclosure
06-21-2011 Phoenix, worst case scenario

Finally, the realm was restored ...

06-27-2011 Phoenix XXXVIII: Hulsizer Pulls Bid For Coyotes
08-16-2011 Phoenix XXXIX: You Never Give Me Your Money
10-18-2011 Phoenix XL: Rich Man's World
12-07-2011 Phoenix XLI: Bongo Fury
01-06-2012 Phoenix XLII: The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe and Everything
02-02-2012 Phoenix XLIII: How to Bake Cupcakes in Less Than Two Weeks
02-28-2012 Phoenix XLIV: Ignorance & Apathy (or I Doan't know & I Doan't Care)
03-28-2012 Phoenix XLV: You can't YANDLE the truth!
04-11-2012 Phoenix XLVI: (Tre)living on a prayer
04-21-2012 Phoenix XLVII: More Threads than Superbowls
05-01-2012 Phoenix XLVIII: Of Mice and Lieberman
05-08-2012 Phoenix XLIX: Smoke & Mirrors
05-21-2012 Phoenix L: AllByDesign?
05-30-2012 Phoenix LI: es, Damn Lies, and Arena Management Fees
06-06-2012 Phoenix LII: Goodnight, Sweet Lieberman
06-08-2012 Phoenix LIII: How the GWInch Stole Phoenix
06-12-2012 Phoenix LIV:E and Let Die
06-19-2012 Phoenix LV: is Has Left the Building
06-26-2012 Phoenix LVI: s is Still Dead (or Maybe Working at a 7-11 in Glendale)
07-04-2012 Phoenix LVII (or MDCCLXXVI): Declarations of (In)Dependence
07-13-2012 Phoenix LVIII; Will jobbing get jobbed?
07-30-2012 Phoenix LIX: The JIG is up?
08-18-2012 Phoenix LX: Pinocchio's Furniture
09-07-2012 Phoenix LXI; We agreed to pay HOW MUCH‽
09-26-2012 Phoenix LXII: Abandon Hope all Ye Who Enter Here
10-16-2012 Phoenix LXIII: Have Become, Comfortably Numb;
11-06-2012 Phoenix LXIV: Will You Still Need Me, Will You Still Read Me, on Thread LXIV?
11-21-2012 Phoenx LXV: The word is... give me a minute.... "Omnishambles"... "Omnishambles"
11-27-2012 Phoenix LXVI: Get Your Kicks On Thread LXVI
12-18-2012 Phoenix LXVII: Route66 - Aftermath
01-15-2013 Phoenix LXVIII - "Watch out for that Tree"
01-25-2013 Phoenix LXIX: Thread of LXIX
01-30-2013 Phoenix LXX: Should they stay or should they go now?
02-01-2013 Phoenix LXXI: Daydream Belever
02-12-2013 Phoenix LXXII: Send in the Clowns
03-14-2013 Phoenix LXXIII: "This Space Available"
04-04-2013 Phoenix LXXIV: Be Seeing You

A couple whole bunch of Phoenix uThreads have popped up in the wake of the "To close, or not to close" mega-thread discussion:

