Part 4. We Don't Need An Enforcer. We have Pacioretty and Subban

[Ohashi_Jouzu*]

Can Tinner act as an enforcer when needed?

Everyone hopes so.

 

[Brainiac]

Great scrap by Tinordi. Looked strong. Got a few punches in and looked like he just didn't care.

I guess he's not gonna go out of his way to initiate a fight, but if it has to happen, he'll be there and do the job.

 

[Slugger]

Fighting is only down because there isn't enforcers anymore. You're still getting the 2 fights a night from guys that can play. Enforcers inflate the fighting %

 

[Kojo]

We got Tinordi and Prust, they both can play hockey. Tinordi is going to be scary in a few years, he's already a beast. Pound-for-pound Prust is one of the best fighter in the league. We're not lacking.

If we play an enforcer we'll be worst of and said enforcer will be completely useless in the playoffs.

 

[firewagon77*]

Montreal has Daniel Lacroix on the bench if a brawl ever happens he played a combined 927 games in the QMJHL,IHL,BISHL,QSPHL,AHL,and NHL he got 3792 career PIM always remember him with the Flyers.

 

[Kriss E]

Given your response, I'd say you care... enough to try and justify why I should watch anyway. Odd.

Nobody cares man. You're not a fan. It's been clear from day 1.

 

[LastWordArmy]

That's right, they don't even have to be dressed.

In Robbins case, they don't even have to be in the same league. He intimidates NHLers who know he is on that team's AHL roster.

 

[Deluded Puck]

In Robbins case, they don't even have to be in the same league. He intimidates NHLers who know he is on that team's AHL roster.

You people need to stop trolling, I mean enjoying that you were right.

 

[izzy75]

You people need to stop trolling, I mean enjoying that you were right.

I was wrong. I can admit that. I truly thought teams would come out bullying and hitting Montreal into oblivion. It's a young season, perhaps things will change.

 

[Kriss E]

I was wrong. I can admit that. I truly thought teams would come out bullying and hitting Montreal into oblivion. It's a young season, perhaps things will change.

That's because you think so little of our team.

 

[Wats]

Everyone hopes so.

It's probably the main reasons he, and McCarron, were drafted so high - provide toughness while having ability to play. I think it's fair to even suggest that if either were soft, they would not be Habs picks right now.

 

[Rapala]

I was wrong. I can admit that. I truly thought teams would come out bullying and hitting Montreal into oblivion. It's a young season, perhaps things will change.

Don't worry the Sens are likely to try it first opp.

 

[Corncob]

Standard.

Thread is over, all the people arguing that x was going to happen if we didn't sign Goonie McGoon have been proven wrong (especially those that were silly enough to predict specific events in specific games), but the second someone happens to run into Price or someone gets facewashed in a scrum, they'll all be back crying and saying 'see told you so, this would never have happened if we had a goon'.

Even though Gallagher is currently running into goalies at a PPG rate and doesn't appear to care who is sitting on the opposition bench...

 

[Lshap]

Standard.

Thread is over, all the people arguing that x was going to happen if we didn't sign Goonie McGoon have been proven wrong (especially those that were silly enough to predict specific events in specific games), but the second someone happens to run into Price or someone gets facewashed in a scrum, they'll all be back crying and saying 'see told you so, this would never have happened if we had a goon'.

Even though Gallagher is currently running into goalies at a PPG rate and doesn't appear to care who is sitting on the opposition bench...

So now you're criticizing the pro-enforcer crowd for something they haven't done yet. That's just as bad as the pro-enforcer crowd criticizing the Habs for something that hasn't happened yet.

One guy who wanted a goon has admitted he was wrong so far. He gets points for being big enough to own up to it. Don't see a reason to create a disturbance in the Force by anticipating new arguments.

 

[Kriss E]

So now you're criticizing the pro-enforcer crowd for something they haven't done yet. That's just as bad as the pro-enforcer crowd criticizing the Habs for something that hasn't happened yet.

One guy who wanted a goon has admitted he was wrong so far. He gets points for being big enough to own up to it. Don't see a reason to create a disturbance in the Force by anticipating new arguments.

