NFL: PGT: Super Bowl 50

[Sports Enthusiast]

I can think of at least two instances in the last couple seasons against the Saints. One of them he got in somebody's face and taunted them after a touchdown, that ended in a brawl in the end zone that got all over Sportscenter. The second he ran halfway down the sideline in defiance of the official, stole the ball away from the ballboy then ran back to the end zone to give it to a kid.

Come on. You can't deny he is a showoff. dude, I watched Joe Horn play weekly for 6-7 years, and even Joe Horn thinks that Cam needs to take it down a notch (this is a joke, no need to start googling anything)

Atleast Joe Horn made cellphones and goal posts cool I guess lol

 

[Roboturner913]

couple years old, but insightful nonetheless

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...n-got-rough-treatment-from-others-at-pro-bowl

The intensity immediately caught my eye. Pro Bowls aren't known for rushing the passer or trying to get the quarterback down -- especially not the 2012 version -- but there was no denying that the AFC players went hard after Carolina quarterback Cam Newton late in last year's game.

The only sack of the game came against Newton, as did most of the pressure. All the other quarterbacks sat back, no intensity with the pass rush, and completed pass after pass. Players did the tap-and-stand moves on the line with the other five quarterbacks in the game.

Newton was rushed. Why?

Was there a reason for this? Was this like Michael Jordan's first NBA All-Star Game when guys like Isaiah Thomas froze him out? Newton, after all, was a big-time rookie fresh off a record-breaking season.

I mentioned that theory to Newton this summer.

"It is what it is," he said, barely looking up from the stool in front of his locker.

Curiosity got the best of me. So, after polling players who were there over the past several months, I now know why Newton had to deal with that type of heat -- including being slung down in the third quarter by Antonio Smith of the Texans after one pass and being sacked on a hard spin rush by Denver's Von Miller.

The reason: Newton dissed some of his brethren at the Pro Bowl.

According to several players in the game, some from both teams, Newton's standoffish, diva ways made him enemy No. 1 in the eyes of some of the players.

"He was a total ----hole," one AFC player said. "Who did he think he was? He acted like the big s---. Here he was at his first game and he acted like he was the star. Guys didn't like that."

The Pro Bowl is a laid-back game, one for relaxing, spending time with your peers and unwinding after a tough season. The resort where players are housed is for them and their families only to prevent fan interference.

So when Newton turned down one player's request for an autograph and a picture for his kids at a function, it angered the player.

"Who the hell did he think they were?" said one player. "The only people around are families. He knew that. Yet he big-timed the guy by saying 'now's not the time.'"

That player said Newton did the unthinkable and even dissed Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis.

"That's the godfather there," one player said. "Can you believe he did that?"

Said another player: "It didn't matter who it was, he didn't care about anybody but himself."

Lewis denied that he was dissed when asked through Ravens PR man Kevin Byrne, but other players confirmed that it happened. A handful of other league sources confirmed that Newton was aloof and isolated much of the week in Hawaii.

That's fine, but the perception of some of his peers is that he crossed the line between being shy and being a prima donna. That led to some of the defensive players on the AFC team going a lot harder when Newton came into the game.

The tape showed that. Not only did Smith throw him down and Miller sack him but others seemed to amp their intensity up when Newton was taking the snaps. Miller also threw him for a loss on a designed run for Newton. It appeared Richard Seymour and Geno Atkins also played harder and faster when he was in the game.

It wasn't a rookie thing either. When Cincinnati's Andy Dalton played the second half for the AFC, there was no elevation of the intensity for the NFC defensive line.

Some league personnel who have watched the tape noticed the same things I saw as it related to Newton.

Through a team spokesman, Newton declined to comment for this story.

"Look, it was his first Pro Bowl, so he should have come and acted humble," one AFC player said. "But he didn't. He acted like he was better than us."

