Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Wings: You ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?

[Lustaf]

7-0-3 in last 10 games

Yea, it's been fun to finally see them battling every night and actually building on something, despite coaching.

Problem is the Islanders have gone 8-2 in the same time so they haven't managed to gain any ground there.

Fingers crossed in these last 3.

First- How awesome of a player to be put out with and get assists on goals by Harry Z, Nasreddine, Megna, etc., etc.
Second- How the $#@! does Sid have more assists on Noah Welch goals than Marcus Pettersson goals?

Mark Eaton and John Leclair say hi too.

 

[Pancakes]

So who do you all think Sully goes with against Boston? Ned has gotten three out of four points in the past two games but he hasn't been very good. He might be wearing down a bit. Still, he and the team did find a way to continue to get points.

On the other hand, Jarry is a mental headcase at the best of times and especially in important games. If Sully gives him a game there's an entirely too real possibility that he pulls a Jars and shits the bed.

I think you gotta just ride it out with Ned and hope for the best. Hopefully Ned has just enough left in the tank to push over the line.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Flop master Igor? Not really worried about that guy. He only won those 4 games cause it was the Louie Domingue show and a busted Jarry for game 7. If DeSmith didn't get hurt in the first game, the Pens would have rolled the Rangers.

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Probably, but we owned a 3-1 series lead. Even with a shit goalie, there's no excuse not to bring 1 of those final 3 games home

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

So who do you all think Sully goes with against Boston? Ned has gotten three out of four points in the past two games but he hasn't been very good. He might be wearing down a bit. Still, he and the team did find a way to continue to get points.

On the other hand, Jarry is a mental headcase at the best of times and especially in important games. If Sully gives him a game there's an entirely too real possibility that he pulls a Jars and shits the bed.

I think you gotta just ride it out with Ned and hope for the best. Hopefully Ned has just enough left in the tank to push over the line.

Yea this is a situation where you absolutely have to ride Ned, regardless of the risks. If he falters early, I think you give him a quick hook and get him ready for the following game.

These are the shitty situations this team has put itself in due to dicking around for 65 games

 

[Khelandros]

Probably, but we owned a 3-1 series lead. Even with a shit goalie, there's no excuse not to bring 1 of those final 3 games home

I think you may have forgotten just how shit the goaltending was.

 

[The GM]

I think you may have forgotten just how shit the goaltending was. View attachment 850526

Agreed, when you are wishing CDS is available, you know your goaltending is bad

 

[Andy99]

So who do you all think Sully goes with against Boston? Ned has gotten three out of four points in the past two games but he hasn't been very good. He might be wearing down a bit. Still, he and the team did find a way to continue to get points.

On the other hand, Jarry is a mental headcase at the best of times and especially in important games. If Sully gives him a game there's an entirely too real possibility that he pulls a Jars and shits the bed.

I think you gotta just ride it out with Ned and hope for the best. Hopefully Ned has just enough left in the tank to push over the line.

Argument to keep Ned as the team is generally winning behind him but consider…
In the last couple games, Ned is 4GAA, 862 sv% and a -3.16 goals saved above expected….in the two games in Boston we played this year, Ned started both of them and he had 5GAA, .808 sv %…Idk man…

 

[BusinessGoose]

Start jarry on a short leash?

 

[Crosbyfan]

Start jarry on a short leash?

Yes. Announce him in the starting line up and pull him right after the anthem.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think you may have forgotten just how shit the goaltending was. View attachment 850526

That looks like a typical Jarry or Ned start.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Argument to keep Ned as the team is generally winning behind him but consider…
In the last couple games, Ned is 4GAA, 862 sv% and a -3.16 goals saved above expected….in the two games in Boston we played this year, Ned started both of them and he had 5GAA, .808 sv %…Idk man…

I think you give Ned a rest here as well. If you start him and he sucks, and then Jarrs gets Nashville and plays well, you're in more of a pickle on who to start for a huge NYI game.

If Jarrs has Boston, no matter how he plays, it's easy to justify going back to Ned for Nashville, and he should be fresh enough for the last two games.

 

[Rudy Russo]

I think you may have forgotten just how shit the goaltending was. View attachment 850526

Plus that jagoff Trouba taking questionable hits on Sid and Jake.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Plus that jagoff Trouba taking questionable hits on Sid and Jake.

Which is exactly what a team should do in the postseason.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

So who do you all think Sully goes with against Boston? Ned has gotten three out of four points in the past two games but he hasn't been very good. He might be wearing down a bit. Still, he and the team did find a way to continue to get points.

On the other hand, Jarry is a mental headcase at the best of times and especially in important games. If Sully gives him a game there's an entirely too real possibility that he pulls a Jars and shits the bed.

I think you gotta just ride it out with Ned and hope for the best. Hopefully Ned has just enough left in the tank to push over the line.

