Salary Cap: Penguins Salary Cap Thread: End of an era?
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BlindWillyMcHurt
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They should save their money to fill their soon-to-be 2C vacancy with someone who isn't a total clod, instead.
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Big Friggin Dummy
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Evan Rodrigues is gonna score a lotta goals for us. - Mike Sullivan
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BlindWillyMcHurt
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Coach spent half the year looking like a total genius and half the year exactly as any sane man expected on that one, eh?
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Didn’t Ol’ Man Sully also say something along the lines of “We still believe that Kappy can be an elite player” at the start of this season?
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He said pretty much the same recently too, didn't he?
He loves to pump the tires of his players. That's undeniable. But I genuinely think he sees something in E-Rod nobody else does. Whether it's there or not... Eh.
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He said pretty much the same recently too, didn't he?
He loves to pump the tires of his players. That's undeniable. But I genuinely think he sees something in E-Rod nobody else does. Whether it's there or not... Eh.
He's gonna put it all together right at about the age of 30.
That's how NHL players develop, man.
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He said pretty much the same recently too, didn't he?
He loves to pump the tires of his players. That's undeniable. But I genuinely think he sees something in E-Rod nobody else does. Whether it's there or not... Eh.
Rodrigues had 3 goals and 5 points in 7 playoff games for us lol. What a weird take.
Not to mention the whole 19 goals and 40+ pt regular season.
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If we keep Kapanen can we try him on the PK at least (the main area he excelled at in Toronto)or are we scared a slapshot might break our elite 3rd liner’s foot?
Evan Rodrigues at 1 Million was not a problem last year.
That was amazing value
That was amazing value
BlindWillyMcHurt
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Yep.
You need to always be looking for good value guys like that.
...and then immediately walk away from them when they stop being a value.
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The most important reason you move on from Kapanen, Rodrigues and Heinen is money. The second most important reason is to inject a different style into your bottom six.
Rodrigues and Heinen were steals at $1 million. Rodrigues will get a sizeable raise, while Heinen has a solid qualifying offer that could be tricky in arbitration. Both can score goals but can also disappear for stretches. You thank them both and let them get paid by others.
Kapanen will make less this year than he did last year. So why not keep him? Better bang for your buck with other players. You can find guys with less of a ceiling but more consistency who are more versatile at the same price that Kapanen will come in at.
Moving on from them does not make them bad players. They're all NHL caliber. They're just not fits for what the Pens need or what the Pens should pay.
Rodrigues and Heinen were steals at $1 million. Rodrigues will get a sizeable raise, while Heinen has a solid qualifying offer that could be tricky in arbitration. Both can score goals but can also disappear for stretches. You thank them both and let them get paid by others.
Kapanen will make less this year than he did last year. So why not keep him? Better bang for your buck with other players. You can find guys with less of a ceiling but more consistency who are more versatile at the same price that Kapanen will come in at.
Moving on from them does not make them bad players. They're all NHL caliber. They're just not fits for what the Pens need or what the Pens should pay.
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I'll say this re: ERod... I'd probably rather have him at 2.2M to play center at this point than Blueger.
Maybe even Carter. Probably not in the balance. But maybe. On days when Carter is out there shrugging his shoulders while the goaltender fishes another puck out of his net yes.
Maybe even Carter. Probably not in the balance. But maybe. On days when Carter is out there shrugging his shoulders while the goaltender fishes another puck out of his net yes.
Yeah if you want to win a cup you make a few bets on guys like this and hope they all break out when you are making a run. Reliable depth scoring costs you much more than 1 million
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I am 100% in agreement with this. Unfortunately, these are the types of players the coach wants.
Until/unless that changes, or until/unless someone in management defies the HC and brings in what we really need up front (and to a lesser degree on D), then we will continue to see these types of players all over the lineup.
And then management will come up with a new pile of excuses when we get bounced in the first round next spring...
"this time I really thought we had them."
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Even with his horrible play in the second half of the season, Kapanen still finished the year with 32 points in 79 games. I think Gurianov's contract of 1 year at $2.9 million is pretty much spot on with what Kapanen will get, they produced almost identical totals last year.
Misread the comment about him being a "bang for your buck" player, I totally agree with that. If Kapanen would be coming in at 1 year at $2.5 million, I'd be fine with putting him on the 3rd line with Carter. But that's a pretty decently high risk move, when you could make a much safer move than spending $2.5 million on a guy who forgot how to play hockey in January.
Misread the comment about him being a "bang for your buck" player, I totally agree with that. If Kapanen would be coming in at 1 year at $2.5 million, I'd be fine with putting him on the 3rd line with Carter. But that's a pretty decently high risk move, when you could make a much safer move than spending $2.5 million on a guy who forgot how to play hockey in January.
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So much this. It might also help his confidence if he’s contributing when not scoring.
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Yeah so did ERod and I would be saying the same thing about ERod if people were arguing about bringing him back.
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So did every player not on L1 or Malkin tbh.
Which makes me question the coach not the players.
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