Proposal: Pavel Buchnevich for a top-4 LHD

[Gospel of Prospal]

With Kakko, Kravtsov, and Gauthier on the right side, Buchnevich becomes a bit expendable.

Rangers need a top-4 LHD to pair with Trouba. Who could we get for Buchnevich (and/or possibly Strome and/or Georgiev)? Bear in mind that the Rangers can't add much salary with the flat cap.

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[Pitaya]

Buchnevich wont ever get that on his own - NY would need to add their 1st next year to get the talk going for a legit top-4 dman

Id also say they could just sign Dillon in FA but teams such as my Devils will likely our bid them

 

[Djp]

You aren’t getting a cheaper LD who’s a top 4 for him nor for Strome.

 

[spockBokk]

Brady Skjei?...heh

 

[Flyer lurker]

Is it worth losing Lindgren in ED to acquire such a d because he would be picked in .012 seconds?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Fleury?

 

[Zahra Starker]

With Kakko, Kravtsov, and Gauthier on the right side, Buchnevich becomes a bit expendable.

Rangers need a top-4 LHD to pair with Trouba. Who could we get for Buchnevich (and/or possibly Strome and/or Georgiev)? Bear in mind that the Rangers can't add much salary with the flat cap.

You guys should keep buchnevich and send kakko down because he is becoming another puljujarvi. The guy does not belong in the nhl at the moment.

 

[Bluto]

You guys should keep buchnevich and send kakko down because he is becoming another puljujarvi. The guy does not belong in the nhl at the moment.

Kakko is fine. Him and Hughes essentially had identical stats. You can't consider him a bust after his 18 year old rookie season. If you're calling Kakko a bust, then Hughes is also a bust.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Kakko is fine. Him and Hughes essentially had identical stats. Can't call him a bust after his 18 year old rookie season. If you're calling Kakko a bust, then Hughes is also a bust.

Kakko is the one Ranger who showed up this playoffs. He will be fine with time and experience.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If a LHD is a need, why did you trade away Skjei? I get that he’s not perfect (what d is?), but you are not likely to get someone better in a trade for what you are willing to give up.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Ya, echoing what others have already said... Buchenvich doesn't come close to returning that level of player.


Now Buchnevich + 1st would be a different conversation that potentially sees some real solid value to be had for the team trading the Dman. But Buch by himself just doesn't do it.



The best bet for the Rangers is probably to target a free agent. Torey Krug would be a wonderful fit for that team, not sure he actually leaves Boston but New York would be wise to do what they could to get him if he was willing to leave.

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Ya, echoing what others have already said... Buchenvich doesn't come close to returning that level of player.


Now Buchnevich + 1st would be a different conversation that potentially sees some real solid value to be had for the team trading the Dman. But Buch by himself just doesn't do it.



The best bet for the Rangers is probably to target a free agent. Torey Krug would be a wonderful fit for that team, not sure he actually leaves Boston but New York would be wise to do what they could to get him if he was willing to leave.

If COL takes Staal + Buch then NYR can chase Krug. Help them out with all of your cap space

 

[Zahra Starker]

Kakko is fine. Him and Hughes essentially had identical stats. You can't consider him a bust after his 18 year old rookie season. If you're calling Kakko a bust, then Hughes is also a bust.

Please tell me where I said kakko was a bust. I didn't even say anything close to it. My exact words were " kakko doesn't belong in the nhl at the moment" I compared him to puljujarvi because both could have used all time at this point in their career and it would have done them some good.

 

[Odie Cleghorn]

How does Gauthier make Buchnevich expendable?

 

[Bluto]

Please tell me where I said kakko was a bust. I didn't even say anything close to it. My exact words were " kakko doesn't belong in the nhl at the moment" I compared him to puljujarvi because both could have used all time at this point in their career and it would have done them some good.

Except Kakko scored more points in his rookie season than Puljujarvi has scored in any season.
Kakko is fine. He'll get a lot of playing time next year. The biggest adjustment for him was the NA rink. He's arguably the best Ranger on the ice in the playoffs as an 18 year old. Kakko might even eclipse Puljujarvi's career points next season.
No need to send him to the AHL at this point. He starts on the second line next year.
I'm not worried about Kakko's development. He's finally playing with confidence.
The only comparison between Puljujarvi and Kakko is that they're both Fins.
Chytil, however, needs to step up next year.

 

[Flyer lurker]

If a LHD is a need, why did you trade away Skjei? I get that he’s not perfect (what d is?), but you are not likely to get someone better in a trade for what you are willing to give up.

1)Even pre covid Rangers had cap issues and chose Krieder over Skjei.

2) Skjei would have been exposed 2021 ED and probably picked. better to get 1 now.

3) Skjei hockey iq isn't off the charts. See youtube video as exhibit a.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

So what I’ve gathered here is that Kravtsov is ready to replace Buch, Buch has negative value, and Kakko is becoming Puljujarvi.

We haven’t yet heard how Buch needs to be traded because you can’t win with too many Russians.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

How does Gauthier make Buchnevich expendable?

He doesn’t. These people are off their rocker. It’s highly unlikely at this point that Kravtsov or Gauthier ever are as good as Buch is right now, and yet he’s become expendable because prospects.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Rangers can't afford to trade Buch, we are fairly weak at RW as it is and are losing Fast most likely. Trade Buch and we are counting on a big jump from all 3 of Kakko, Gauthier, Kravtsov to even have decent depth. And the odds of all 3 players making a huge jump isn't great.

 

[Asymmetric Solution]

Jake McCabe?

 

[Halla]

who is trading a cheap top 4 LHD for a winger that hasnt ever hit 50pts?

 

[McJedi]

Rangers can't afford to trade Buch, we are fairly weak at RW as it is and are losing Fast most likely. Trade Buch and we are counting on a big jump from all 3 of Kakko, Gauthier, Kravtsov to even have decent depth. And the odds of all 3 players making a huge jump isn't great.

Kravtsov and Buch for Ryan Graves. Buch is the plus, not the base. Top 4 D are expensive to acquire. Gotta pay the price.

 

[JT Kreider]

If a LHD is a need, why did you trade away Skjei? I get that he’s not perfect (what d is?), but you are not likely to get someone better in a trade for what you are willing to give up.

Skjei was traded away to clear the cap space of an underperforming player, plain and simple. Even after the trade we will still be up tough against the cap this offseason, we would be utterly boned had we kept him.

We really just need a stop gap LHD until KA Miller is ready. Robertson and Jones on the way too who we are super high on.

As of now our LHD depth going into next season is
Lindgren
Smith
Staal
Hajek.

Hajek cant be trusted until he shows something and Smith and Staal are atrocious.

We should not be trading a significant piece to fill this hole nor should we be looking for someone with significant term.

Rangers fans shoot down Georgiev and Smith for Wolanin and a 2nd which would be a home run trade, but then make this stupid thread.

 

[JT Kreider]

You guys should keep buchnevich and send kakko down because he is becoming another puljujarvi. The guy does not belong in the nhl at the moment.

Wtf no The flashes were there during the season and he was finally starting to put it together before the season paused and carried that over to the playoffs and has positioned himself for a huge year 2 jump.

Zero concern about Kakko, on the list of things the Rangers need to worry about he is dead last.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

I understand that LHD is the bigger need moving forward, but I’d wait until at least one of those guys are playing at a top six level in the NHL before trading Buch