NFL: PGT: Super Bowl 50

[lilphildub]

Looking at the video I understand what What the Faulk sees. Newton may have tried to pick it up and realized it was too late. It was just a dumb horrible play by newton but then cam refuted all of that in the interview...

So what the Faulk: Newton has no problem being honest and has no filter and tells it how it is. Why would he tell us he was scared to get hurt and give us an example of other qbs being scared too in those situations? I think that's clear and has nothing with him meaning one thing when saying another. It's not even close to your theory that he misread the play. He'd say in the interview 'by the time I realized I couldn't pick it up standing, it was too late and wouldn't be able to get the ball. Not worth risking injury'

I think you're reaching and you defending your theory by being a d**k to everyone reminds me of your very own hero: cam newton

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Looking at the video I understand what What the Faulk sees. Newton may have tried to pick it up and realized it was too late. It was just a dumb horrible play by newton but then cam refuted all of that in the interview...

So what the Faulk: Newton has no problem being honest and has no filter and tells it how it is. Why would he tell us he was scared to get hurt and give us an example of other qbs being scared too in those situations? I think that's clear and has nothing with him meaning one thing when saying another. It's not even close to your theory that he misread the play. He'd say in the interview 'by the time I realized I couldn't pick it up standing, it was too late and wouldn't be able to get the ball. Not worth risking injury'

I think you're reaching and you defending your theory by being a d**k to everyone reminds me of your very own hero: cam newton

Yep, I think that Newton said it best. This spin coming from the Panthers fanbase is amusing.

 

[Voight]

Actually, in junior college only one team wins the national championship. Cam won it.

In division 1, only one team wins the national championship. Cam won it.

Safe to say he knows what a championship is.

Weird, when his team won the BCS Game he was outplayed by the other teams QB.

 

[member 51464]

If only Cam had done the "look around like he is unsure where the ball went" thing that so often happens just after a fumble. Nobody would've given this all a second thought.

 

[tarheelhockey]

I can think of at least two instances in the last couple seasons against the Saints. One of them he got in somebody's face and taunted them after a touchdown, that ended in a brawl in the end zone that got all over Sportscenter.

You mean the one where two different Saints pushed him after he scored?

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"got in someone's face and taunted them"... OK. Newton didn't even get flagged, while Lofton got a personal foul for the shove. The Saints were frustrated from being down three scores in the first quarter, I get that, but their lack of discipline is their own fault, not Newton's.

The second he ran halfway down the sideline in defiance of the official, stole the ball away from the ballboy then ran back to the end zone to give it to a kid.

You are literally condemning him for making sure a child got to have a football.

 

[Dominator13]

The scariest thing about that Denver defense is that (minus Demarcus Ware) they're fairly young and can be great for a good 5 years.

Don't forget that last season they drafted a top 5 prospect pass rusher because of weed and Roby the year before.

 

[Roboturner913]

You mean the one where two different Saints pushed him after he scored?

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"got in someone's face and taunted them"... OK. Newton didn't even get flagged, while Lofton got a personal foul for the shove. The Saints were frustrated from being down three scores in the first quarter, I get that, but their lack of discipline is their own fault, not Newton's.

LOL, you are definitely seeing what you want to see. Here's a gif, tell me that's not taunting.

You are literally condemning him for making sure a child got to have a football.

Dude, he went to take the football. The ref CLEARLY signals like, "No, you're not going to do that." The ref gives the ball to the ballboy/girl who heads up the sideline. Cam then freaking SPRINTS after the ballperson, takes the ball back, then sprints back to the stands.

How is that NOT showboating? How do you NOT see this?

I am not saying he's a bad guy, I am saying whatever troubles he has, he has brought upon himself. It's not racism, it's not jealously, it's not people who can't deal with a running QB. People just do not like a showoff, plain and simple. This is not a new concept.

 

[Evincar]

Not sure how you can pull the injury card there though. Allen played with a broken foot. Davis with a broken arm or something like that. Those guys played injured. He was worried about getting injured? Just seems insulting. It definitely looked like a ball he could have gotten.

Exactly.

Even T.O. is a classless showboater and he went against his own doctors advice and played in the Superbowl on one leg.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

If Newton injured the leg further (assuming it was already injured to begin with), he would have to be taken out no matter what to get painkillers and have it tapped up.

Something the Panthers didn't have time for.

Now, could Newton have explained this better? Sure, but don't compare Newton playing without structural support or painkillers to two guys who were.

And should he have gone after that ball? 100% yes, but oh well, he said why and will have to wait for his chance to redeem himself.

