GDT: Panthers vs. Lightning - 12/1/18

[MintyFresh88]

So we’ve collected 6/10 points on the home stand thus far. I said we needed 12/16 total, so now we gotta win 3 straight to close it out which we know isn’t happening...I guess 4 more points out of 6 wouldn’t be the worst result.

 

[Beezeral]

On gtg Petrovic wasn’t trying to give the puck to reimer. He was trying to circle the net and ring the puck around the boards but got his stick lifted. Reimer kicked it out front and the rest is history. Also. Bleep you refs.

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Before the game I would have been happy for the one point against Tampa. Didn't know we'd be up three and still lose but it doesn't surprise me at all

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Look back at the game log, he was awful in october.898, awful in november .865 great in december .932, bad in january .900, awful in february .854, great in march .941

He's actually having a better start than last season, the issue he's having is that he's playing more so peoplerealizedjust how awful a start to the season he's having once again.

Disagree though because last year the Panthers defense was a trainwreck until February. It's league average now and they're still getting the worst goaltending in the league. Reimer legitimately cannot move laterally.

Reimer has the Cam Ward out of positioning style where you think it's a hard attempt but in reality it's a pretty routine save. For example that Joseph goal: cross crease is a million miles away and he's flat on his stomach, most goalies just slide across and save that.

 

[FrolikFan67]

With how Reimer moves you’d think he’s the 39 year old goaltender on the team. Can’t believe how horrendous he is. Another game, another 3+ goals (another 4+ goals). If scoring 3 or 4+ goals every game is a requirement then this season is toast. And I don’t see him “returning to average”, I don’t see him recovering.

So annoying when Domingue, who doesn’t have good numbers, he actually almost had the same as Reimer so that’s saying something. He played bad today, but you look at his record and it’s actually good. Just like with korpisalo. We don’t have that luxury, we can’t win despite terrible goaltending, we require some decency in net, and if there’s no change, or Luongo can’t miraculously remain healthy AND play well, then this is another lost season like all the rest

 

[letsgrowcactus]

Who's a realistic option to get now? Howard?

I wish but IIRC it was reported that Detroit asked for a 1st or a quality prospect. With the Pens and Blues looking for a goalie as well the price is high.
I wonder if we could build something around Malgin+pick? Still think kid could become a second line guy but IMO he needs some AHL time and then opportunity. Of course we only have 4th-7th round picks this year (not counting our 1st which could be a top3 pick so off limits).

 

[Mogo]

Säteri wa stupid to leave us. He should known Luo will have problems and he would gotten a real chance to fight for a starter spot here

 

[PSLguy]

Watching the replay now and the third oeriop it looks like the Panthers are killing a powerplay when both teams are at even strength.

Tampa's forecheck kept the Panthers pinned in their zone and they had no real response.

Coaching issue?

 

[IceManCat]

Can we please stop sitting kiselevich? Is he hurt or something?

Anyone know what’s going on here ?

 

[PBPantherfan]

Watching the replay now and the third oeriop it looks like the Panthers are killing a powerplay when both teams are at even strength.

Tampa's forecheck kept the Panthers pinned in their zone and they had no real response.

Coaching issue?

Definately Cooper gets to coach that roster and Boughner gets to coach ours.

 

[jvr32]

Reimer was terrible last year too and it was very obvious to some here. His numbers started to get better when the team had nothing to lose. Luongo was much better and some thought Reimer could back him up lol. I don't know what hockey you were watching if you thought Reimer was good.

 

[Great8Cam]

Petro has to be traded. He is just plain horrible. That could be the shake up the team needs because he is well liked on the team. Also, if Reimer can’t be traded for a. Ouplemof water bottles then send him down. He is beyond horrible.

I blame the goalie coach for his and Luongo’s recent style of face planting and going head first for the puck. Dump Tallas ASAP because you don’t want him screwing with Monty. Bring Monty up and see what happens. It can’t be worse than this. Luongo will be back, until the next injury.

Remove those three people and they should do well

 

[Ghoste]

Watching the replay now and the third oeriop it looks like the Panthers are killing a powerplay when both teams are at even strength.

Tampa's forecheck kept the Panthers pinned in their zone and they had no real response.

Coaching issue?

I'll have to peep it again but yeah Tampa's pressure game was there all night. But it did seem in the 3rd like we got some good scoring opps on Domingue but he kept them in it. Think we had 14 shots?

-ghoste

 

[RainingRats]

Watching the replay now and the third oeriop it looks like the Panthers are killing a powerplay when both teams are at even strength.

Tampa's forecheck kept the Panthers pinned in their zone and they had no real response.

Coaching issue?

