Confirmed with Link: Penguins acquire D Douglas Murray from Sharks for 2013 2nd, 2014 conditional 2nd

[Dying Alive]

Why would Shero be on the hot seat? You guys are 2nd in the East

We're first in the East. Welcome to the Pittsburgh Penguins section of HF Boards.

 

[Dr Frasier Crane]

Wow, did we overpay. Jesus. Shero's on the hot seat. Upper management has told him so. ONLY thing that makes sense.

Panic in Pittsburgh, man!

Yes, panic in Pittsburgh after winning 12 straight

Horrible trade, though.

 

[Wes C Addle]

hearing that the one of the 2nd rounders might be conditional on Murray re-signing

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Shero brilliantly driving up prices at the deadline. He's flaunting the rules of capitalism and playing the market like a violin. The Penguins are going for the Cup and full communism.

 

[Sotty]

Its funny that everyone (or most people) were getting all pissed off if Shero didn't make any moves and holds back. He goes out and lands a top 9 forward and a decent big bodied d-man and its overpayment. Cant have it both ways close to the trade deadline guys

This. People always complain that the scouts don't get anything of worth out of the 2nd rounders and now they cry because Shero uses them to enhance the team.
Shero might get back a 2nd or 3rd for Kennedy if trades him. Just wait how everything plays out before you start whining about everything.

 

[Harv]

 

[SeventyOne]

Some of you people I swear. We get 2 vets that will be great for the playoffs, did not give up a roster player, still have unbelievable defensive depth with our prospects, and still have our 1st rounder and two 3rd rounders.

Unreal, some of you.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

Can we please make a Fire Shero thread? i like how he's improving the team, but he's the only GM who's getting hosed, bad.

Ya, this is really poking holes in the "Shero always win's his trades so it's ok that he only drafts Dmen" argument.

 

[Nightwing]

So im assuming its either cup or bust this season lol

 

[66-30-33]

Flames GM: Asking Price of Iginla is now 3 prospects+1st.

I bet that is what he will say now lol.

 

[spcastlemagic]

HFBoards, where a 2nd round draft pick is more valuable THAN EVERYTHING

 

[sf expat71]

I wonder if this means the Sharks are going to be sellers this season, for a big rebuild. Although the douggernaut wasn't my first choice from them, I wouldn't have minded getting some of their other vets...

 

[On Vinyl]

Both of these moves seem like they were made by the Bizzaro-Shero.

 

[PensFan68]

Some of you people I swear. We get 2 vets that will be great for the playoffs, did not give up a roster player, still have unbelievable defensive depth with our prospects, and still have our 1st rounder and two 3rd rounders.

Unreal, some of you.

Oh so true. Glad I'm not the only one thinking clearly.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Bruce Garrioch ‏@SunGarrioch 1m

The Sharks got two second round picks but the second pick is conditional if Murray doesn't re-sign with Pens. #NHL

Don't re-sign him, Ray.


I've seen a lot of Sharks games this year. Murray isn't someone who should be playing 15 minutes a night on any team at this point. He's not just bad, he's a ******* liability. Sharks fans would have been happy to get a 7th rounder for him.

I defend the Morrow deal, but this one is indefensible. This board is going to hate Murray.

 

[deakka]

Ok, yesterday was bad. But this takes the price. Murray aint even worth ONE 2nd round pick, let alone 2. This is an insane overpayment.

And do i even have to name the fact that thios years draft have 1st round talent through the first TWO rounds. and now we doesnt even have a 2nd rounder. Thanks ray!

That cost could have gotten us Klesla whos 3 times the player Murray is. Whats wrong with Shero??

 

[PensFan68]

hearing that the one of the 2nd rounders might be conditional on Murray re-signing

This would calm down some people I think.

 

[IcedCapp]

Pretty much. And again this is the only place I'm seeing anything negative.

There's a really good reason for that. Look at the people who are saying things positive about both trades. They are basing it off of the names Brenden Morrow and Douglas Murray, and what those players have done in the past, and not what they are doing in the present. I see people talking about grit and hits and all this for Morrow, and posting youtube clip highlights from 2-5 years ago. That's not the guy they got. Same with Murray.

 

[Iggy Smalls]

Whatever Shero wanted to acquire from Phoenix was too rich of a price to pay?

 

[PensPlz]

Eaton has been doing a phenomenal job. I do not see how they scratch him right now for Murray. Something tells me the trades aren't over yet... and I don't think I'm going to like them.

 

[Crafton]

there's a bar called Jack's. it sits across from a Foster's Freeze on the outskirts of Japantown, about two and half miles from HP Pavilion. there's a karaoke joint around the way, where i once preformed the worst rendition of 'Take Me to the River' known to man. i watched the Shark's playoff game against the Blues there with my best friend in the world. he'd just returned to the area after spending two years in Japan. i was drinking Buffalo Trace neat, he'd opted for the Bulleit. there's very little i remember from the rest of the night, but seared in my mind is the image of ol' crankshaft (hey guys, that's his nickname!!!) covering the backdoor on the PK, moving so damn slow as to bring to mind Doom2 lagging on your father's computer circa 1996. i think it was Andy Macdonald who scored on a shot that the whole of the bar's patronage knew was going in.

why even complain? the last two days have revealed that i know nothing about hocket.

 

[Dying Alive]

This would calm down some people I think.

I don't think anything would calm people down. There is like a hysterical miasma on this board right now.

 

[AquaticBirdman]

If one of the 2nd rounders is "conditional" then that makes this deal a bit more tolerable..but not much more. I still think we overpaid.

 

[Darth Vitale]

Wow... that seems... a little steep for a banger. A conditional pick would make sense except... why would the Pens want to sign Murray long term with their stable of D coming up. And where is Bortuzzo going?

I still think we're not done because we still need to clear roster space.

 

[Sjb141]

http://twitter.com/SunGarrioch/statuses/316242232548159488

Consider the source.

Sounds much more reasonable. 2nd still seems high but I can understand that given the market this year. 2 2's seemed really high.


(and just to clarify - I love murray. He's one of my favorite non-pens players. I hope he finds some of his game from 2 or 3 years ago.)