Post-Game Talk: | Pens vs Oilers | blowout loss | Get it out of your system

[Darren McCord]

Everyone on the top should be gone.

 

[Icarium]

Sullisma: We have the ability to play a speed game. Most of the league is playing that way. It's hard to have success in this league playing slow.

Me: How about playing stupid, Mikey? Is it easy to win then?

 

[Flying Dego]

Everyone on the top should be gone.

Bro it's fine. We just gotta focus and play the right way. We like our team.

 

[The Old Master]

This team sucks so hard we got Tanger blaming the core….

he can only do that because he just scored 2 goals

 

[LOGiK]

Bro it's fine. We just gotta focus and play the right way. We like our team.

Never expected anyone in professional sports to be intellectually gifted...
But still.... even the dumbest jock head could figure out that playing 'THE RIGHT WAY' isn't even the solution. They play brain dead hockey with no life, no creative anything, just boring lifeless speed game (just without the speed (for the laffs)).
The right way, well m.s. 'right way' is the absolute wrong way.

 

[Zbynek]

Well, our roster is our roster, right? So, we have what we have. And we're trying to put the best combinations on the ice that we think give us the best chance to win. That's the criteria that I've always utilized with our coaching staff. We ask that question every day. We drill down into details, and we put the lineup on the ice that we think gives us the best chance to win. We've had numbers of different combinations out there. But at the end of the day, you know, we've got a group here that we believe in. We've got to find a way to get this thing going in the right direction.

 

[LOGiK]

he can only do that because he just scored 2 goals

but they ARE playing the way they are supposed to play (under sullied).
That's what they don't get.

 

[The Old Master]

sully has been repeating the bylsma, johnston, etc pattern of cancelling practices all year. haven't seen anyone point that out tbh. i just want to know if therrien ever did that, i don't think he did.

that's trying to keep sid from turning

Pens are going to pull a Steelers. Go on a late season meaningless win streak and still miss the playoffs.

your back to top form! welcome back

 

[Sidgeni Malkby]

I watched the game late, and started fast forwarding to it when I could see that we were going to get toasted. That was probaby at 1-1.

Here is my take...
NHL teams are a superstitious fragile bunch, when things are running on all cylinders things tend to keep going your way. Opposite holds true as well.

It's up to the GM to identify potential issues and weaknesses and improve the team before it becomes too late, and they get into a funk.

It's up to the Coach to send messages to underperformers (ie. bench them) to get them to compete. I can't remember the number of times Kap was benched last season because he wasn't living up to top 6 standards, while all the bottom-6 plugs keep getting a pass this year.

It's up to the Coach to implement a system that conducive to the lineup he has.

Right now...
Sleepy let it get there by not making moves when seeing clear signs that our top-6 was carrying the team, and our backup goaltending was suffering.

Sully let it get by not benching Carter/McGinn, and giving WBS talent a shot.

Sully let it get there by not creating a system that works for his team. I don't know why we can't play a hybrid system where our top 2 lines play a more puck moving aggressive game, while our bottom-6 play a more, for example, keep the puck out of our net and hit everything in site game.

Should do...
- Get rid of Sully! That would definitely breath life into the team!
- 2-3 trades, would also give some energy back into the team.

PS..
-Blowing it up is an option, but with 7 days left, not really viable.
-Getting rid of Hextall right now, not viable either. Likely something to do over the summer.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Pens are going to pull a Steelers. Go on a late season meaningless win streak and still miss the playoffs.

So the coaching staff and management live another season? Great lol

 

[LOGiK]

PS..
-Blowing it up is an option, but with 7 days left, not really viable.
-Getting rid of Hextall right now, not viable either. Likely something to do over the summer.

If you think the team is dreadful now... imagine them next season... a year older.

 

[HandshakeLine]

The thing is, Geno and Sid (for the most part) are aging just about as well as you could hope, they're PPG players in the downside of their careers but they're still making it work and largely with the supporting cast looking BAD (e.g. Jake and Rust). That gamble was fine.

Everything else is just f***ing terrible.

