Post-Game Talk: Pasta wins it in OT - Bruins regain control of destiny

[BsEuphoria]

They are going to have to play a whole lot better in their own zone to see any playoff hockey. Spooner and Pasta have been great on the offence, however few would disagree they are a $hit show at times in their own zone. Even yesterday when they were the only two to score, I was surprised to see Pasta in OT after he turned that puck over late in the third and the Canes had about 90 seconds of intense pressure on the Bs. That is what kids do though, give Clode credit, he went with a hunch and it paid off, his coaching drives me nuts but he gets results.

The freakin binky of a 4th line is a **** show in their own end as well, big difference is they couldn't hit the ocean with a puck on the couple occasions per game they actually get it in the O zone. Usually they start there after a commercial break, then proceed to the hemming process.

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

BTW, that Smith dangle move 1-on-1 in the 3rd was the best chance of the night. That was a really nice move and a very big stop by Khudobin.

 

[ReggieMoto]

We're still doing the clode hates kids meme huh? Alright then.

Did you see the interview?

What did he say?

This might be what he's referring to:

 

[Mainehockey33]

Someone should mention the 4th lines defensive issues, wipe that smile right off his face.

 

[ReggieMoto]

Someone should mention the 4th lines defensive issues, wipe that smile right off his face.

Do you think he's wrong re: Pastrnak and Spooner?

 

[hocky]

The whole team has defensive issues.

 

[Mainehockey33]

Do you think he's wrong re: Pastrnak and Spooner?

I think Spooner has been better than Pastrnak on defense, but I think every line has made some boneheaded mistakes on defense so I don't see the point in singling out the kids. I would expect them to make more mistakes then Bergy or Campbell, but he's never called out Campbell for his play on either side of the puck.

Claude may not "hate" kids, but he absolutely plays the favorite game.

 

[Mainehockey33]

The whole team has defensive issues.

Exactly, and the defense corp is pretty bad so of course players like Bergeron are going to look bad from time to time because of it.

 

[ReggieMoto]

I think Spooner has been better than Pastrnak on defense, but I think every line has made some boneheaded mistakes on defense so I don't see the point in singling out the kids.

He didn't. Jack did.

I think it's expected, too. Everyone knows that "defense first" is CJ's game plan. It's unlikely that Pastrnak -- an extremely talented offense-minded player -- would have strong defensive skills. He'll develop them. Coach knows that. And Spooner has been with the org 2 seasons now. He's developing his defensive skills that will allow him to play as the 2nd or 3rd line center role. He's getting it.

And this is the quandary. Looch, Spoons and Pastrnak are a pretty decent production line...that is somewhat weak on defense. The whole line. Yet they are playing.

I would think that Coach's smile is indicative of he recognizes the shortcomings while playing them anyway.

 

[wintersej]

Jack started the call out, and Clode did his little snicker and followed it up with "I'm glad someone else noticed".... Like no one else on the team turned the puck over.

I said it in another thread, I'm tired of their D/turnovers being under a freaking microscope every game. They aren't freaking Bergeron for Christ sakes.

Hockey is a game of turnovers. They happen all the time. But you can't tell me you don't cringe when Pasta blindly throws stuff in the high slot leading to a turnover or makes risky cross ice passes in the neutral zone. He just needs to get better at knowing when its OK to take risks and be creative and when the boring play is better. I think they are handling him very well.

 

[Hali33]

While I think it's true that line has some defensive issues, I think our other lines have offensive issues that are hurting us just as much. But they don't get their ice time chopped despite not being productive in those minutes. This never seems to be a problem for him.

I respect what Clode is doing trying to shelter the kid line. I get it. And in defense of the last game, maybe Pasta was having a hard time keeping up in the 3rd game in 4 nights. He had a couple sloppy shifts.

But I hate the idea of this team getting caught trying to ride out these 1-1, 2-1 games and I will be completely gutted if playing it safe sees us edged out of the playoffs. The kids have produced so well in their limited ice time. I'd like to see 2-3 more shifts a game and see what happens. They are not the only line getting caught defensively and their production has far outweighed their defensive issues.

 

[ReggieMoto]

I think they -- the "kids" -- are getting exhausted playing like this. And if that's the case, imagine how they are going to feel playing playoff hockey!

I know folks are ragging on CJ for rolling that fourth line, preferring instead that he roll three scoring lines. If the Spooner line is that beat rolling four lines, imagine how bad it would be rolling three?

I'm with wintersej. I think they are being managed well. I hate seeing the low-scoring, close games as much as the next one. But I think CJ is managing the "yutes" TOI pretty well.

 

[Mainehockey33]

He didn't. Jack did.

I think it's expected, too. Everyone knows that "defense first" is CJ's game plan. It's unlikely that Pastrnak -- an extremely talented offense-minded player -- would have strong defensive skills. He'll develop them. Coach knows that. And Spooner has been with the org 2 seasons now. He's developing his defensive skills that will allow him to play as the 2nd or 3rd line center role. He's getting it.

