Value of: Pacioretty: Sign and Trade

[Beezeral]

Not sure how you come up with close value when considering age, production, position, size.
Edit: and contract
And lets not forget you are adding a first. They dont do it 1-1.

its an easy no with the 1st attached imo.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Not sure how you come up with close value when considering age, production, position, size.
Edit: and contract
And lets not forget you are adding a first. They dont do it 1-1.

No way the Habs trade Patch for Bjugstad 1/1. But hey, you never know with Bergevin in his "re-tool". What I do know, is our fan base would not make that trade.

 

[Gandalf The Habs Fan]

What??? Habs were not contending in 07-08 ( got Tanguay in June 08) when they finished first with 104 pts and then second 08-09?

Please check your facts.

Did not check your Carolina stuff...

As a habs fan, I never see my team contending. During summer, you dont know if you will contend. Sens were close to a stanley cup final last year and now they finished 30th. You just try to put the best team on the ice and hope it will work

 

[PKWeber]

I could see a bjugstad for Patches deal happening in a vacuum. However, Bjugstad is a Tallon darling so moving him will be torture for Tallon. Assuming Tallon is willing to do the deal, I highly doubt the Panthers are stapling their 1st as well.

He's a 26 year old top 6 player on a solid contract imo the value is pretty close for a 30 year old patches on an expiring deal

Would you guys do Patches+3rd overall+2nd round pick for Huberdeau?

 

[HabsForHire]

Would you guys do Patches+3rd overall+2nd round pick for Huberdeau?

No freaking way do the habs do that hubs is not worth that much

 

[Beezeral]

Would you guys do Patches+3rd overall+2nd round pick for Huberdeau?

no.

 

[Colt55]

I understand but I think if a GM think Pacioretty can make his team better and if they are in need of a very good winger.

I guess a GM will want to trade for him even if he is not contending...Habs were not contending when they traded for Tanguay...Calorina too when they traded for Jordan Staal. You make trade when you think you will have a better team.

As long as it doesnt effect you in the long run. If they know they are going to get a better player in 2 years for 6 years and possibly after for free then why would you jeopardize that for a short term gain and a long term loss. Its a gamble. I personally wouldnt make that move unles my team was already a contender and was going after the cup.

 

[hockeyguy1967]

Bob Staufer of the Edmonton Journal is tossing around that the Oilers and the Habs are talking Patches. No mention of for who or what?

Patches would be smart to Demand a trade to Edmonton. He would put up a ton of Points playing with McDavid in a contract year.

 

[Beige Van]

Not as good as a JVR who is essentially free outside of a contract and no assets. And JVR >>> Patches by a huge huge margin.

That's such a hot take, I think I'll grill my New York striploin over it.

 

[Beige Van]

no.

How about Edward Wittchow and a 2019 3rd? If I didn't see Pacioretty play, that's the return I'd think he'd get judging by some of the comments here.

 

[Beezeral]

Every Patches trade thread.

Habs fan: Patches is a 35-40 goal scorer. 1st round pick and an "A" prospect gets it done.

Almost every non-Habs fan: Patches is 30 years old, coming off a bad season, and needs a new contract. You aren't getting a 1st and an "A" level prospect for him.

Habs fan: Some variation of...

How about Edward Wittchow and a 2019 3rd? If I didn't see Pacioretty play, that's the return I'd think he'd get judging by some of the comments here.

every time

 

[Beige Van]

Every Patches trade thread.

Habs fan: Patches is a 35-40 goal scorer. 1st round pick and an "A" prospect gets it done.

Almost every non-Habs fan: Patches is 30 years old, coming off a bad season, and needs a new contract. You aren't getting a 1st and an "A" level prospect for him.

Habs fan: Some variation of...




every time

Most reasonable Habs fans aren't expecting a 1st and a blue chip prospect. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a 1st in the 15-25 range and a b level prospect. Even a 2019 first. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. Should be an interesting thread to revisit..

 

[Beezeral]

Most reasonable Habs fans aren't expecting a 1st and a blue chip prospect. But I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a 1st in the 15-25 range and a b level prospect. Even a 2019 first. I guess we'll have to see how it plays out. Should be an interesting thread to revisit..

then why when you go through all of these threads are there asks for teams top prospect?

 

[Beige Van]

then why when you go through all of these threads are there asks for teams top prospect?

Thus the "reasonable" disclaimer in my original post..

 

[MSSLYNX]

then why when you go through all of these threads are there asks for teams top prospect?

A few of the "loose" ones do post often! They rinse and repeat a whole lot. Lots of Habs fans simply want it to be dealt with before next season. New captain.

 

[voxel]

Like the JVR threads, my prediction is Patches walks for nothing next offseason.

 

[Runner77]

I could see a bjugstad for Patches deal happening in a vacuum. However, Bjugstad is a Tallon darling so moving him will be torture for Tallon. Assuming Tallon is willing to do the deal, I highly doubt the Panthers are stapling their 1st as well.

He's a 26 year old top 6 player on a solid contract imo the value is pretty close for a 30 year old patches on an expiring deal

No thanks. Habs don't need another third line center.

 

[Scott Stevens]

“Sign and trade”: not a thing that happens in hockey

 

[Runner77]

If no sign and trade is possible, he'll be moved at the trading deadline. The Habs can't afford to sign him to an extension, so they'll get whatever the going price is for a rental.