I'd go with Jarry for the following reasons:

1-We likely lose to Boston regardless, so sacrifice Jarry so that Ned gets a day off.
2-If Jarry *can* have one of his "good" games versus the Bruins and steal a couple of points, maybe that'll help his confidence.
3-Leaves Ned fresh for the more winnable games the rest of the way

 

[spcastlemagic]

I think you give Ned a rest here as well. If you start him and he sucks, and then Jarrs gets Nashville and plays well, you're in more of a pickle on who to start for a huge NYI game.

If Jarrs has Boston, no matter how he plays, it's easy to justify going back to Ned for Nashville, and he should be fresh enough for the last two games.

This is the take. Always a chance you get a Jars shutout, and Ned plays better with more rest historically.

 

[Andy99]

I think you give Ned a rest here as well. If you start him and he sucks, and then Jarrs gets Nashville and plays well, you're in more of a pickle on who to start for a huge NYI game.

If Jarrs has Boston, no matter how he plays, it's easy to justify going back to Ned for Nashville, and he should be fresh enough for the last two games.

Yeah but it was clear from practice today apparently that Ned is starting tomorrow, some of the sportswriters were saying…Jarry I guess was out on the ice awhile after practice…pretty clear Sullivan intends to ride Ned to playoffs or bust…hope it’s not a mistake…I think it’s more than about stopping goals…something happened during/after Dallas game where it now seems like players don’t want to be playing in front of Jarry and the coach know that, or something to that effect, or Sullivan and Jarry had a falling out…it’s weird

 

[Rudy Russo]

Which is exactly what a team should do in the postseason.

Too bad Ludvig is the only penguins d man with edge. The Rags have 6'4 220 lbs players like Miller and Trouba to play that way.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Yeah but it was clear from practice today apparently that Ned is starting tomorrow, some of the sportswriters were saying…Jarry I guess was out on the ice awhile after practice…pretty clear Sullivan intends to ride Ned to playoffs or bust…hope it’s not a mistake…I think it’s more than about stopping goals…something happened during/after Dallas game where it now seems like players don’t want to playin front of Jarry and have the coach know that, or something to that effect, or Sullivan and Jarry had a falling out…it’s weird

Maybe Sullivan is hoping that the penguins win against Boston and Nashville then clinch the wild card spot before the Islanders game? If so, Jarry would start against the Islanders.

 

[Khelandros]

Which is exactly what a team should do in the postseason.

Show me in either of these two videos the questionable hits the Penguins threw.

 

[Victor Z]

Too bad Ludvig is the only penguins d man with edge. The Rags have 6'4 220 lbs players like Miller and Trouba to play that way.

Ludvig in, POJ out. Win-win.

Shea-Ludvig-Petts isn't exactly an ideal left-side defense nor is Graves-Petts-Ludvig, but it's still an improvement either way. Especially in the playoffs, where being soft and clueless on D is hardly a prescription for success.

The goalies, even Jarry (!), would look lots better with some tougher D in front of them.

 

[Rudy Russo]

Ludvig in, POJ out. Win-win.

Shea-Ludvig-Petts isn't exactly an ideal left-side defense nor is Graves-Petts-Ludvig, but it's still an improvement either way. Especially in the playoffs, where being soft and clueless on D is hardly a prescription for success.

The goalies, even Jarry (!), would look lots better with some tougher D in front of them.

You know Sullivan. If the penguins are in the playoffs, so will be Graves and POJ.

 

[MrBrightside]

You know Sullivan. If the penguins are in the playoffs, so will be Graves and POJ.

I mean, you don't want John Ludvig playing in the playoffs if you can help it. He's not good.*

*-This post is not a defense of Mike Sullivan. He sucks.

 

[Rudy Russo]

I mean, you don't want John Ludvig playing in the playoffs if you can help it. He's not good.*

*-This post is not a defense of Mike Sullivan. He sucks.

I like Ludvig more than Graves. At least he hit, fights and is a lot cheaper. Graves = Ron Stackhouse.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Ludvig in, POJ out. Win-win.

Shea-Ludvig-Petts isn't exactly an ideal left-side defense nor is Graves-Petts-Ludvig, but it's still an improvement either way. Especially in the playoffs, where being soft and clueless on D is hardly a prescription for success.

The goalies, even Jarry (!), would look lots better with some tougher D in front of them.

POJ is better than Ludvig.

At 5-on-5, Ludvig has been on the ice for 12 Penguins goals and 24 opposition goals.

POJ has been on the ice for 30 and 34.

Ludvig is such a black hole offensively that the physical elements he brings are negated, and the puck ends up in the back of his net far too often for a one-dimensional defenseman.

And as bad as Graves has looked, he's been on the ice for 38 goals for and 37 against.

Ludvig isn't the answer.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

Probably, but we owned a 3-1 series lead. Even with a shit goalie, there's no excuse not to bring 1 of those final 3 games home

Here is the excuse:

The worst coach with a lead in the NHL. We had a late two goal lead in two of last three games. And it just keeps on happening...