And this is the quandary. Looch, Spoons and Pastrnak are a pretty decent production line...that is somewhat weak on defense. The whole line. Yet they are playing.

I would think that Coach's smile is indicative of he recognizes the shortcomings while playing them anyway.

Sure, and they're not wrong. I'm not sure if they think they're in on some secret. Everyone knows they'll make mistakes, laughing about it doesn't make them edgy. I'd have more respect if he called out guys like Seidenberg, Kelly, Paille, Campbell and try to light a fire under their *****.

 

[VanIsle]

I don't see the defensive problems with the kids.
Sure they may allow a goal or 2 here and there, but at least they can score.

Players +/- in last 10 games.

Pasta +3
Spooner +2
Campbell -3
Talbot -3

Also the kids are only getting 3-4 minutes per period per game.

 

[LouJersey]

The only reason that Claude is still even in the running for having a job next year are the kids. No Spooner, No Pasta, no play-offs and no job next year.

So Claude can keep tempting fate with his 4th line priapism, or he can give the kids more time in tight or tied games and actually try to win in regulation... No 4 on 4 in the play-offs big guy.

https://youtu.be/b5-iJUuPWis

 

[Seidenbergy]

I think they -- the "kids" -- are getting exhausted playing like this. And if that's the case, imagine how they are going to feel playing playoff hockey!

In the playoffs, you get three games in 7 nights......never 3 games in 4 nights.

 

[LSCII]

The only reason that Claude is still even in the running for having a job next year are the kids. No Spooner, No Pasta, no play-offs and no job next year.

So Claude can keep tempting fate with his 4th line priapism, or he can give the kids more time in tight or tied games and actually try to win in regulation... No 4 on 4 in the play-offs big guy.

https://youtu.be/b5-iJUuPWis

I loathe his handling of young players and have ever since he's been here. A young guy can't even make the slightest mistake without getting a seat, yet a veteran can literally sleepwalk through the season, making mistake after mistake, and they not only don't have any punitive actions taken against them, but they get rewarded with more ice time and in key situations.

 

[VanIsle]

Campbell 2 assists in last 10 games
Talbot 1 assist in last 10 games
= 3 assists, 3 points

Pasta 2 goals 6 assists in last 10 games
Spooner 4 goals 3 assists in last 10 games
= 6 goals 9 assists, 15 points

Yea play the 4th line more because it makes sense

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

Yeah I'm sure it must be really aggravating to see his players score.

We're still doing the clode hates kids meme huh? Alright then.

He hates kids and he hates offense. No matter how many times this has been proven wrong.

 

[Hali33]

And the way things go on in our own end I have little trust in keeping it to 1-2 goals. I would feel different if this team had a stable defense situation. Unless Rask is gonna go on another tear and I think he's wearing down a bit.

When you're leaving it that close and the games mean so much, one bad call or one brain fart or error might be the end of you.

 

[Stone Clode]

Campbell 2 assists in last 10 games
Talbot 1 assist in last 10 games
= 3 assists, 3 points

Pasta 2 goals 6 assists in last 10 games
Spooner 4 goals 3 assists in last 10 games
= 6 goals 9 assists, 15 points

Yea play the 4th line more because it makes sense

But the 4th line is BETTER defensively!! Why put the kids out there because they aren't good DEFENSIVELY! They'll just let in goals! We can win these games 0-0, or even in the shootout.

Seriously though, we've watched one-third of the total games this year go into OT or the shootout. He's trying to win games 0-0 and that is horribly frustrating to watch, and it doesn't work in the playoffs at all.

 

[Lobster57]

He hates kids and he hates offense. No matter how many times this has been proven wrong.

VanIsle's last 2 posts, along with Campbell's ice-time lately are a compelling argument

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

VanIsle's last 2 posts, along with Campbell's ice-time lately are a compelling argument

That he hates kids? Or that he hates offense?

 

[BB88]

Campbell 2 assists in last 10 games
Talbot 1 assist in last 10 games
= 3 assists, 3 points

Pasta 2 goals 6 assists in last 10 games
Spooner 4 goals 3 assists in last 10 games
= 6 goals 9 assists, 15 points

Yea play the 4th line more because it makes sense

This is why I'm mad with our coaching.
We are strugglin to score and our best offensive guys are getting the least icetime, but hey they make a few mistakes and should sit, everyone on this team does mistakes, but atleast those 2 can score.

 

[Lobster57]

That he hates kids? Or that he hates offense?

little from column A, little from column B

I don't think Claude won't play young guys. I don't think he hates offense. I do think he over uses a fairly ineffective 4th line at the expense of a line that has been the most productive on the team. I also feel like he lacks a killer instinct as a coach. After Spooner's goal yesterday he rolled out the 4th, why? Either the swedes or Bergy's line would have been ready to go, why not try for another and break the back of a weak team?