Speculation: Petry rumors with detroit

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Seider will have a long learning process to become even a half-effective PK guy. +10 goals/60 on PK are abysmal numbers versus the league.

Those numbers were 6th worst at NHL, od all those 1st pair starting PK guys. And our power-play wasn't 6th worst, it was 18th, and Seider was the weakest link there, espcially with Walman. This can clearly be seen from statistics.

There was no improvement for his rookie season. It was even worse PK in general, but when the PK did get improve for 2022-23, it was still Seider as the weakest link. He has lot to learn. He is not a holy cow. It was same for Team Germany at WHC, and something he has to learn by time.

Maybe Holl is the good partner to mentor him. He comes from a stronger Leafs power-play with better numbers than any of our last season guys left.

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Holl and Brodie were the starting pair, meeting toughest assignments.

Holl is clear upgrade versus any of our guys, especially how Walman and Seider sucked statistically on the PK. Määttä got some easier assignments, think Chiarot-Holl could the 1st PK pair.

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Think our 1st PK will be much better, when adding some specialists there, like Fischer and Holl. Don't have to keep any better players there to block shots and getting arms broken and legs getting bruises.

All Seiders and Larkins should maximize their ice-time at ES and PP.

1st PK
Copp - Fischer
Chiarot - Holl

2nd PK
Ras - Compher
Määttä - Seider

5th forward
Larkin
(Veleno)

So far the looks pretty much like this. Veleno was the worst PK forward, but got 6th most PK IT of these guys we have.

There was a reason why Yzerman signed Justin Holl. He knows the weakness, and likes to improve our Defencemen at PK. Holl will improve it more than Fischer as a forward. Also full healthy Copp could make a difference, because on some stats, a year ago, he was shown as the best PK guy at NHL.

I think Seider can definitely improve on the PK but if he were truly "the weakest link" you'd think the coach wouldn't have played him more than any other Dman on the PK.

 

[RRhoads]

Seider will have a long learning process to become even a half-effective PK guy. +10 goals/60 on PK are abysmal numbers versus the league.

Those numbers were 6th worst at NHL, od all those 1st pair starting PK guys. And our power-play wasn't 6th worst, it was 18th, and Seider was the weakest link there, espcially with Walman. This can clearly be seen from statistics.

There was no improvement for his rookie season. It was even worse PK in general, but when the PK did get improve for 2022-23, it was still Seider as the weakest link. He has lot to learn. He is not a holy cow. It was same for Team Germany at WHC, and something he has to learn by time.

Maybe Holl is the good partner to mentor him. He comes from a stronger Leafs power-play with better numbers than any of our last season guys left.

View attachment 735869

Holl and Brodie were the starting pair, meeting toughest assignments.

Holl is clear upgrade versus any of our guys, especially how Walman and Seider sucked statistically on the PK. Määttä got some easier assignments, think Chiarot-Holl could the 1st PK pair.

View attachment 735873

Think our 1st PK will be much better, when adding some specialists there, like Fischer and Holl. Don't have to keep any better players there to block shots and getting arms broken and legs getting bruises.

All Seiders and Larkins should maximize their ice-time at ES and PP.

1st PK
Copp - Fischer
Chiarot - Holl

2nd PK
Ras - Compher
Määttä - Seider

5th forward
Larkin
(Veleno)

So far the looks pretty much like this. Veleno was the worst PK forward, but got 6th most PK IT of these guys we have.

There was a reason why Yzerman signed Justin Holl. He knows the weakness, and likes to improve our Defencemen at PK. Holl will improve it more than Fischer as a forward. Also full healthy Copp could make a difference, because on some stats, a year ago, he was shown as the best PK guy at NHL.

You are blinded by stats. You HAVE to take into consideration the matchups. There is a huge difference between going up against the top PP, vs PP2.

 

[Holden Caufield]

5 years of this…

 

[Henkka]

You HAVE to take into consideration the matchups. There is a huge difference between going up against the top PP, vs PP2.

Yeah..?

I did took that on account. I'm all the time talking about if you care to read my posts.

Main PK defensive zone starters go always against the TOP Power-play, because power-plays will start from a faceoff.

It's easy to see from stats. You better go more stat-heavy, if you don't know these easy things.

What's the problem in here?

Holl being at starting D-pair with Brodie at successful NHL PK.

Holl comes in to make our PK better, because he is better than ny of our PK D on the PK.

Everything will add on, Seider will get easier assignments and will learn and one day, when Holl is gone, Seider is the best PK def.

But it's a pure lie, that he would be best after his poor rookie and 2nd seasons. Biggest weakness in Seider is his PK play. And this did caught first on my eye with an eye-test. Then went and looked those poor stats. Oh, it's real.

 

[jaster]

If nothing else, the Seider vs Holl PK narrative will now be interesting to track.

 

[Snuggs]

Yeah..?

I did took that on account. I'm all the time talking about if you care to read my posts.

Main PK defensive zone starters go always against the TOP Power-play, because power-plays will start from a faceoff.

It's easy to see from stats. You better go more stat-heavy, if you don't know these easy things.

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What's the problem in here?

Holl being at starting D-pair with Brodie at successful NHL PK.

Holl comes in to make our PK better, because he is better than ny of our PK D on the PK.

Everything will add on, Seider will get easier assignments and will learn and one day, when Holl is gone, Seider is the best PK def.

But it's a pure lie, that he would be best after his poor rookie and 2nd seasons. Biggest weakness in Seider is his PK play. And this did caught first on my eye with an eye-test. Then went and looked those poor stats. Oh, it's real.

Hmmm totally glossing over team situation which has a cause an effect on players.

One guy gets to kill Power Plays with 2 and 3 goal leads. The other guy is killing them tied, or behind.

Though, I'm with you, Holl was brought in to sure up the PK. Idk if I'm gonna pimp as a shut-down guy though.

 

[Hammettf2b]

well shit, Yzerman did it