GDT: Pens vs Blue Jackets
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Empoleon8771
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Malkin PPG: 1.01 (83 point pace)
Crosby PPG: 1.09 (89 point pace)
That difference, while not that large, is not as small as you're trying to make it out to be. Crosby also rarely played with both Perron and Hornqvist, his most common linemates were Kunitz (shell of his former self is being too kind) and Horny. Crosby was also the shutdown center, like I said prior.
I don't even know why I'm arguing this, anyone who actually watched the games knows Malkin wasn't better than Crosby last year.
Ogrezilla
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Malkin also started 59% of his shifts in the o-zone to Crosby's 49%, and Crosby was against stronger competition.
I can name you at least 30 games where he was reasonably better.
You're forgetting that Sid has some terrible bad streaks last year (especially one).
I'm especially quite sure that from October to end of 2014, Geno was our best offensive player, even more so than what the stats were showing at that point.
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Ogrezilla
Nerf Herder
In regular season, his worst streaks were not close to the one bad streak Sid had at one point (which didn't mean Sid only had bad games in that streak of course).
In PO, he was really really bad though, no point denying that (actually even worse on the ice than in the scoreboard if it was possible!)
Ogrezilla
Nerf Herder
10 games to finish the regular season without a goal. And don't forget, Crosby did have Mumps.
Speaking Moistly
What a terrible image.
Eh, I think Neal hurt Malkin's game over the years, too. They had what I like to call the spiral of stupid where they'd feed off each other's bad ideas and I think we ultimately saw him defer to Neal's shot too much and get overly cute... even for this team. It's weird, you don't expect something like that to happen, idk if it's controversial. I thought his game was looking better, better rounded and composed, last season, but only for stretches, probably between injuries.
He's good for one or two standard hockey injuries every season, now. Nothing flukey to write off, so I wouldn't count on him cracking 70 games but as long as he's healthy in the playoffs it's fine. Like Letang he shouldn't be expected to play a full season, you just take it if they're there when it really matters. Neither of them managed to do that last season, while, naturally, Crosby did for the first time in years. Here's his GP over his NHL career.
2006-07 - 78
2007-08 - 82
2008-09 - 82
2009-10 - 67
2010-11 - 43
2011-12 - 75
2012-13 - 31*
2013-14 - 60
2014-15 - 69
*lockout shortened season in which his maximum played would have been 65 if he didn't miss another game
I'd do it, too. That's why I came up with it.
But you know, top 6 winger (ha) with leadership, a former 1st rounder who needs to get healthy and a 2nd round pick, it could be pretty fair depending on the going rate. Boedker is still the dream to round out the group Boedker, Hornqvist, Kessel, Perron and Plotnikov for depth because they'll all miss time. Realistically, Perron is gone for a defenseman, Bennett is gone for a former Pen and Boedker goes somewhere else for less than that.
A 2nd isn't like the firsts getting moved around like that, I get it but I still wish it had happened.
And Malkin obviously wasn't coming back from a long injury when he tried to finish the season....
and he didn't have Mumps as Sid but he had scrubs in his line for sure
Eh, I think Neal hurt Malkin's game over the years, too. They had what I like to call the spiral of stupid where they'd feed off each other's bad ideas and I think we ultimately saw him defer to Neal's shot too much and get overly cute... even for this team. It's weird, you don't expect something like that to happen, idk if it's controversial. I thought his game was looking better, better rounded and composed, last season, but only for stretches, probably between injuries.
He's good for one or two standard hockey injuries every season, now. Nothing flukey to write off, so I wouldn't count on him cracking 70 games but as long as he's healthy in the playoffs it's fine. Like Letang he shouldn't be expected to play a full season, you just take it if they're there when it really matters. Neither of them managed to do that last season, while, naturally, Crosby did for the first time in years. Here's his GP over his NHL career.
2006-07 - 78
2007-08 - 82
2008-09 - 82
2009-10 - 67
2010-11 - 43
2011-12 - 75
2012-13 - 31*
2013-14 - 60
2014-15 - 69
*lockout shortened season in which his maximum played would have been 65 if he didn't miss another game
I'd do it, too. That's why I came up with it.
But you know, top 6 winger (ha) with leadership, a former 1st rounder who needs to get healthy and a 2nd round pick, it could be pretty fair depending on the going rate. Boedker is still the dream to round out the group Boedker, Hornqvist, Kessel, Perron and Plotnikov for depth because they'll all miss time. Realistically, Perron is gone for a defenseman, Bennett is gone for a former Pen and Boedker goes somewhere else for less than that.
A 2nd isn't like the firsts getting moved around like that, I get it but I still wish it had happened.
I don't know enough about Boedker's game beyond the whole "he's fast as ****, and not a goober with the puck on his stick."
There's a rumor floating around that Toronto wants to trade JVR, and has mentioned Zajac from the Devils as a piece that could be coming back. I'm sure we could put something together better than that. JVR is to me what Boedker is to you.
Ogrezilla
Nerf Herder
I don't know enough about Boedker's game beyond the whole "he's fast as ****, and not a goober with the puck on his stick."
There's a rumor floating around that Toronto wants to trade JVR, and has mentioned Zajac from the Devils as a piece that could be coming back. I'm sure we could put something together better than that. JVR is to me what Boedker is to you.
I'd be thrilled with either. JVR would cost more assets, but he's also signed to a hell of a deal for two more years after this one and has proven more I'd say. Can we just have some fun and go for both?
TheSniper26
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I'd be thrilled with either. JVR would cost more assets, but he's also signed to a hell of a deal for two more years after this one and has proven more I'd say. Can we just have some fun and go for both?
I'm down.
JVR - Crosby - Kessel
Perron - Malkin - Hornqvist
Boedker - Bonino - Sprong
Empoleon8771
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Kunitz and Bonino for JVR, they already clocked the Leafs on one trade so might as well do it on another 
JVR-Crosby-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Malkin-Kessel
Perron-Fehr-Dupuis
Sundqvist-Cullen-Bennett
That's nasty and it's not asinine to put Perron on the 3rd line there.
JVR-Crosby-Hornqvist
Plotnikov-Malkin-Kessel
Perron-Fehr-Dupuis
Sundqvist-Cullen-Bennett
That's nasty and it's not asinine to put Perron on the 3rd line there.
Speaking Moistly
What a terrible image.
I don't know enough about Boedker's game beyond the whole "he's fast as ****, and not a goober with the puck on his stick."
There's a rumor floating around that Toronto wants to trade JVR, and has mentioned Zajac from the Devils as a piece that could be coming back. I'm sure we could put something together better than that. JVR is to me what Boedker is to you.
I'd take either and I've probably seen JVR play more anyway. Boedker would be cheaper
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Kunitz-Crosby-Kessel
Plotnikov-Malkin-Hornqvist
Dupuis-Bonino-Perron
Fehr-Boedker-JVR
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Mr Jiggyfly
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vabm8 isn't a dude, buddy.
Damn Nubs...
She told us not to post those pics she PMed us.
That dude has a weirdly cylindrical torso with no shape or definition of any kind. It's actually kind of impressive.
Speaking Moistly
What a terrible image.
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