Phaneuf's hit on Olesz

Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by big_steve, Jan 3, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
View Users: View Users
  1. big_steve

    big_steve Registered User

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2003
    Messages:
    871
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Newfoundland
    Was Phaneuf's hit a Clean check?

    I think it was. What do u think? Too bad a young guy like Olesz gotta suffer a concussion like that.
     
  2. willie

    willie Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2002
    Messages:
    3,976
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Of course it was. There really is no debate.
     
  3. Tiki

    Tiki Registered User

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2002
    Messages:
    4,502
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Desk Job
    Location:
    Goo Lagoon
    Home Page:
    Yes, it was a clean check. Too bad about the injury, but in North America that is most likely not a call.
     
  4. monster_bertuzzi

    monster_bertuzzi registered user

    Joined:
    May 26, 2003
    Messages:
    32,734
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Vancouver
    Home Page:
    It was clean but i'm going to defend the ref because with the angle he had it must have looked like Phaneuf got the elbow up.
     
  5. L3DZ3P

    L3DZ3P Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2003
    Messages:
    565
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Trois-Rivières,Qc
    It was a clean hit,no doubt.
     
  6. PEli*

    PEli* Guest

    It was completely clean but as monster_bertuzzi said, the ref's view of it was a lot different than the one we saw numerous times on slow mo replay.

    Will Phaneuf now be suspended for the gold medal game? If you get a misconduct, you miss the next game, right?
     
  7. flamesfan01800

    flamesfan01800 Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2003
    Messages:
    403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Saskatoon, Sask
    Home Page:
    nope
     
  8. Epoch

    Epoch Registered User

    Joined:
    Jun 1, 2003
    Messages:
    16,298
    Likes Received:
    10
    Trophy Points:
    171
    Location:
    Ottawa, Ontario
    Home Page:
    Clean hit for sure.
     
  9. L3DZ3P

    L3DZ3P Registered User

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2003
    Messages:
    565
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Trois-Rivières,Qc
    No Bob Mackenzie said will play monday.
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2004
  10. leafaholix*

    leafaholix* Guest

    Yes, very clean.
     
  11. Lard_Lad

    Lard_Lad Registered User

    Joined:
    May 12, 2003
    Messages:
    6,678
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Kelowna
    Home Page:
    No question it was clean. His elbow didn't get anywhere near horizontal until he was spinning away after the impact.
     
  12. chicpea*

    chicpea* Guest

    Not only was the hit clean, but Phaneuf went out of his way to tuck his elbow in so Olesz wouldn't take it in the head. Still, Olesz did not look good.
     
  13. finzup77r

    finzup77r Registered User

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2003
    Messages:
    482
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Boston
    Home Page:
    I thought I heard after this injury that Olesz had suffered a concussion before the WJC's and that he played his first game of the year earlier in the tourney, is this true, cause that would be really bad for a kid supposed top go in the top 10 in the draft
     
  14. LaLaLaprise

    LaLaLaprise lalalaprise -twitter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    As Clean as Soap!

    Feel sorry for Olesz though. But that should teach him not to dangle accross the blue line.
     
  15. Snakeeye

    Snakeeye Guest

    No, the referee was european. Therefore, body contact is a minor, and body contact that results in an injury is a major and a game misconduct. "Elbowing" was just the excuse to make the call.
     
  16. ChemiseBleuHonnete

    ChemiseBleuHonnete Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2002
    Messages:
    9,674
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Olesz is doing fine and is going to play the next game.
     
  17. CeskyHokej

    CeskyHokej Registered User

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2003
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Home Page:
    Wow. That is often the case but this time you can't really blame the ref. He led with his elbow and tucked it in at the last minute. So if you are the ref watching a guy come in with an elbow and the guy ends up lying on the ice with bruises on his face, what do you expect him to call? Bad call yes, blaming on "European" refs-no.
     
  18. PEli*

    PEli* Guest

    That's awesome. I heard Miller and McGuire talking about that so I wasn't too sure.
     
  19. Snakeeye

    Snakeeye Guest

    You might have an argument for the original minor penalty. Even then I'm not sure I buy it.

    The referee clearly upgraded the penalty based only on the condition of the player, not the severity of the "infraction."

    I'm still going to blame the european referee for what the call ultimately was.
     
  20. Sanderson

    Sanderson Registered User

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2002
    Messages:
    5,714
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Student
    Location:
    Hamburg, Germany
    Home Page:
    If the Ref thinks it's Elbowing and Olesz get's hurt, than he has to give a Game misconduct, that's the way it works with IIHF rules. (at least in my experience)

    It has nothing to do with the referee being European. It's true that some referees here give penalties for hits that seem legal, but most of them don't. There are plenty of hard hits with injuries and no penalties.
     
  21. punchy1

    punchy1 Registered User

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2003
    Messages:
    2,444
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Kiwiville.
    NHL and the rest I would say yes. IIHF I would say not unfortunately.
     
  22. gerbilanium

    gerbilanium Registered User

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2003
    Messages:
    274
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Someone please find me a link to this hit!!! Please please I beg
     
  23. chicpea*

    chicpea* Guest

    you can't be serious?! If that were me, I'd still be lying on the ice.
     
  24. As the driven snow.
     
  25. LaLaLaprise

    LaLaLaprise lalalaprise -twitter

    Joined:
    Feb 28, 2002
    Messages:
    8,716
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Halifax, Nova Scotia
    Olesz has a concussion. He wont be playing anytime soon.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "358c248ada348a047a4b9bb27a146148"