"Cam's in his own world," one NFC player said. "He's a young guy and learning, but he better change. They started rushing him. We were like, 'what are they doing? This is the Pro Bowl.' They didn't attempt that with the other guys. They went after him. He better learn soon. You don't want to go out there and get hurt at the Pro Bowl."

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

If Newton injured the leg further (assuming it was already injured to begin with), he would have to be taken out no matter what to get painkillers and have it tapped up.

Something the Panthers didn't have time for.

Now, could Newton have explained this better? Sure, but don't compare Newton playing without structural support or painkillers to two guys who were.

And should he have gone after that ball? 100% yes, but oh well, he said why and will have to wait for his chance to redeem himself.

@Roboturner: re, getting the ball: come on, everyone knows what Newton does with the ball, he only does it every single time the team gets a touchdown, that is 100% the refs fault for being an obstinate stick in the mud.

The 1st example is taunting.

With 3 minutes left in the season I'm not sure that would have been that big a deal. Still a slight chance I guess but not a great one. He'd have the offseadon to recover.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

couple years old, but insightful nonetheless

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...n-got-rough-treatment-from-others-at-pro-bowl

The intensity immediately caught my eye. Pro Bowls aren't known for rushing the passer or trying to get the quarterback down -- especially not the 2012 version -- but there was no denying that the AFC players went hard after Carolina quarterback Cam Newton late in last year's game.

The only sack of the game came against Newton, as did most of the pressure. All the other quarterbacks sat back, no intensity with the pass rush, and completed pass after pass. Players did the tap-and-stand moves on the line with the other five quarterbacks in the game.

Newton was rushed. Why?

Was there a reason for this? Was this like Michael Jordan's first NBA All-Star Game when guys like Isaiah Thomas froze him out? Newton, after all, was a big-time rookie fresh off a record-breaking season.

I mentioned that theory to Newton this summer.

"It is what it is," he said, barely looking up from the stool in front of his locker.

Curiosity got the best of me. So, after polling players who were there over the past several months, I now know why Newton had to deal with that type of heat -- including being slung down in the third quarter by Antonio Smith of the Texans after one pass and being sacked on a hard spin rush by Denver's Von Miller.

The reason: Newton dissed some of his brethren at the Pro Bowl.

According to several players in the game, some from both teams, Newton's standoffish, diva ways made him enemy No. 1 in the eyes of some of the players.

"He was a total ----hole," one AFC player said. "Who did he think he was? He acted like the big s---. Here he was at his first game and he acted like he was the star. Guys didn't like that."

The Pro Bowl is a laid-back game, one for relaxing, spending time with your peers and unwinding after a tough season. The resort where players are housed is for them and their families only to prevent fan interference.

So when Newton turned down one player's request for an autograph and a picture for his kids at a function, it angered the player.

"Who the hell did he think they were?" said one player. "The only people around are families. He knew that. Yet he big-timed the guy by saying 'now's not the time.'"

That player said Newton did the unthinkable and even dissed Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis.

"That's the godfather there," one player said. "Can you believe he did that?"

Said another player: "It didn't matter who it was, he didn't care about anybody but himself."

Lewis denied that he was dissed when asked through Ravens PR man Kevin Byrne, but other players confirmed that it happened. A handful of other league sources confirmed that Newton was aloof and isolated much of the week in Hawaii.

That's fine, but the perception of some of his peers is that he crossed the line between being shy and being a prima donna. That led to some of the defensive players on the AFC team going a lot harder when Newton came into the game.

The tape showed that. Not only did Smith throw him down and Miller sack him but others seemed to amp their intensity up when Newton was taking the snaps. Miller also threw him for a loss on a designed run for Newton. It appeared Richard Seymour and Geno Atkins also played harder and faster when he was in the game.

It wasn't a rookie thing either. When Cincinnati's Andy Dalton played the second half for the AFC, there was no elevation of the intensity for the NFC defensive line.

Some league personnel who have watched the tape noticed the same things I saw as it related to Newton.

Through a team spokesman, Newton declined to comment for this story.