@Roboturner: re, getting the ball: come on, everyone knows what Newton does with the ball, he only does it every single time the team gets a touchdown, that is 100% the refs fault for being an obstinate stick in the mud.

The 1st example is taunting.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

The scariest thing about that Denver defense is that (minus Demarcus Ware) they're fairly young and can be great for a good 5 years.

Don't forget that last season they drafted a top 5 prospect pass rusher because of weed and Roby the year before.

The depth in nearly every position is ridiculous... if we can re-sign some UFA's and RFA's this off season. Bruton and Bolden are more than serviceable and getting better all the time, Roby is developing into a premiere CB. You mentioned Shane Ray; McCray and Shaq Barrett as well.

Hopefully Elway can keep Trevathan and the only major departure is Malik.

 

[Virtanen18]

Dude, he went to take the football. The ref CLEARLY signals like, "No, you're not going to do that." The ref gives the ball to the ballboy/girl who heads up the sideline. Cam then freaking SPRINTS after the ballperson, takes the ball back, then sprints back to the stands.

How is that NOT showboating? How do you NOT see this?

At the end of the day, a kid got a ball from Cam Newton. Probably made the kid's life. The fact you're using this against Cam is just strange. He literally always does this after TDs, it's not like it's something new.

 

[Roboturner913]

At the end of the day, a kid got a ball from Cam Newton. Probably made the kid's life. The fact you're using this against Cam is just strange. He literally always does this after TDs, it's not like it's something new.

Has nothing to do with the kid, or the act of giving the ball to the kid. It has to do with the fact the ref directly said to him "No, you're not doing that" and Cam willfully and purposefully did it anyway.

When my 4-year-old purposefully disobeys/disrepects an authority figure in that fashion, he has to sit in the corner and have a timeout. Cam gets away with it because he's Cam, and that's fine. Just don't be surprised when his showing off rubs people the wrong way. He's far from the first athlete to elicit that reaction from people.

 

[Virtanen18]

Has nothing to do with the kid, or the act of giving the ball to the kid. It has to do with the fact the ref directly said to him "No, you're not doing that" and Cam willfully and purposefully did it anyway.

When my 4-year-old purposefully disobeys/disrepects an authority figure in that fashion, he has to sit in the corner and have a timeout. Cam gets away with it because he's Cam, and that's fine. Just don't be surprised when his showing off rubs people the wrong way. He's far from the first athlete to elicit that reaction from people.

Cam gets away with it cause he's not 4 years old, lol. He's not even showing off, he's just doing what he always does. It's not like the ref penalized him for it or anything. He's giving the ball to a kid like always, I highly doubt he's doing it all for the cameras. I just find it very difficult to be rubbed the wrong way from Cam giving a football to a kid.

 

[Roboturner913]

you're missing the point, but whatever, it doesn't make any difference.

 

[LeafsNation75]

Not sure if anyone else saw this. The Broncos Super Bowl champions hat that Peyton was wearing after the game had the words champions spelled upside down. I got to wonder how many people bought it like that?

 

[Voight]

not sure if anyone else saw this. The broncos super bowl champions hat that peyton was wearing after the game had the words champions spelled upside down. I got to wonder how many people bought it like that?

 

[tarheelhockey]

LOL, you are definitely seeing what you want to see. Here's a gif, tell me that's not taunting.

Way to use a gif that cuts out the part where Jordan shoved Newton after the TD to start the whole fracas. Fortunately anybody can watch that video clip at 0:40 and clearly see what you're not showing us.

OF COURSE Jordan's going to get taunted if he shoves a QB in frustration after said QB went over him for a touchdown. This is no different than when the Titans player went and tried to start a fight with Newton while he was celebrating, so Newton just stepped back and kept celebrating while staring him down. There's a reason the defending players get flags on those plays, and Newton doesn't. It's not Newton's fault that some people feel the need to start a fight with the guy who's beating them.

Talk about seeing what you want to see.

Dude, he went to take the football. The ref CLEARLY signals like, "No, you're not going to do that." The ref gives the ball to the ballboy/girl who heads up the sideline. Cam then freaking SPRINTS after the ballperson, takes the ball back, then sprints back to the stands.

How is that NOT showboating? How do you NOT see this?

How is giving a kid a football "showboating"?

The ref made a point to deny Newton the opportunity to give the ball away. Newton didn't take that for an answer, and fixed the situation on the spot. Kid got ball, ref can **** off.

How do you NOT see that as taking care of your fans?

 

[Roboturner913]

He was already in his face celebrating at the :40 mark of that video. Talk about seeing what YOU want to see.