03-16-2012 COG to spend more on Coyotes than public safety?
03-22-2012 Dreger (3/22): NHL to investigate "plan b" for Phoenix
03-23-2012 Sunnicks strikes again "will they stay or will they go now?"
03-28-2012 G&M: Architects of Glendale pro sports disaster won't be around for fallout
03-30-2012 Shoalts: Ice Edge talking about bringing (minor) hockey to the Job should Yotes leave
04-04-2012 Shoalts: Glendale Mayor Scruggs wants city's $$ back
04-05-2012 Coyotes CEO 'confident' team is staying in Glendale
04-05-2012 Puck Daddy: Coyotes battline relocation worries with public optimism
04-06-2012 A strong PHX team in the playoffs may bring a new owner.
04-10-2012 Father of PHX AGM Brad Treliving involved in keeping Coyotes in Glendale?
04-10-2012 PKP offer for Coyotes may be 230 million (mod: to QC w/relo $$)
04-10-2012 Beasley: Coyotes deal within a month
04-11-2012 Glendale, NHL trying to close Phoenix Coyotes deal with Jamison group
04-11-2012 Bettman: no timeline on Phoenix situation (AP)
04-13-2012 Adding up the Numbers in the Phoenix Jamison Bid
04-16-2012 COG's Lieberman calls for demonstration against Coyote deal
04-17-2012 COG - budget payment to Jamison group not to exceed $20m?
04-17-2012 GWI ready to scrutinize new deal
04-18-2012 Coyotes sale soon, five things to watch
04-21-2012 Jamison looking for more investors on Coyotes bid, could be 1-2 months away from deal
04-21-2012 Greg Jamison finally goes public with potential purchase of the Coyotes
04-24-2012 Glendale Busts its Budget; Pledges More Money for Yotes
04-27-2012 Coyotes working to convert bandwagon fans to full time fans
04-28-2-12 4/28: Coyote sale deal getting closer
04-30-2012 Phoenix Coyotes sale finalized May 8th? Hulsizer back in?
05-03-2012 Phoenix CEO/Pres Nealy - something could happen next week
05-04-2012 Feschuk: Phoenix Coyotes doing just fine, thanks
05-04-2012 If the yotes make the finals
05-04-2012 Former Coyotes owner Jerry Moyes assails NHL over Coyotes’ operations
05-07-2012 NHL to announce tentative deal re: sale to Jamison
05-08-2012 Sportsnet: COG promising $306mm over next 21 years
05-08-2012 Wall Street Journal: 'Glendale's Public Hockey Project' = Loss
05-17-2012 Phoenix saga: 5/22 end date
05-17-2012 Jamison signing preliminary sales docs with NHL 5/17 or 5/18
05-21-2012 Goldwater Inst. ready to sue Glendale over arena management deal
05-23-2012 COG council approves preliminary budget with $17m payment for arena management
05-25-2012 Preliminary draft of lease agreement for Jobing.com in hands of COG board
06-04-2012 Phoenix lease details
06-05-2012 Bettmans plan may unravel in Phoenix (vote coming 6/8)
06-06-2012 The angst of Phoenix -- from three major league teams to one (that use city name)
06-06-2012 Forbes: Jamison having trouble raising funds
06-07-2012 GWI letter to Glendale Mayor and Coucilmembers
06-07-2012 Arizona Free Enterprise Club opposes COG deal
06-07-2012 Goldwater Institute Files for Restraining Order
06-11-2012 Coyote name change on hold?
06-13-2012 13 June, Goldwater files suit
06-14-2012 Halverstadt on NHL Home Ice talking Coyotes
06-14-2012 Coyotes deadline "now"? NHL schedule releasing soon
06-15-2012 PBJ: CoG says they'll withstand GWI legal challenge
06-15-2012 AFEC considering ballot (referendum) and COG concil recall
06-18-2012 Phoenix Coyotes, NHL looking for legal counsel to represent team, arena
06-19-2012 Coyotes deal not immediately effective - Referendum to follow?
06-26-2012 COG + GWI agreement on non-emergency status
06-28-2012 Jones/Cobb v Glendale (Coyotes Court Case)
07-04-2012 Coyotes PAC formed
07-04-2012 COG city council candidates voice opposition to Coyotes deal
07-05-2012 Shoalts 7/5 update on Coyotes situation
07-09-2012 Coyotes lease referendum petition not submitted by 7/9
07-11-2012 Glendale rejects group's attempt to overturn sales-tax increase
07-12-2012 PBJ: Jamison group has funding for purchase of Coyotes
07-16-2012 2 COG referendum proponents gearing up for legal battle
07-26-2012 Jones & Cobb decide to NOT file lawsuit after their lease referendum rejected
07-26-2012 PBJ: 7/27 deadline for Coyotes sale?
07-28-2012 PBJ: 7/28: Jamison short $20mm?
07-31-2012 Glendale arena proposal scheduled to expire 7/31, extended another 31 days
08-01-2012 Mayoral candidates speaking out on Coyotes prospective owner
08-08-2012 PBJ: 8/8 Jamison group apparently now has the funds to buy Coyotes
08-10-2012 SBN's Five for Howling: Coyotes sale a done deal
08-16-2012 COG mayoral candidate: Rework proposed lease due to lockout
08-18-2012 CBA uncertainty delaying Coyotes sale?
08-24-2012 8/24: Appeals Court Orders Glendale Sales-Tax Measure to be put Back on Ballot
08-27-2012 8/27 COG extends lease (with NHL) again (pending sale to Jamison group)
08-29-2012 COG seeking change to negotiated proposed arena deal with Jamison
09-04-2012 ESPN Burnside has source that says Jamison's got funding, arena deal to be done
09-11-2012 PBJ: O’odham tribe now involved in Jamison's deal to buy team?
09-29-2012 Final details on Coyotes lease to be settled 10/3?
10-07-2012 Final vote on reworked Jobing.com lease coming 10/23?
10-08-2012 Deja vu, redux = COG talk about extending agreement with NHL another 30 days
11-01-2012 Dater: Phoenix reason for lockout
11-07-2012 Impact of Glendale election on fate of Phoenix Coyotes future
11-26-2012 COG to vote on revised lease 11/27
11-30-2012 Referendum starts process (against) Glendale arena deal with Jamison
12-21-2012 Jamison officially signs Jobing.com lease agreement
12-26-2012 Coyotes could break even, or even profit, if there are no games
12-27-2012 Shoalts: Jamison using US Green Cards to lure investors in Coyotes
01-06-2013 Sportsnet: Jamison group about to finalize Coyotes purchase
01-30-2013 Burnside, LeBrun: Sale of Coyotes to Jamison in Question
01-31-2012 NHL no longer denying relocation a possibility for the Coyotes?
02-01-2013 USA Today's Allen: NHL must continue committment to Phoenix
02-02-2013 Phoenix - Glendale vs Scottsdale
02-08-2013 Grant Woods leading (new) ownership group to (try to) buy Coyotes
02-12-2013 Hulsizer back to looking at buying Coyotes?
03-28-2013 Report: NHL may soon consider relocation for Coyotes; Ice Edge back in picture?
03-29-2013 Bettman: Hey COG, expect something in about a week
04-07-2013 Bettman: Interest in Phoenix franchise "higher than ever"