He's showing how silly and predictable that crowd is.

 

[Lshap]

He's showing how silly and predictable that crowd is.

So let them step in the dog poo themselves instead of discussing how they might/could/will step in it.

 

[Corncob]

So now you're criticizing the pro-enforcer crowd for something they haven't done yet.

No I'm criticizing them for something they have done multiple times before and will do again in the future.

 

[DAChampion]

Standard.

Thread is over, all the people arguing that x was going to happen if we didn't sign Goonie McGoon have been proven wrong (especially those that were silly enough to predict specific events in specific games), but the second someone happens to run into Price or someone gets facewashed in a scrum, they'll all be back crying and saying 'see told you so, this would never have happened if we had a goon'.

Even though Gallagher is currently running into goalies at a PPG rate and doesn't appear to care who is sitting on the opposition bench...

The season is young ...

 

[68*]

Man I miss the era of goons in the NHL. I saw a name that I had not seen in years today: Francis Lessard. Plays in the LNAH now.

 

[Rapala]

He's showing how silly and predictable that crowd is.

There is a silly crowd that has emerged from this thread.
The ones who think that removing Goons from rosters will eliminate fighting in The NHL.
What GM isn't happy to have a hockey player(s) who happens to be able to fight?

Absolutely nothing has changed; teams who have hybrid(s) will use them if they feel it is to their advantage.
Hopefully we will see less staged crap but as for the rest of it...
buttons will be pushed.

 

[Corncob]

There is a silly crowd that has emerged from this thread.
The ones who think that removing Goons from rosters will eliminate fighting in The NHL.

Who's in that crowd? Can't say I've noticed.

 

[Kriss E]

There is a silly crowd that has emerged from this thread.
The ones who think that removing Goons from rosters will eliminate fighting in The NHL.
What GM isn't happy to have a hockey player(s) who happens to be able to fight?

Absolutely nothing has changed; teams who have hybrid(s) will use them if they feel it is to their advantage.
Hopefully we will see less staged crap but as for the rest of it...
buttons will be pushed.

There isn't one person that has argued this. Fights have been on the decline for years, but they will never be eliminated.

 

[Rapala]

There isn't one person that has argued this. Fights have been on the decline for years, but they will never be eliminated.

The anti fighting sentiment was very prevalent in many of the posts I read as were the inferences.
The logic became soo skewed at one point people weren't even able to admit that a goon and an enforcer could just possibly be two different animals.

i haven't seen as much crap flow since I quit my job at the waste-water treatment facility.
Far too many people taking themselves far too seriously for what?

Nothing has or will change and let's hope to god we do have an enforcer because we need one.

 

[Corncob]

The logic became soo skewed at one point people weren't even able to admit that a goon and an enforcer could just possibly be two different animals.

Everyone's prepared to admit that, it just had no relevance to this thread. The discussion topic of the thread was whether the roster should include a player who was only there on the basis of being able/willing to fight, not for any hockey playing use.

You decided to pop in and pretend you were disagreeing with people based on your own definitions of terms when it was obvious that was not how they were defining them.

It's fairly obvious from the posts where you have avoided semantics that you are broadly in agreement with, say, myself and Kriss, but you're still pretending that you disagree.

 

[Kriss E]

The anti fighting sentiment was very prevalent in many of the posts I read as were the inferences.
The logic became soo skewed at one point people weren't even able to admit that a goon and an enforcer could just possibly be two different animals.

i haven't seen as much crap flow since I quit my job at the waste-water treatment facility.
Far too many people taking themselves far too seriously for what?

Nothing has or will change and let's hope to god we do have an enforcer because we need one.

So you're arguing about semantics?
Sure, Enforcers and Goons are different. Enforcer is used to enforce something or someone. A goon is just a guy that fights and possibly bullies.
A guy like Prust is an enforcer. A guy like Parros is a goon. So sure, you can say it's about goons. Really, you can say they're falabalullas if you want, it doesn't matter.
It's been clear from the very first thread that people were discussing players that are used for 5 min just to fight. So really call them whatever you want, that's who we were discussing.
If you want to discuss about a guy like Prust, then everybody will agree he's a key player to have.