I'm done with this argument, you people are being ridiculous homers. I don't even dislike Newton as a player, but if you can't see what a showboat and poor sport he is then you are totally freaking blind. I get that you are enthusiastic for your team and whatever but when EVERYBODY else sees what you don't, maybe you need to step back and question your own perspectives for a minute.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Hey, I'm not defending the fumble thing anymore. I'm taking him on his word for why he didn't dive at it.

But it's ****ing ridiculous to say he's a bad guy because he reacts to being shoved and goes out of his way to give footballs to little kids.

Also:

He was already in his face celebrating at the :40 mark of that video.

No he wasn't, he was getting out of the pile of players and trying to get to the back of the end zone when Jordan shoved him. It's plain to see on the replay, he wasn't doing anything with his hands other than adjusting his mask.

 

[Roboturner913]

But it's ****ing ridiculous to say he's a bad guy because he reacts to being shoved and goes out of his way to give footballs to little kids.

see post #157 above, or if you're lazy:

I'm not saying he's a bad guy

ref can **** off.

I see Cam's poor sportsmanship is rubbing off on you. Can't believe you would actually defend a player openly defying an official on the field of play. That's incredibly embarrassing on your part. When Jimmy Graham kept doing his post-TD goalpost dunk celebration even though he was specifically told not to, I ripped him to shreds for being selfish, unsportsmanlike, disrespectful of his coaches and hurting his team. You can find that post in a search if you wish.

No he wasn't, he was getting out of the pile of players and trying to get to the back of the end zone when Jordan shoved him. It's plain to see on the replay, he wasn't doing anything with his hands other than adjusting his mask.

yeah, uh-huh, whatever you want to see I guess.

I really need to be done with this now, so have the last word if you need it, whatever. It's not like you're ever going to see things differently.

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

One of the best parts of winning the Super Bowl is watching NFL Network in the weeks afterwards. Watched all the game replays yesterday, the sound FX's... Malik trolling Cam lol. Don't know what he said to him but it was a lot of bleeps and Cam wasn't happy 'bout it.

Peyton before Von's first strip sack, "Get his ass!"...

Luke Kuechly, "Damn, these guys are really good" ....

 

[tarheelhockey]

see post #157 above, or if you're lazy:

OK, he's not a bad guy, just a guy with bad character qualities. However you want to put it.

I see Cam's poor sportsmanship is rubbing off on you. Can't believe you would actually defend a player openly defying an official on the field of play. That's incredibly embarrassing on your part.

The ref was in the wrong for refusing to let him have the ball. It's that simple. It's not a parent against a 4-year-old, it's two grown men in the context of professional entertainment.

Newton got no penalty flag, no fine, no comment from the league for running back and getting the ball. The league was fine with it. As a fan, you should be fine with it. The ref's role on the field is to make sure the game is played fairly, not to enforce iron-fisted control over souvenir handouts.

Likewise, if an NHL ref openly refused to let a player have the puck after he scored, you're damn right I'd be supportive of that player retrieving the puck after the next play. Especially if his purpose was to give that puck to a child in the stands. Because that simple act of kindness can make a huge difference in someone's life.

When Jimmy Graham kept doing his post-TD goalpost dunk celebration even though he was specifically told not to, I ripped him to shreds for being selfish, unsportsmanlike, disrespectful of his coaches and hurting his team. You can find that post in a search if you wish.

And if the NFL tells Newton to stop doing something, I'll hold him to the same standard if he continues.

The difference is that the NFL is perfectly fine with Newton giving away game balls. The ref's decision was not consistent with the NFL's policy.

yeah, uh-huh, whatever you want to see I guess.

The facts may be inconvenient, but they're still facts. Porter gave into frustration and shoved Newton, so Newton turned and taunted him. Then he turned around and Lofton shoved him again, in the back. Even once the fight escalated, Newton never shoved back, never threw a punch, and he was probably the first guy back to his sideline.

But sure, blame Newton for the Saints losing their heads. Makes sense.

 

[Virtanen18]

It's funny how no one is talking about the Broncos winning the Super Bowl. It's all about Cam (giving footballs to kids and being a bad guy for it).

 

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

It's funny how no one is talking about the Broncos winning the Super Bowl. It's all about Cam (giving footballs to kids and being a bad guy for it).

HFBoards...

At least there isn't any talk about the game being rigged like there is on 4chan... er, Chiefs Planet...

 

[bWo*]

HFBoards...

At least there isn't any talk about the game being rigged like there is on 4chan... er, Chiefs Planet...

the game was rigged! National Fixed League! The league just wanted their golden boy to ride out into the sunset! Jet fuel doesnt melt steel beams!