Bob Mckenzie is on the nhl network saying that the habs are offering Subban 2.75 million
Dustin Leed @D_LEED
Dustin Leed @D_LEED
Between this and Eller, this team is looking like a joke.
What is this...
Bob Mckenzie is on the nhl network saying that the habs are offering Subban 2.75 million
Dustin Leed @D_LEED
Dustin Leed @D_LEED
Between this and Eller, this team is looking like a joke.
Two things:
2) If it's true, god help this franchise
I dont think thats a bad thing.
-On his 2nd NHL contract Carey Price received a 2 years deal. With a 2.75M$ cap hit.
-Once this 2nd contract ended, Bergevin offered him a 6 years deal at 6.5M$.
-On his 2nd NHL contract Max Pacioretty received a 2 years deal. With a 1.625M$ cap hit.
-Once this 2nd contract ended, Bergevin offered him a 6 years deal at 4.5M$.
Pk Subban is no different the our two other young star players. Price and Pacman both had a bridge contract. Without them, the team would suffer. If Subban would accept 2.75M$ for the next two year, we would have better possibilites with the UFAs and to give that extra money to other players. Thats what you call 'taking one for the team'. Pacioretty and Price did it. Subban can do it also.
Even if they end up half-way at, lets say, 3.5M$ for two years. It would be good.
My real life job is to negociate big amout of money. And I much rather have Bergevin holding up a little bit to maximize the money he gives. Then, accepting whatever Meehan's resquest, because he's scared. Thats how you end up with Gomez/Kaberle/Bourque/Gionta/Cammalleri's contracts. And with how this situation is going right now, I see a DG who won't do the same mistakes, we've seen in the past. And thats a good thing.
Yeah, it would be better to have PK on the team. But it would be better to have PK on the team with a 3.5M$ cap hit, then a 6M$ cap hit. So time, is the best venue for Bergevin.
Two things...
#1 - There's a disconnect between what the Habs are offering PK Subban (2.75M) and how they use him (#1 dman, 25+ mins a game).
#2 - If he does end up signing this ridiculous deal, they're going to have to REALLY overpay to keep him 2 years from now.
1- Carey Price was our starter when he accepted his 2.75M$ deal. Subban is our number one d-man. Both were as much important as the other.
1- Carey Price was our starter when he accepted his 2.75M$ deal. Subban is our number one d-man. Both were as much important as the other.
2- Subban's next contract will be around 6-7M$ per year if he keeps developping like he is. And thats okay. But right now, hes comming off, his first pro contract. Hes not UFA, hes not a superstar -yet-. He can developp and become one, thats a sure thing. But right now, he should do exactcly what Price did. Take one for the team. Accept the 2 years offer, and later you'll be rewarded. But as of now, kiddo, you're not receiving any money, and you're not improving your stats for your next contract, cause you're sitting home. I understand 2.75M$ is under what Subban is really worth on the market, EVERYBODY know it. But thats the way to go, to have the best possible team. Player that likes their city and their team, often accept to have less, for their team.
I dont think thats a bad thing.
-On his 2nd NHL contract Carey Price received a 2 years deal. With a 2.75M$ cap hit.
-Once this 2nd contract ended, Bergevin offered him a 6 years deal at 6.5M$.
-On his 2nd NHL contract Max Pacioretty received a 2 years deal. With a 1.625M$ cap hit.
-Once this 2nd contract ended, Bergevin offered him a 6 years deal at 4.5M$.
Pk Subban is no different the our two other young star players. Price and Pacman both had a bridge contract. Without them, the team would suffer. If Subban would accept 2.75M$ for the next two year, we would have better possibilites with the UFAs and to give that extra money to other players. Thats what you call 'taking one for the team'. Pacioretty and Price did it. Subban can do it also.
Even if they end up half-way at, lets say, 3.5M$ for two years. It would be good.
My real life job is to negociate big amout of money. And I much rather have Bergevin holding up a little bit to maximize the money he gives. Then, accepting whatever Meehan's resquest, because he's scared. Thats how you end up with Gomez/Kaberle/Bourque/Gionta/Cammalleri's contracts. And with how this situation is going right now, I see a DG who won't do the same mistakes, we've seen in the past. And thats a good thing.
Yeah, it would be better to have PK on the team. But it would be better to have PK on the team with a 3.5M$ cap hit, then a 6M$ cap hit. So time, is the best venue for Bergevin.
1- Carey Price was our starter when he accepted his 2.75M$ deal. Subban is our number one d-man. Both were as much important as the other.
2- Subban's next contract will be around 6-7M$ per year if he keeps developping like he is. And thats okay. But right now, hes comming off, his first pro contract. Hes not UFA, hes not a superstar -yet-. He can developp and become one, thats a sure thing. But right now, he should do exactcly what Price did. Take one for the team. Accept the 2 years offer, and later you'll be rewarded. But as of now, kiddo, you're not receiving any money, and you're not improving your stats for your next contract, cause you're sitting home. I understand 2.75M$ is under what Subban is really worth on the market, EVERYBODY know it. But thats the way to go, to have the best possible team. Player that likes their city and their team, often accept to have less, for their team. Subban wants what? 5M$? Bergevin is offering him exactly what Price received which is almost the half. One day, when both parties will be tired to wait, they'll probably resolve it in between at 3.75M$.
Two things:
1) If McKenzie says it, it's probably true, or close to the truth
2) If it's true, god help this franchise
Pacioretty was not used in a #1 role or had significant impact before his bridge contract.
Price was not used as a #1 goalie before his bridge contract.
-Pacioretty u're right, that's why he got 1.65M$ and not 2.75M$.
-Price was used as a #1 goalie before his bridge contract, for two years. Its not because Halak stole his job during one playoff stunt, that this erased what he'd done before.
We all understand the concept about PK playing lot of minutes last year. But he also needs to understand that he's comming off hes ELC contract.
THATS NEGOCIATION. Bergevin's offering 2.75M$ exactly the same ammount as Carey received. Meehan's probably asking for 5M$. If neither is moving. What do you think is going on? Nothing. One day, one of the party will ask the other if they can solve it in the middle, and they will. Thats HOW you make the best business decision. You DEAL.
Subban wont have a problem with the organisation. And the organisation wont have a problem with Subban. Thats how the NHL works.
Subban is better than:
Alexander Edler who just signed a 6-year, $30-million deal
and
Alex Pietrangelo at $3.16-million
and
Marc-Edouard Vlasic $3.1-million
I am aghast.
-Pacioretty u're right, that's why he got 1.65M$ and not 2.75M$.
-Price was used as a #1 goalie before his bridge contract, for two years. Its not because Halak stole his job during one playoff stunt, that this erased what he'd done before.
We all understand the concept about PK playing lot of minutes last year. But he also needs to understand that he's comming off hes ELC contract.
THATS NEGOCIATION. Bergevin's offering 2.75M$ exactly the same ammount as Carey received. Meehan's probably asking for 5M$. If neither is moving. What do you think is going on? Nothing. One day, one of the party will ask the other if they can solve it in the middle, and they will. Thats HOW you make the best business decision. You DEAL. Subban wont have a problem with the organisation. And the organisation wont have a problem with Subban. Thats how the NHL works.