Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc.

[Tripod]

Jay O'Brien at eliteprospects.com

Major red flags here folks.

Not as bad as the Ginning pick......the guy picked right after him has 20 points in 12 games in OHL.

Whifffffffff

 

[macleish1974]

Anyone notice who is tied for 1st in OHL scoring with rookie wingers?

 

[Appleyard]

Linus Högberg could hold his own in an NHL 3rd pairing role right now going off the evidence from the start of the SHL season.

Such a high defensive IQ and plays such a mature game. Never seems to be in a bad spot, puck always going the right way when he is on ice.

Has had a fantastic 1st period so far in todays game. Last three shift his team have got ~9 shots off with none against.

 

[Tripod]

Linus Högberg could hold his own in an NHL 3rd pairing role right now going off the evidence from the start of the SHL season.

Such a high defensive IQ and plays such a mature game. Never seems to be in a bad spot, puck always going the right way when he is on ice.

Has had a fantastic 1st period so far in todays game. Last three shift his team have got ~9 shots off with none against.

But wouldn't you say Lindblom could have held his own in the NHL too after his great SHL season?

And I am not being a dick. I am trying to see where the disconnect is. Like why wasn't Lindblom able to come in and produce at the NHL level right away, in your opinion.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Lindblom doesn’t have impact skills. He’s a smart player that can play off of other good players like Patrick and Voracek. I’m not trying to diminish his ability. He’s a solid player but I was always a little skeptical that he would step in to the NHL and not miss a beat.

 

[Rodu58]

Not worried about Hart, he'll come around. Lets see how is doing in say Feb

 

[Appleyard]

But wouldn't you say Lindblom could have held his own in the NHL too after his great SHL season?

And I am not being a dick. I am trying to see where the disconnect is. Like why wasn't Lindblom able to come in and produce at the NHL level right away, in your opinion.

He could have 100% from the start of the season I think last year in a bottom six role. Was good in pre-season, then AHL All-Star, then great to finish the NHL season without much puck-luck.


Now I am not saying I want Högberg in the NHL next season, I think he should go to the AHL first and get more offensive opportunities and get used to smaller ice... but he is already better than quite a few Dmen playing around the NHL right now.

 

[Appleyard]

Lindblom doesn’t have impact skills. He’s a smart player that can play off of other good players like Patrick and Voracek. I’m not trying to diminish his ability. He’s a solid player but I was always a little skeptical that he would step in to the NHL and not miss a beat.

Yep, that is fair for sure.

Like I said even during his crazy SHL season, I thought his realistic ceiling was a ~50 point complimentary winger.

And I mean, he did step in last year and by the stats be arguably the Flyers 2nd best defensive winger after Raffl, and had fantastic CF and ExGF with very little puck luck.

Career so far:

30 gp
53.67% Corsi
+5.61 CF Rel
56.57% ExGF
+11.54 ExGF Rel

 

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[deadhead]

Us adding a good goalie for 2-3 years won't impact Hart in any way at all. He has everything to be an elite goalie someday, but it won't be within those years.

The problem is finding a good goalie for 2-3 years, good goalies who are UFAs want a lot longer term, good goalies with 2-3 years left on their contract rarely become available in trades.

Now average goalies, sure, you can find them.

 

[deadhead]

Now I am not saying I want Högberg in the NHL next season, I think he should go to the AHL first and get more offensive opportunities and get used to smaller ice... but he is already better than quite a few Dmen playing around the NHL right now.

Question I'd have with Hogberg, as primarily a defensive defenseman (how does he compare to a young Kimmo, who really wasn't an offensive force until many years in the NHL?), is whether he's physically ready for the NHL. I'm sure he's a lot bigger than the 6'1 176 he's listed at, but I could see where a year in the AHL would buy him time to get stronger. Is he eligible to come over next year?

 

[Appleyard]

Question I'd have with Hogberg, as primarily a defensive defenseman (how does he compare to a young Kimmo, who really wasn't an offensive force until many years in the NHL?), is whether he's physically ready for the NHL. I'm sure he's a lot bigger than the 6'1 176 he's listed at, but I could see where a year in the AHL would buy him time to get stronger. Is he eligible to come over next year?

He is eligible to come over and if the Flyers want him too he 100% will.

He is probably just about 6'2 now and I would guess ~185lbs.

I mean, a year to get a bit bigger would not hurt, but his positional game is so good that it is rare he puts himself in a position to lose a physical battle.

And in comparison to Kimmo? He does not have the offensive chops Kimmo had at the same age. And Kimmo was over 0.5 PPG in his 2nd NHL season. He was a very good offensive Dman in Liiga at age 21. And probably should have been playing in the NHL at age ~21-22, but because he was small and it was the 90's was ignored.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Exhibition against Princeton. Ivy League doesn’t start regular seasons games later than everybody else.

 

[deadhead]

Is Ivy Hockey major league?

Just wondering, Football is Div 1-AA I think, basketball is competitive (as a Penn alumni I've seen it first hand) but only Penn and Princeton have a top 20 history, but hockey is a "small northern school" sport.

 

[deadhead]

He is eligible to come over and if the Flyers want him too he 100% will.

He is probably just about 6'2 now and I would guess ~185lbs.

I mean, a year to get a bit bigger would not hurt, but his positional game is so good that it is rare he puts himself in a position to lose a physical battle.

And in comparison to Kimmo? He does not have the offensive chops Kimmo had at the same age. And Kimmo was over 0.5 PPG in his 2nd NHL season. He was a very good offensive Dman in Liiga at age 21. And probably should have been playing in the NHL at age ~21-22, but because he was small and it was the 90's was ignored.

I was thinking more in terms of smarts and positioning.
Physically and skill wise I see Friedman as the closest to Kimmo we've had since he's gone.
Kimmo was short but had that stout frame that allows short guys to get leverage and play physical.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The Ivy League is in the ECAC for hockey which is division one. Penn & Columbia don’t have varsity hockey teams. Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, & Yale do.

The rest of the league has already started up but the Ivy League schools haven’t which I’d imagine probably has something to do with their academic schedule.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Exhibition against Princeton. Ivy League doesn’t start regular seasons games later than everybody else.

Here's a photo of the St. Ivanys celebrating the goal with a few close friends:

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Exhibition against Princeton. Ivy League doesn’t start regular seasons games later than everybody else.

So these games are basically scrimmages as Brown, Princeton, & Yale are playing each other today & there’s no official record being kept for them.

 

[runkle]

Jay O'Brien at eliteprospects.com

Major red flags here folks.

I think he was injured last night. Didn't play in the 3rd after taking a hit in the 2nd. He is not in the lineup to play tonight. I am hoping it is only short term. I have tickets to the BU / Providence game next weekend and hoped to see him and Farabee both play.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Hart not dressed tonight cause we have too mAny goalies, god bless the Flyers and their development.

 

[Tripod]

Hart not dressed tonight cause we have too mAny goalies, god bless the Flyers and their development.

6 goalies...none good enough to be a NHL starter this year or next.

 

[deadhead]

Who knows?
Goalies are weird, half emerge between 22-23, half between 26-29. Go figure.

 

[Curufinwe]

Lindblom doesn’t have impact skills. He’s a smart player that can play off of other good players like Patrick and Voracek. I’m not trying to diminish his ability. He’s a solid player but I was always a little skeptical that he would step in to the NHL and not miss a beat.

If he was a little bit faster or had a more dangerous shot it would put up him up another level, but for a 5th round pick, he's still a steal.

 

[Doodootheclown]