"Look, it was his first Pro Bowl, so he should have come and acted humble," one AFC player said. "But he didn't. He acted like he was better than us."

"Cam's in his own world," one NFC player said. "He's a young guy and learning, but he better change. They started rushing him. We were like, 'what are they doing? This is the Pro Bowl.' They didn't attempt that with the other guys. They went after him. He better learn soon. You don't want to go out there and get hurt at the Pro Bowl."

That confirms like everything. The pro bowl is supposed to be a good time. Nobody gives a ****. Its just an excuse to go to Hawaii. Can't even give an autograph. Its like he wants to be the guy but only on his terms. It really doesn't work that way.

Can't think of the last player who acted like that. I don't even think I'd say TO.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

It's funny how no one is talking about the Broncos winning the Super Bowl. It's all about Cam (giving footballs to kids and being a bad guy for it).

Because the game sucked. One of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

Cam gets away with it cause he's not 4 years old, lol. He's not even showing off, he's just doing what he always does. It's not like the ref penalized him for it or anything. He's giving the ball to a kid like always, I highly doubt he's doing it all for the cameras. I just find it very difficult to be rubbed the wrong way from Cam giving a football to a kid.

No. Cam gets away with it because he's Cam. The point he is making is if you're a star things don't apply to you. College is a fine example like James Winston. If it was someone else not as relevant on the team they'd probably kick him off the team and as fast as possible. Its the flaw of the world. Big time people get away with stuff because of who they are.

 

[Sports Enthusiast]

The scariest thing about that Denver defense is that (minus Demarcus Ware) they're fairly young and can be great for a good 5 years.

Don't forget that last season they drafted a top 5 prospect pass rusher because of weed and Roby the year before.

Talib should be in with the Ware list but that's true. However if they lose Miller there's a huge hole there.

 

[What the Faulk]

Weird, it's almost like I said basically this three days ago and everyone laughed it off.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/scott-says-blog/article58306038.html

“He was kind of standoffish a little bit, maybe I’d say a little immature,” said Gonzalez, a former standout NFL tight end for 17 years.

“As soon as the camera lights were on, he was ‘Aaaaay!’ and as soon as they were off, he was off in the corner,” Gonzalez said. “And I don’t think it was a bad thing. He was young. It was his first Pro Bowl. And I remember he came out and he had on these flashy boots and doing all this stuff that Cam does. ... I don’t think it was a case where he thought he was better than us, not talking to us. I think it was he was shy, maybe a little intimidated.”

Gonzalez emphasized he believes Newton has grown since that experience, that he believed Newton was unquestionably the NFL’s MVP this season and that a fondness for the spotlight could be a good thing.

But hey, let's keep up the character assassination based on unnamed players.

 

[hoss75]

Because the game sucked. One of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched.

I happened to think it was pretty great. A couple of screens, even an option, tough defense. Better than the pocket passing flag football games most of the NFL season is.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

Because the game sucked. One of the most boring Super Bowls I've ever watched.

Just because you can't appreciate a great defensive battle doesn't mean a game sucked.

Super Bowl 8 - Dolphins passed the ball, what? 5 or 6 times? Vikings didn't even show up.

Super Bowl 18 - Another rollover. Allen and the Raiders made the Redskins look like a 2-14 team.

Super Bowl 22 - 35 second quarter points given up by my Broncos.

Super Bowl 24 - 55-10 loss to the Niners. My Broncos sure did know how to get utterly and completely eviscerated in the big game.

Super Bowl 27 - Nine turnovers. 52-17.

Super Bowl 40 - Screw job against the Seahawks. Boring game.


Just off the top of my head at 6:45 am. Could throw a couple dozen more in there but in the end, it's arbitrary what will and won't appeal to people. Just have no idea how 50 can enter the conversation or be anywhere close to it when it had two defenses playing incredible football, plenty of big game-changing plays, two of the best defensive performances in SB history by Von and Ealy, solid reffing etc.

