Pre-Game Talk: Penguins @ St. Louis Blues - C'mon big trades!

[Randy Butternubs]

 

[crossicepass]

I see Sid is starting Greiss in goal

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

So Mackey (I think Mackey) said Management is watching the next two games closely to see what they do as far as trades. If fail, hopefully any trades they make is to stockpile picks. The draft is the answer to fix this mess within the coming years.

There is no way the big boys allow that to happen. Doubt Lemieux let's it happen.

Also it might be a great solution long term for the franchise, if they do allow it to happen I hope they get help for JR to get him better scouts. I would loveto see them make a move and get Trevor Timmins out of Montreal. Make him assistant GM with eventually JR leaving. Great track record as a head scout

 

[Terrapin]

What if they play these two games decently and still lose? What if they play bad and win? What if they play well tonight and lose because Greiss sucks?

Point is, not sure what they're looking at in these 2 games that they haven't seen in the last 2 months

 

[JimsDoors]

This is fine. It isn't fair to ride Fleury like a packmule all season. Especially when the team is collectively laying an egg in front of him, despite his efforts.

I would make a comment about it being a good way to further guarantee they lose this game and thus help necessitate change. But I don't take JR and the team's comments from yesterday at all seriously. If they are actually going to do something, it's probably already decided. Putting an arbitrary time limit on it makes no good sense.

So then again... maybe it is true. If there's one thing I know for sure, it's that this team does things the dumb/hard way.

The Pens have played 58gms so far and tonight will be Greiss' 13th start of the season. Saying Pitt has been riding MAF is a bit of a stretch.

How many other back-ups have started 13 already, while it not being due to injury?

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I should clarify. I really just meant in recent vintage. Fleury has been playing a lot of games with not a lot of results, lately. Again... despite him playing well. He deserves a rest not just physically but mentally.

What if they play these two games decently and still lose? What if they play bad and win? What if they play well tonight and lose because Greiss sucks?

Point is, not sure what they're looking at in these 2 games that they haven't seen in the last 2 months

You're absolutely right. It's almost certainly a big load of bull.

 

[FRUSTRATEDPENFAN*]

I want Crosby to struggle so some one will eventually call him out & he'll have to change his game.

Sid knows more than anyone that this team stinks and isn't going to win. No player is going to call him on anything because no one has the guts to say anything.

 

[Frederick Stanley]

I honestly have no desire watching this game, of course I'll end up watching it anyway.

 

[ColePens]

Doesn't even really matter how the pens play. If St. Louis comes to play the pens are going to get crushed. This team can't handle big teams. A nice losing streak leading up to the deadline is going to be good for this team's future. Housecleaning please.

I don't know man. Pens typically win a game like this. It's strange.

 

[Beauner]

This team needs to be retooled. There are simply too many passion-less, uninterested players that we need to get rid of. Adams, Scuderi, Kunitz, and Sutter bring nothing and I would trade them for nothing. Martin is still a useful player but hes very soft and plays without a semblance of passion.

Agree. What made the teams from 07-09 so good and exciting was guys with something to prove. TK breaking into the league, Roberts for his last shot at a cup, Ruuttu and Cooke being general badasses, Talbot willing to do anything to win.

This has been a problem for a couple years, but this team has no heart.

 

[Asuna]

What if they play these two games decently and still lose? What if they play bad and win? What if they play well tonight and lose because Greiss sucks?

Point is, not sure what they're looking at in these 2 games that they haven't seen in the last 2 months

Precisely. They need to make a move regardless of wtf happens in these two games.

These two games shouldn't mean ****.

 

[xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Here's to predicting a 5-1 win in dominant fashion to make everyone forget that we aren't that good, and to prolong the front office's decisions to continue to retool and improve the team.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I don't know man. Pens typically win a game like this. It's strange.

Agreed, a win tonight and a loss to the Panthers at home tomorrow. Typical Pens!!

 

[WayneSid9987]

I think you guys are missing the part where JR wanted to see this team play for a good stretch while it's forwards were healthy. They have been for a good stretch here and they've underperformed. These next 2 games are just important ones cuz they're getting really close to the TDL.

 

[Shrimper]

I want to see Crosby have a good game and rebound but at the same time I want to see this team shaken up and changed. I'm torn.

 

[FRUSTRATEDPENFAN*]

There is no way the big boys allow that to happen. Doubt Lemieux let's it happen.

Also it might be a great solution long term for the franchise, if they do allow it to happen I hope they get help for JR to get him better scouts. I would loveto see them make a move and get Trevor Timmins out of Montreal. Make him assistant GM with eventually JR leaving. Great track record as a head scout

They should be sellers at the Deadline, Martin , Ehrhoff , for 1st rd picks

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I want to see Crosby have a good game and rebound but at the same time I want to see this team shaken up and changed. I'm torn.

Same here, but with Sid and Geno here I don't see it happening

Would be nice to get assets back and move guys like Kunitz, Martin, Ehrhoff, Scuderi....

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

They should be sellers at the Deadline, Martin , Ehrhoff , for 1st rd picks

Don't have to be sellers, just have to be smart. If they don't plan on bringing certain players back, then yes trade them

 

[JBreed02]

This is fantastic.

 

[Shrimper]

Same here, but with Sid and Geno here I don't see it happening

Would be nice to get assets back and move guys like Kunitz, Martin, Ehrhoff, Scuderi....

Sid and Geno both scoring on the PP with us letting in 6 and Kunitz getting a 10 minute for misconduct.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

They should be sellers at the Deadline, Martin , Ehrhoff , for 1st rd picks

Ehrhoff has a no movement clause as a reward for taking a cheap one year deal.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Is there anyone on this team without movement clauses in their contract, I wonder?

 

[FRUSTRATEDPENFAN*]

Ehrhoff has a no movement clause as a reward for taking a cheap one year deal.

If he wants to win a cup he will accept a trade.

 

[Shockmaster]

Is there anyone on this team without movement clauses in their contract, I wonder?

Kunitz

 

[penguins2946*]

Kunitz

Kunitz does have one according to Yohe