 

[Andy99]

Good article…too bad he doesn’t come out and advocate firing Sullivan…but he’s a wimp too

Mark Madden: Time for the Penguins to deal with reality, not long-shot fantasy

We can hold two truths to be self-evident in the wake of the Pittsburgh Penguins’ four-game losing streak that got extended Thursday at PPG Paints Arena via a 7-2 massacre by Edmonton: • The Penguins should be sellers between now and the March 3 NHL trade deadline. • They need

triblive.com

 

[ChaosAgent]

The thing is, Geno and Sid (for the most part) are aging just about as well as you could hope, they're PPG players in the downside of their careers but they're still making it work and largely with the supporting cast looking BAD (e.g. Jake and Rust). That gamble was fine.

Everything else is just f***ing terrible.

I mean sure, but when you main pieces are past their prime, your supporting cast needs to be exceptional. That also includes someone in the supporting cast who is at a level to supplant your main pieces.

At this point Geno and Sid are still assets and hopefully once we jettison Guentzel, they ask out so we can expedite our next good team.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

The thing is, Geno and Sid (for the most part) are aging just about as well as you could hope, they're PPG players in the downside of their careers but they're still making it work and largely with the supporting cast looking BAD (e.g. Jake and Rust). That gamble was fine.

Everything else is just f***ing terrible.

Agreed. And I don't want to go back to the rumors of JR wanting to move Letang, but unfortunately I think the old man was on to something.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I mean sure, but when you main pieces are past their prime, your supporting cast needs to be exceptional. That also includes someone in the supporting cast who is at a level to supplant your main pieces.

At this point Geno and Sid are still assets and hopefully once we jettison Guentzel, they ask out so we can expedite our next good team.

They're never asking out, they'll just retire I bet.

Which I'm okay with, honestly. Besides, I don't see Sid doing more than two more years, same with Geno. Letang is the one you have to get rid of.

 

[ChaosAgent]

They're never asking out, they'll just retire I bet.

Which I'm okay with, honestly. Besides, I don't see Sid doing more than two more years, same with Geno. Letang is the one you have to get rid of.

Hopefully we start leaking stuff about him killing the team in the media so he asks out.

Whatever. Let's grab assets, lower our expectations, and enjoy a sh1tty team.

 

[Gurglesons]

Hopefully we start leaking stuff about him killing the team in the media so he asks out.

Whatever. Let's grab assets, lower our expectations, and enjoy a sh1tty team.

I think the biggest issue of moving the core or even Rust or Rakell is they fully control where they are going to so the assets won’t bring back enough to justify being the GM that broke up Sid, Malkin and Letang.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I think the biggest issue of moving the core or even Rust or Rakell is they fully control where they are going to so the assets won’t bring back enough to justify being the GM that broke up Sid, Malkin and Letang.

None of those guys is getting traded unless they ask for it.

 

[Icarium]

Come to think of it, the Pens being 32nd in regulation wins in the last two months is even more pathetic when you consider that there are like half a dozen teams tanking quite openly this season and this is the healthiest Pens team in ages. Tanking teams riddled by gazillion injuries like the Habs manage to win more often lately, yet somehow this debacle is not our coach's fault at all, always somebody else's.

 

[vodeni]

Come to think of it, the Pens being 32nd in regulation wins in the last two months is even more pathetic when you consider that there are like half a dozen teams tanking quite openly this season and this is the healthiest Pens team in ages. Tanking teams riddled by gazillion injuries like the Habs manage to win more often lately, yet somehow this debacle is not our coach's fault at all, always somebody else's.

aging core, goaltending, did you notice that we are also 30th in goals for...that is against narrative too

 

[Pancakes]

Aside from Kapanen not being there (traded? waived?) it looks like Sullivan is still sticking with the same tired shit because of course he is

 

[Icarium]

Rutta is back, clearly this will make up for the complete and utter lack of any defensive strategy.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Do we really want Hextall selling assets?

Sell Hextal then

 

[Andy99]

Aside from Kapanen not being there (traded? waived?) it looks like Sullivan is still sticking with the same tired shit because of course he is

It would be funny if it wasn’t so pathetic lol