And, hey, why not, for completeness:

03-05-2010 NHL sues Jerry Moyes
 
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cheswick

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This is so bizarre. Towards the end of the season a buyer emerges. Needs a little longer to finalize deal. City and/or league agrees to give them more time and it'll be finialized in a few months. Soemtime around the year end or early new year buyer officially pulls out. Towards seasons end a new buyer emerges...


This has gotta be the 3rd or 4th time now.
 

Ugmo

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This is so bizarre. Towards the end of the season a buyer emerges. Needs a little longer to finalize deal. City and/or league agrees to give them more time and it'll be finialized in a few months. Soemtime around the year end or early new year buyer officially pulls out. Towards seasons end a new buyer emerges...


This has gotta be the 3rd or 4th time now.

Different mayor and city council this time though...
 

NHLfan4life

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This is so bizarre. Towards the end of the season a buyer emerges. Needs a little longer to finalize deal. City and/or league agrees to give them more time and it'll be finialized in a few months. Soemtime around the year end or early new year buyer officially pulls out. Towards seasons end a new buyer emerges...


This has gotta be the 3rd or 4th time now.

How is this bizarre? Deja vu. OMG, I know some french!
 

Mightygoose

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Different mayor and city council this time though...

And one is less likley to fork out/pledge any $$$ this time around.

I think Mr. Pastor is just the place holder until the Yotes season is done and it's time to load the pistol toward CoG to 'renew'
 

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Can confirm this. RT @NBCSportsRoc Things moving quickly: Just told, Darin Pastor's team submitting paperwork to NHL today.


Honestly, who cares? It means nothing. It doesn't matter if Pastor submits an offer sheet or goes down to Bettman's office and plunks down a stack of Washingtons... the ONLY paper work that will matter is the one on which the city of Glendale agrees to mortgage their future on by subsidizing this team. Don't get excited until that starts to happen ( and fail ;) ) once again.
 

NHLfan4life

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And one is less likley to fork out/pledge any $$$ this time around.

I think Mr. Pastor is just the place holder until the Yotes season is done and it's time to load the pistol toward CoG to 'renew'

They would be willing to subsidize a deal, which again is not against the law in itself, but nothing close to what was on the previous deal. The CoG knows this will be part of any deal. That is part of the reason Beacon is around.
 

NHLfan4life

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Craig Morgan ‏@cmorgancbsfoxaz

Can confirm this. RT @NBCSportsRoc Things moving quickly: Just told, Darin Pastor's team submitting paperwork to NHL today.


