Value of: Parayko to Philly?

[RandallRitchey]

I'd be more curious on what the price of Claude Giroux is.

 

[Starat327]

I'd be more curious on what the price of Claude Giroux is.

If we're testing giroux, it means full on rebuild. And with Giroux showing no real signs of slowing down... Well, i won't name names, but I think you know who we'd be after.

 

[ManyIdeas]

If we're testing giroux, it means full on rebuild. And with Giroux showing no real signs of slowing down... Well, i won't name names, but I think you know who we'd be after.

Back to the t-ravs, I see.

 

[Starat327]

Back to the t-ravs, I see.

Along with some Ted's custard.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I’d have to agree. I saw a thread the other day calling Gritty generational, and meanwhile I’ve seen a million Parayko threads calling Parayko an overrated second pairing defenseman due to his some advanced stat that is supposed to measure strength of competition or whatever.

I’d imagine if we’re bringing in Gritty, Louie would have to go the other way though.

Actual advanced stats folk recognize Parayko as being really damn good.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

Along with some Ted's custard.

You’re ruthless.

I respect that

 

[67Blues]

Along with some Ted's custard.

Next he'll want a Christmas tree from Ted's lot as a throw in.

 

[stl76]

Actual advanced stats folk recognize Parayko as being really damn good.

It’s mostly Toronto fans like @zeke who are hyper focused on 5v5TOI%QoC and ignore all other evidence to the contrary in order insist on labeling Parayko a 2nd paring dman. As you say, anyone with half a brain can see Parayko is an excellent dman.

FWIW last time I checked Parayko’s 5v5TOI%QoC is top 30 league wide this year. And as I’m sure you know all his other advanced stats are sterling.

With Pietrangelo out, Parayko has been playing top pairing and doing an excellent job so far - so eye test confirms the advanced stats IMO.

Next he'll want a Christmas tree from Ted's lot as a throw in.

OMG I have some really great childhood memories of picking out trees from the Ted Drewes tree lot.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

It’s mostly Toronto fans like @zeke who are hyper focused on 5v5TOI%QoC and ignore all other evidence to the contrary in order insist on labeling Parayko a 2nd paring dman. As you say, anyone with half a brain can see Parayko is an excellent dman.

FWIW last time I checked Parayko’s 5v5TOI%QoC is top 30 league wide this year. And as I’m sure you know all his other advanced stats are sterling.

With Pietrangelo out, Parayko has been playing top pairing and doing an excellent job so far - so eye test confirms the advanced stats IMO.


OMG I have some really great childhood memories of picking out trees from the Ted Drewes tree lot.

Yeah imo only real flaw with Parayko is his average ish offense. His defense is amazing and anyone with a brain cell can see that.

 

[67Blues]

Yeah imo only real flaw with Parayko is his average ish offense. His defense is amazing and anyone with a brain cell can see that.

I'll take a defenseman who is amazing in his own end and can chip in on offense occasionally every single time. Scoring is why we have forwards. Well, scoring is why every other team has forwards. For the Blues, I am not so sure of that.

 

[VoluntaryDom]

I'll take a defenseman who is amazing in his own end and can chip in on offense occasionally every single time. Scoring is why we have forwards. Well, scoring is why every other team has forwards. For the Blues, I am not so sure of that.

For sure, I think Parayko is a top 20 dman league wide. He just could become top 10 if he improves his offense. He doesn’t have to though he’s already awesome.

 

[Boxscore]

Yeah, the Blues and Flyers don't need shakeup trades lol.

6-0 and 6-1.

 

[67Blues]

Yeah, the Blues and Flyers don't need shakeup trades lol.

6-0 and 6-1.

Blues need a coaching/staff change. Removing Yeo and keeping the rest of the staff, of whom the defensive coach is in his first year, and Ott is in his second is absolutely a recipe for continuing the disaster that is the Blues team. Get a new coach and staff and then they can address which players will be here next year. Expecting anything different than Yeo hockey is setting you up for disappointment.

 

[Boxscore]

Blues need a coaching/staff change. Removing Yeo and keeping the rest of the staff, of whom the defensive coach is in his first year, and Ott is in his second is absolutely a recipe for continuing the disaster that is the Blues team. Get a new coach and staff and then they can address which players will be here next year. Expecting anything different than Yeo hockey is setting you up for disappointment.

I'm a Flyers fan and I can relate. However, I think blaming just the coach is naive, just as it is with the Flyers. We all can't stand Hakstol either, but at what point do the players need to be held accountable?

 

[67Blues]

I'm a Flyers fan and I can relate. However, I think blaming just the coach is naive, just as it is with the Flyers. We all can't stand Hakstol either, but at what point do the players need to be held accountable?

Yeo decided to go back and employ a defensive scheme that hasn't worked since the late 90s. The players are confused, miss assignments, and are generally playing as individuals in his scheme and it shows. When they play as a team, they play better, but then if they make a mistake, Berube benches them or sends them to the press box. This team is so mentally fragile, they have lost the game before the drop of the puck. There is zero confidence on this team and it shows. One goal down and the entire bench slumps down and rolls over.

 

[Starat327]

Yeo decided to go back and employ a defensive scheme that hasn't worked since the late 90s. The players are confused, miss assignments, and are generally playing as individuals in his scheme and it shows. When they play as a team, they play better, but then if they make a mistake, Berube benches them or sends them to the press box. This team is so mentally fragile, they have lost the game before the drop of the puck. There is zero confidence on this team and it shows. One goal down and the entire bench slumps down and rolls over.

It sounds like the blues, and not the Kings, are flyers west now.

 

[Puckstuff]

Blues need scoring, Leafs offer:

Nylander
Brown
1st round pick

 

[stl76]

Blues need scoring, Leafs offer:

Nylander
Brown
1st round pick

Oh wow, this is such a novel idea. Wonder why nobody has ever thought of this before...

 

[Puckstuff]

Oh wow, this is such a novel idea. Wonder why nobody has ever thought of this before...

so what would it take? Is he available?

 

[Colt55]

I'm a Flyers fan and I can relate. However, I think blaming just the coach is naive, just as it is with the Flyers. We all can't stand Hakstol either, but at what point do the players need to be held accountable?

Yeah I agree butvtrading your best players for spare parts or a bunch of lesser players is asinine. Not saying you are making those offers but that's what the majority of offers people are asking for. It's getting tiresome. Blues are not trading parayko or petro. Unless an offer that can't be turned down.

 

[Colt55]

so what would it take? Is he available?

Right now nothing. Nothing at all.

 

[stl76]

so what would it take? Is he available?

Seriously, go read any one of the 18 threads created by leafs fans in the past 2 weeks trying to trade for him.

Safe to say he is unavailable for anything leafs fans are willing to give up.

 

[Colt55]

Blues need scoring, Leafs offer:

Nylander
Brown
1st round pick

Get rid of brown and add liljgren

 

[Boxscore]

Yeah I agree butvtrading your best players for spare parts or a bunch of lesser players is asinine. Not saying you are making those offers but that's what the majority of offers people are asking for. It's getting tiresome. Blues are not trading parayko or petro. Unless an offer that can't be turned down.

Voracek and Gostisbehere are spare parts?

 

[BleedBlue14]

Blues need scoring, Leafs offer:

Nylander
Brown
1st round pick

Blues also need defense.