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Golf: PGA TOUR full schedule for 2022-23 season (post #1)
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The golf ball will not travel as far.
Basically a response to the increased distance over years from technology and training, courses just couldn’t keep up. You can’t lengthen a lot of courses.
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Also, a huge distinction is it seems to be a *universal* rollback and not bifurcation (where pros and ams use different balls/equipment).
So it seems like the weekend golfer will also be impacted by this too. The titelist, callaway etc. balls you buy from Dicks or PGAT Superstore etc will be rolledback as well.
People are gonna start buying up previous years editions of balls before the switch. I probably will.
So it seems like the weekend golfer will also be impacted by this too. The titelist, callaway etc. balls you buy from Dicks or PGAT Superstore etc will be rolledback as well.
People are gonna start buying up previous years editions of balls before the switch. I probably will.
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PGA Tour wasn't supportive of Bifurcation and Local Rules where pro's would be forced to play a rolled-back ball.
Jay Monahan from earlier this year.
"Although there has been some level of support for limiting future increases, there is widespread and significant belief the proposed modified local rule is not warranted and is not in the best interest of the game.
Following a discussion on the topic at a recent PAC meeting, we have notified the USGA and R&A that while the PGA Tour is committed to collaborating with them -- and all industry partners -- to arrive at a solution that will best serve our players, our fans and the game at all levels, we are not able to support the MLR as proposed. "
What I don't get is how USGA and R&A is convincing or forcing manufacturers to do a universal rollback. Are they bound by rule/law, being paid money etc.
Jay Monahan from earlier this year.
"Although there has been some level of support for limiting future increases, there is widespread and significant belief the proposed modified local rule is not warranted and is not in the best interest of the game.
Following a discussion on the topic at a recent PAC meeting, we have notified the USGA and R&A that while the PGA Tour is committed to collaborating with them -- and all industry partners -- to arrive at a solution that will best serve our players, our fans and the game at all levels, we are not able to support the MLR as proposed. "
What I don't get is how USGA and R&A is convincing or forcing manufacturers to do a universal rollback. Are they bound by rule/law, being paid money etc.
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What I read the manufacturers agreed with the pros. Maybe don’t want to different production lines.
The Kingslayer
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Nah. The actual implementation and change of this is years down the road.
We’ll know the exact details and timeframe with the announcement later in week.
Say Hey Kid
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Scottie Scheffler builds a 3-shot lead in the Bahamas. Tiger Woods is happy with his recovery
Scottie Scheffler gets another chance to win the Hero World Challenge. Tiger Woods has to settle with being happy about the way he feels.
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I agree with Rory. I'd like to see Nicklaus era balls and clubs. If MLB went back to Hank Aaron era balls, bats, and 154 games it'd be awesome.
Say Hey Kid
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Scottie Scheffler puts PGA Tour on notice that he may have figured out his putting problem, cruising to 2023 Hero World Challenge title - Yahoo Sports
Scheffler's putter was hot all week. He didn't miss a putt inside five feet until the 71st hole.
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I agree with him too, and I say that as someone that isn’t a fan of him.
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What percent of golfers in the U.S. play in a USGA associated competition each year?
I.e. what do other golf ball manufacturers do when, say Vice Golf or Snell Golf, tell the USGA to f*** off and keep making golf balls that go just as far as now, are cheaper than the big brand golf balls, and can freely be used by the vast majority of golfers?
I.e. what do other golf ball manufacturers do when, say Vice Golf or Snell Golf, tell the USGA to f*** off and keep making golf balls that go just as far as now, are cheaper than the big brand golf balls, and can freely be used by the vast majority of golfers?
Say Hey Kid
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Collin Morikawa called out by Matt Fitzpatrick for rules violation, ends in 2-stroke penalty at Hero World Challenge
Morikawa had to add strokes to his round from Saturday at the Hero World Challenge after he and his caddie broke a rule.
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Fitz did the same thing to me.
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Not a fan of either, but Fitzpatrick coward out. Didn’t want to call it at the time. Didn’t tell his playing partner he was calling him on it. That’s child behavior.Collin Morikawa called out by Matt Fitzpatrick for rules violation, ends in 2-stroke penalty at Hero World Challenge
Morikawa had to add strokes to his round from Saturday at the Hero World Challenge after he and his caddie broke a rule.
Fitz did the same thing to me.
Then their balls wouldn't be allowed to be used in tournaments like US Open, US Am, British Open, Walker Cup, Senior Open etc. So they would be forced to make a decision at that point.
I don't think anyone on the PGA Tour plays those balls, I've never seen it. I'm not sure how many high level players playing in tournaments sanctioned by USGA and RnA would be either.
PGA Tour says they would not be complying with any local rule, i'm sure that will change. This is all years away too, like late 2020's...with many details to be sorted out.
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I'd love to see LIV Rahm and self-appointed PGA Commish Rory playing Ryder Cup together. @Filthy Dangles
Pavel Buchnevich
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I think the PGA Tour is starting to go back to what it was. The depth had watered down golf for so long. Too many players that can win on any given week. The last 15 years no one has been able to consistently year after year win like 5 times a year.
Obviously the majors are still going to define a lot, but we don't know if LIV players will be allowed in going forward and their schedule may make it more difficult for them.
I know people say this sucks, but I don't necessarily feel that way. It's merely different. More star power and dominance may be what we see and good for golf instead of the top 20 beat each other's brains in for 20 events a year, and split those events. Now we've subtracted like 8 of those, and maybe we'll enjoy the product more.
Just a thought.
Obviously the majors are still going to define a lot, but we don't know if LIV players will be allowed in going forward and their schedule may make it more difficult for them.
I know people say this sucks, but I don't necessarily feel that way. It's merely different. More star power and dominance may be what we see and good for golf instead of the top 20 beat each other's brains in for 20 events a year, and split those events. Now we've subtracted like 8 of those, and maybe we'll enjoy the product more.
Just a thought.
People are making a big deal of this on Twitter…in regards to PGA tour financially
See if it has any domino effect with other sponsors
Pavel Buchnevich
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Their pitch has to be different than asking their sponsors to help them compete financially with Saudi Arabia. No company is going to give them 500M.
They have to find a way to make it work knowing that they are at a financial disadvantage. They aren’t going to outspend a rich oil country.
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