Honestly, who cares? It means nothing. It doesn't matter if Pastor submits an offer sheet or goes down to Bettman's office and plunks down a stack of Washingtons... the ONLY paper work that will matter is the one on which the city of Glendale agrees to mortgage their future on by subsidizing this team. Don't get excited until that starts to happen ( and fail ;) ) once again.

I'm pretty sure most of us care, the only difference being which side of the fence one is on.

It is hard to take seriously considering previous attempts but it sure does make it interesting.
 

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They would be willing to subsidize a deal, which again is not against the law in itself, but nothing close to what was on the previous deal. The CoG knows this will be part of any deal. That is part of the reason Beacon is around.

Oops on my part! I was too general in the last post.

Correction below!

And one is less likley to fork out/pledge excessive $$$ this time around.
 

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Latest from Mr. Fellars - Ownership Situation will be resolved soon.

http://thehockeywriters.com/phoenix-coyotes-ownership-situation-will-be-resolved-soon/

The below looks all too familar

It seems clear that the NHL is now running the Coyotes sale with a sense of urgency. If that wasn’t the case, the floodgates wouldn’t have opened on the number of candidates bidding for the team.

He seems to think Gosbee is the lead horse

Currently, the Gosbee group is rumored to be working a fifteen year deal with no “out clause” for the Coyotes in Glendale, including an option to purchase the arena.

No mention on how much $$$ they want from CoG of course. Devil is always in the details.
 

Killion

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The new tomorrow isnt what it used to be
Yesterday keeps comin round, its just reality
Its the same old song with a different melody
 

MaskedSonja

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Latest from Mr. Fellars - Ownership Situation will be resolved soon.

http://thehockeywriters.com/phoenix-coyotes-ownership-situation-will-be-resolved-soon/

The below looks all too familar



He seems to think Gosbee is the lead horse



No mention on how much $$$ they want from CoG of course. Devil is always in the details.

Yes, the floodgates open up, and all these suitors are given a taste of it-until they A) see the books, and B) they realize that they aren't going to get a January-esqe enticement package IMO
 

Killion

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Great a Prisoner themed thread. All we need is one of those bouncy balls to appear whenever someone says "two weeks".....:naughty:

Called Rover's. Anti-escape orbs yes, but so too used to remove those displaying
anything in the way of anti-social behaviour not conducive to the collective...

Yes, the floodgates open up, and all these suitors are given a taste of it-until they A) see the books, and B) they realize that they aren't going to get a January-esqe enticement package IMO

Strange isnt it? Part 'A' the books, already been made into a movie, pretty easy to ascertain precisely where they sit in all of about an hours worth of work in doing ones due-dilly. Part 'B' pretty much the same. Weiers and various members of Council clearly signalling they wont be entertaining anything along the lines of the Jamison agreement. Just how this Pastor guy claim's to have done his due-diligence over the past 6mnths when as of Monday Weiers had never heard of the guy I have no idea. Gosbee/LeBlanc who the heck knows and if reports are true, apparently Jamisons still working on this thing. Strange strange days in Glendale. Just no idea what to make of it really. :dunno:
 

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O.K. do I have this right?

There are now 4 potential buyers for the Coyotes?

1. Gosbee and a clown (sounds like an early 80's sitcom)
2. Dan Pastorini. I mean Darin Pastor. Pastorini probably has a better chance of buying the team.;)

According to Cap'n Morgan

3. Hulsizer.:laugh:
4. Jamison. :laugh::laugh:

Quite the line-up.

I could see something getting done with Gosbee. 15 years at 10 million a year = $150 million. Assuming the COG would go for 10 milliion a year.

Things are getting interesting. I would speculate that there could be a deadline.:sarcasm:
 

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Brrrrreaking nnnnews... :laugh:

Coyotes ownership saga hits stretch run

"Here’s what we know. The group led by George Gosbee and Anthony LeBlanc has already submitted its purchase bid to the NHL, and Darin Pastor’s group submitted the paperwork for its proposal to the league on Friday. Greg Jamison’s group is still working on a proposal, but it is expected that they will submit it by the middle of next week, likely under pressure of an imposed NHL deadline. "

Source: http://www.foxsportsarizona.com/nhl/phoenix-coyotes/story/Coyotes-ownership-saga-hits-stretch-run?blockID=889001&feedID=3702

Be seeing you! ;)
 
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