Value of: Pacioretty: Sign and Trade
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Leon Lucius Black
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His value would be significantly less if he signed a $7M contract for 8 years...
After last year that's scary who the heck wants a guy till he is 38 7 million. I'm afraid he will only get 3-4 years 6mil after last year
- Jun 24, 2012
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Why???? Let the club trading for him, figure out a deal -- no need to saddle them with a contract they may not agree with.
WingsOverAvs
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im inclined to agree. Serious questions regarding his on ice play as well as his presence in the locker room. IF I were to take a chance on him, it would have to be as a short term UFA (which has almost no chance of happening).
Jumptheshark
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If theres one way to lower his value. This is it.
SingnBluesOnBroadway
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We are sinking to new depths, on a weekly basis. What more can be added.
67Blues
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I would recommend starting to add itching powder onto his pads because by year 3 of that contract, you'll pray he has developed an allergy to his equipment.
Would Montreal be happy with a first rounder 20-30 range and decent prospect? Kind of what the Bruins gave up for Nash (minus spooner).
The Blues got Brouwer, Copley, and a 3rd for Oshie, but not as a sign-and-trade. Max has had 5 30-goal seasons to Oshie's 1 and generally had a few more points overall in each season. Someone will pay Patches--whether Montreal reaps the benefits of that extension is another question altogether. What comparable 1-year or FA wingers are available this offseason? JvR?
Sign and trades don't happen. Montreal needs to bite the bullet and try to salvage a quality center prospect with a few decent picks. The time to trade him was at the deadline. A hot streak next season isn't going to magically boost his trade value.
My suggestion is offering him up to Philadelphia and targeting German Rubtsov. He's a quality two-way prospect who's about to play in the Memorial Cup. The Flyers are poised to take a step forward next summer and are in the hunt for a top six LW. The Habs could even improve that return value if they were willing to take back Jori Lehtera for next season to offset the salary cost for the Flyers. Add a conditional 2020 1st if he re-signs and be done with it.
My suggestion is offering him up to Philadelphia and targeting German Rubtsov. He's a quality two-way prospect who's about to play in the Memorial Cup. The Flyers are poised to take a step forward next summer and are in the hunt for a top six LW. The Habs could even improve that return value if they were willing to take back Jori Lehtera for next season to offset the salary cost for the Flyers. Add a conditional 2020 1st if he re-signs and be done with it.
That kind of contract doesn't add value.
A 38 year old Pacioretty getting $7 mil. Yikes.
A 38 year old Pacioretty getting $7 mil. Yikes.
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Yeah Brower had 1 good playoff run. Copley was a bust and the third.
Habs Halifax
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Patch is worth around $6M - $6.5M range. 5 or 6 years. Radulov contract is a good comparison.
In a sign and trade. Let the other team pre negotiate.
In a sign and trade. Let the other team pre negotiate.
go4hockey
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If he was signed to that deal I would not want him at all. No worse way to kill your teams cap then to sign a 30 y/o winger to big money for long term.
Habs Halifax
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For what it’s worth, 8 years after next season puts Patch at age 38. I doubt he gets the 8 year deal anyways
Kudo Shinichi
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No because Pacioretty >>> Nash.
What I would want is a mid 1st rounder (11th to 15th) and a good prospect (ex: Heponiemi or Tippett)
With that contract, you likely dont even have to wait til 39. I'd say 33- 35 or so, max.
Habs Halifax
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Oshie just got 8 years at $5.75 at age 31. Patch for 8 years at $7M is a stretch. No team gives him this. Maybe if he scores 40+ goals and 80 pts next year but the idea is he signs before this next season right?
5 or 6 years at $6.5M max. 5 years at $6M would be a fair deal IMO
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The timing is a bit off for a Pacioretty trade. He can't be extended before the draft, so any team trading for him before the draft is trading for 1 year of him. Even after the draft, unless the team gives him a contract he can't refuse, he's probably doesn't have that much incentive to sign vs. going to UFA. Also, on 7/1, when a team could negotiate with him, they can also try to sign current UFAs.
At the deadline, teams know a lot more about where their pick will be in 2019 and when know what they need to get them over the hump or make them a contender, so I think there will be a lot more potential to move him at the deadline than this off-season.
Just curious, are there many trades in the off-season of high profile guys that only have 1 year left until they are a UFA? I'm sure it happens, I just can't think of many instances off of the top of my head.
At the deadline, teams know a lot more about where their pick will be in 2019 and when know what they need to get them over the hump or make them a contender, so I think there will be a lot more potential to move him at the deadline than this off-season.
Just curious, are there many trades in the off-season of high profile guys that only have 1 year left until they are a UFA? I'm sure it happens, I just can't think of many instances off of the top of my head.
Fair enough was just curious what Montreal fans felt he was worth at this point. Will be interesting to see what he's gonna bring back
Your not getting that. No team is willing to give up a top 20 pick for 1 year of a guy who just had 17 goals 37 points. Good luck with that.
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