Maybe it's because my team was in it but I just don't see it. Haven't seen that sentiment on rival team message boards either.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

the game was rigged! National Fixed League! The league just wanted their golden boy to ride out into the sunset! Jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams!

Ruh roh, now you've gone and done it

The stuff people will convince themselves to believe always amazes me.

 

[tarheelhockey]

couple years old, but insightful nonetheless

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/...n-got-rough-treatment-from-others-at-pro-bowl

"I'm not saying Cam's a bad guy, and I'm not responding to this thread anymore."

Shows up the next day to post a years-old link about what a bad guy Cam is.

 

[Roboturner913]

Never said I wouldn't be responding to this thread anymore. Please don't put things in quotation marks if nobody actually said them. As a moderator you should understand that.

What I said was, I was done with the argument, and I am. I'm not arguing about anything, just posting a news article. If people want to read it and take something away from it they can. If not, that's cool too. I'm not arguing with you. If you want to perpetuate and continue making it personal you'll find I'm not interested in reciprocating.

 

[tarheelhockey]

So the "last word" was just the thing that came before the next word. OK.

Kind of like Cam Newton's not a bad guy, he's just a guy with a bad character. Not the same thing!

Just think it's funny, that's all

 

[Roboturner913]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article45163665.html

Tennesee Titans fan Rosemary Plorin of Nashville attended Sunday’s game against the Carolina Panthers with her fourth-grade daughter. On Monday, she sent us this note she wrote to Panthers’ quarterback Cam Newton:

Dear Mr. Newton,

Congratulations on your win in Nashville today. Our team played well, but yours played better. Kudos to the Panthers organization.

That game happened to be my nine year old daughter’s first live NFL experience. She was surprised to see so many Panthers’ fans sitting in our section of the stadium; that doesn’t happen much at fourth grade football games. And she was excited we were near the end zone, so we would be close to the “action,†particularly in the second half.

Because of where we sat, we had a close up view of your conduct in the fourth quarter. The chest puffs. The pelvic thrusts. The arrogant struts and the ‘in your face’ taunting of both the Titans’ players and fans. We saw it all.

I refuse to believe you don’t realize you are a role model. You are paid millions of dollars every week to play hard and be a leader. In the off season you’re expected to make appearances, support charities, and inspire young kids to pursue your sport and all sports. With everything the NFL has gone through in recent years, I’m confident they have advised that you are, by virtue of your position and career choice, a role model.

And because you are a role model, your behavior brought out like behavior in the stands. Some of the Panthers fans in our section began taunting the hometown fans. Many Titans fans booed you, a few offering instructive, but not necessarily family friendly, suggestions as to how you might change your behavior.

My daughter sensed the change immediately – and started asking questions. Won’t he get in trouble for doing that? Is he trying to make people mad? Do you think he knows he looks like a spoiled brat?

I didn’t have great answers for her, and honestly, in an effort to minimize your negative impact and what was otherwise a really fun day, I redirected her attention to the cheerleaders and mascot.

I could tell she was still thinking about it as we boarded a shuttle back to our car. “I guess he doesn’t have kids or a Mom at home watching the game,†she added.

I don’t know about your family life Mr. Newton, but I think I’m safe in saying thousands of kids watch you every week. You have amazing talent and an incredible platform to be a role model for them. Unfortunately, what you modeled for them today was egotism, arrogance and poor sportsmanship.

Is that what your coaches and mentors modeled for you, Mr. Newton?

 

[tarheelhockey]

From the same lady who wrote the letter quoted above.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article45483825.html

I had emailed Plorin earlier Wednesday and invited her to share any thoughts she had. She was initially hesitant to make things worse than they already were. This morning, she emailed this:

“I watched the video of Cam Newton responding to media questions about my letter to him earlier this week. I really appreciate his comments and his respect for my thoughts, and I was impressed with the sensitivity and graciousness with which he spoke. I am sorry I didn’t understand him better until this week. It is clear from his remarks that he recognizes his leadership role, both on and off the field, and that he truly cares about the kids watching him. I respect his comments just as much as he did mine, and I wish him nothing but continued success on the field and in life.”