I think this is the normal ebb and flow of hockey. We had plenty of high quality chances and sustained pressure too.

 

[RainingRats]

Petro has to be traded. He is just plain horrible. That could be the shake up the team needs because he is well liked on the team. Also, if Reimer can’t be traded for a. Ouplemof water bottles then send him down. He is beyond horrible.

I blame the goalie coach for his and Luongo’s recent style of face planting and going head first for the puck. Dump Tallas ASAP because you don’t want him screwing with Monty. Bring Monty up and see what happens. It can’t be worse than this. Luongo will be back, until the next injury.

Remove those three people and they should do well

Yup. Agree with this.

Petro's decline is unfortunate but it's too obvious to ignore. My guess is they like his "toughness" in the lineup and probably has been told to be physical. He's really the only "physical" d-man we have. Those two adjectives are in quotes for a reason. I'm sure a team would happily take him as there are plenty of old school GMs who would overrate him.

 

[FrolikFan67]

Yup. Agree with this.

Petro's decline is unfortunate but it's too obvious to ignore. My guess is they like his "toughness" in the lineup and probably has been told to be physical. He's really the only "physical" d-man we have. Those two adjectives are in quotes for a reason. I'm sure a team would happily take him as there are plenty of old school GMs who would overrate him.

Unfortunately Tallon is an old school gm who probably overrates him. I honestly doubt Tallon will trade him (which is both ridiculous and unfortunate, Petro needs to go)

 

[PBPantherfan]

The thing that kills me with Petro is he gets the puck and then just slowly skates around until somebody comes and takes it from him .

 

[WaitingForThatCab]

Yup. Agree with this.

Petro's decline is unfortunate but it's too obvious to ignore. My guess is they like his "toughness" in the lineup and probably has been told to be physical. He's really the only "physical" d-man we have. Those two adjectives are in quotes for a reason. I'm sure a team would happily take him as there are plenty of old school GMs who would overrate him.

Kiselevich throws the body around. It's such an obvious switch. You take #6 out of the lineup for #55 and you instantly replace a bad player with a competent one, and you don't even have to screw with the defensive pairings, since you have them both paired with Weegar right now. No brainer.

 

[23YearsandCounting]

Watching the replay now and the third oeriop it looks like the Panthers are killing a powerplay when both teams are at even strength.

Tampa's forecheck kept the Panthers pinned in their zone and they had no real response.

Coaching issue?

Culture of losing issue.

 

[FinlandPanther]

Culture of losing issue.

Jakey always finds a way lol.

 

[KW]

I think this is the normal ebb and flow of hockey. We had plenty of high quality chances and sustained pressure too.

No, we were dominated for most of the game. First period, we had 3 shots. If Tampa had done that to us while we got 14, people would have descended onto Boughner between periods demanding Reimer’s head. This thread would have exploded.

Having said that, don’t worry, Reimer sucked anyway. (Domingue sucked more though until the last 5-6 minutes.)

 

[IceManCat]

Also look to Rob Tallas. He is working with these goalies and he should be fired. Reimer and Luongo do the head first dive crap when the puck is coming. Nice guy but he has to go as well.

I always thought Rob Tallas was here because Luongo wants him as the goalie coach

 

[RainingRats]

No, we were dominated for most of the game. First period, we had 3 shots. If Tampa had done that to us while we got 14, people would have descended onto Boughner between periods demanding Reimer’s head. This thread would have exploded.

Having said that, don’t worry, Reimer sucked anyway. (Domingue sucked more though until the last 5-6 minutes.)

1) he was talking about the third period which I responded to
2) he was talking about it being a coaching issue
3) my reply wasn't about the entire game

 

[RainingRats]

Kiselevich throws the body around. It's such an obvious switch. You take #6 out of the lineup for #55 and you instantly replace a bad player with a competent one, and you don't even have to screw with the defensive pairings, since you have them both paired with Weegar right now. No brainer.

don't disagree but Kiselevich is not going to fight and doesn't play a chippy game like Petro. I agree with you. Petro should be traded

 

[Great8Cam]

I always thought Rob Tallas was here because Luongo wants him as the goalie coach

Tallas was here before Luongo returned, I believe.

Luongo had demanded another goalie coach before they sent him packing off to Vancouver.

 

[FinlandPanther]

don't disagree but Kiselevich is not going to fight and doesn't play a chippy game like Petro. I agree with you. Petro should be traded

Kis plays pretty damn chippy. I think he’s better at it than petro actually becuase he can skate.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

The thing that kills me with Petro is he gets the puck and then just slowly skates around until somebody comes and takes it from him .

Yup. That's what he does. The thing is, it's a combination of having bad decision making ability, and thinking he's the second coming of Bobby Orr.