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

All this talk about Lady Gaga's anthem being incredible has left me scratching my head. Some are even comparing it to Whitney Houston's version.

I thought it was horrible...

 

[Roboturner913]

All this talk about Lady Gaga's anthem being incredible has left me scratching my head. Some are even comparing it to Whitney Houston's version.

I thought it was horrible...

I thought she was amazing. Could've done without that last refrain but otherwise it was cool to me. Kind of amazing that she's been making such crap music all these years considering.

 

[GKJ]

Lip sync for days

 

[member 51464]

America the Beautiful needs to be the anthem, y'all.

I actually think her singing here is much better. But it could just be how raw and direct it seems. Singing starts at about 1:05

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

With 3 minutes left in the season I'm not sure that would have been that big a deal. Still a slight chance I guess but not a great one. He'd have the offseadon to recover.

I'm explaining Newton's thought process here.

Newton said: "I didn't want to get injured."

Which everyone here took as "selfish", and that's fine (though it says something if you're angry about that), but another way to interpret that is that Newton acted because he didn't want to get taken out of the game. Which would have 100% ruined his teams chances of winning.

Of course, if he had said that, the football world would have gone to DEFCON 5, both keys in the lock, turn on my signal, **** the Soviets.

So with that in mind...you think the MVP of the season getting taken out when his team had to march 80 yards to score on his back is "no big deal"?

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/opinion/article45163665.html



That game happened to be my nine year old daughter’s first live NFL experience. She was surprised to see so many Panthers’ fans sitting in our section of the stadium; that doesn’t happen much at fourth grade football games. And she was excited we were near the end zone, so we would be close to the “action,” particularly in the second half.

Because of where we sat, we had a close up view of your conduct in the fourth quarter. The chest puffs. The pelvic thrusts. The arrogant struts and the ‘in your face’ taunting of both the Titans’ players and fans. We saw it all.

I refuse to believe you don’t realize you are a role model. You are paid millions of dollars every week to play hard and be a leader. In the off season you’re expected to make appearances, support charities, and inspire young kids to pursue your sport and all sports. With everything the NFL has gone through in recent years, I’m confident they have advised that you are, by virtue of your position and career choice, a role model.

And because you are a role model, your behavior brought out like behavior in the stands. Some of the Panthers fans in our section began taunting the hometown fans. Many Titans fans booed you, a few offering instructive, but not necessarily family friendly, suggestions as to how you might change your behavior.

My daughter sensed the change immediately – and started asking questions. Won’t he get in trouble for doing that? Is he trying to make people mad? Do you think he knows he looks like a spoiled brat?

I didn’t have great answers for her, and honestly, in an effort to minimize your negative impact and what was otherwise a really fun day, I redirected her attention to the cheerleaders and mascot.

Lady, you are the sole reason why women make 13 or so less cents than men.

 

[bWo*]

I'm explaining Newton's thought process here.

Newton said: "I didn't want to get injured."

Which everyone here took as "selfish", and that's fine (though it says something if you're angry about that), but another way to interpret that is that Newton acted because he didn't want to get taken out of the game. Which would have 100% ruined his teams chances of winning.

Of course, if he had said that, the football world would have gone to DEFCON 5, both keys in the lock, turn on my signal, **** the Soviets.

So with that in mind...you think the MVP of the season getting taken out when his team had to march 80 yards to score on his back is "no big deal"?

DEFCON 5 means all is normal, DEFCON 1 is where **** starts popping off

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

DEFCON 5 means all is normal, DEFCON 1 is where **** starts popping off

I really wish I could write this off as a well informed meta joke (because the normal on the internet/ESPN is everyone complaining about something), but.....

 

[bWo*]

I really wish I could write this off as a well informed meta joke (because the normal on the internet/ESPN is everyone complaining about something), but.....

What?