Out of Town - Who's your team during these Playoffs

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Bryson

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What we're seeing with Eller now is what I expect to see when/if Galchenyuk is eventually traded. At this point half the fanbase (more?) is dismissing him as a player who was never legitimate top-3 pick, who is clueless in his own zone, etc. However, given a good coach and a good environment he has a good prospect of emerging as a two-way forward with ~70-point production.

Radulov was nothing more than a 54 point declining player they said... it seems like getting traded away from the Habs is the rejuvenating fountain of yourh.
 

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I watched him play for years. 30 points every year. Now every time he records a point this thread is full of people drooling over him. And in the end he just has 38. There’s a weird obsession with Eller ever since he was a Hab that he was capable of more than 30 a season. Now he’s on an elite team and it’s just 8 more points. I find it hilarious and people can’t let it go.

This thread has commentary whenever Subban, Radulov, Eller, Sergachev, DeBrincat, etc do well as they are all examples of the ineptitude of Bergevin. Further, they are also examples of the blindness of his defenders who undermined discussion on these boards for years with comments like "Subban is a PP specialist," and "Eller has no vision."

The Habs most critical offensive move when Bergevin started was abundantly obvious. Develop Galchenyuk and Eller as top two centres. They failed at that which was defended by all of the sycophants, and now the team is the 5th worst in the league.

It's all about catharsis.

FYI this would be an effective roster:

Pacioretty-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Lehkonen-Eller-Gallagher
The rest

Subban-Sergachev
The rest
 

Bryson

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Pretty much this. The sight of PK taking the Cup to the Kids hospital in Montreal will a) force the various media types who sided with MT and Bergy and went along with the PK = bad storyline to sick it b) will turn the temperature up 1000 degrees on Simple Marc and his enabler the trust fund baby.

If not Nashville, then Jets or Washington.

Nashville by a country mile all day every day.

Subban taking the Cup to the Children's hospital will be the closest Montreal will get to seeing the Cup within the next quarter century. Plus I want Bergevin to go down in a ball of fire!

Washington in the east because Eller and Ovi.

Vegas for Gerard Gallant and nice Cinderella story.

Winnipeg and Toronto because Canadian teams.
 

Bryson

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Its not, 30 other teams in the NHL have had at least one season with more wins than Toronto has ever had in a season. Including Vegas.

Toronto has won the Cup 13 times. That would mean that they got less wins than they have now in each of those seasons.
 

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The last time the Leafs won the cup, the regular season was 70 games and there were no shoot-outs.
Exactly. How many wins would the 77 Habs have got if there had been overtime and shoot-out's? With those advantages they might have gone undefeated instead of "only" winning 60 while losing 8 and tying 12.

The Leafs still haven't won more than 2 playoff series in a single season and they've never won 16 playoff games in a season. Those are the only stats that really count. It's pathetic that: A) it took them this long to break their franchise win record and that B) their franchise win record was only 45 to begin with. The Habs had non-Cup-winning seasons with more wins than that.
 

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Its not, 30 other teams in the NHL have had at least one season with more wins than Toronto has ever had in a season. Including Vegas.

Yeah, it's an inflated record now with loser points, it's no slight on the Maple Leafs at all.
 

Captain Mountain

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Yeah, it's an inflated record now with loser points, it's no slight on the Maple Leafs at all.

Its definitely not a slight. They're just getting started and will be great for years to come. But they've been trash for a while before now and this specific record isn't worth getting excited about.
 
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Laurentide

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Leafs fan is easily excited. A 3 game win streak is enough to get them planning a parade. They had a rally at City Hall in 93 when the Leafs made it to the conference finals (and lost, of course)

Can you imagine any other Original 6 team having a rally for anything less than a Cup victory? Neither can I.
 

The Gr8 Dane

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Leafs fan is easily excited. A 3 game win streak is enough to get them planning a parade. They had a rally at City Hall in 93 when the Leafs made it to the conference finals (and lost, of course)

Can you imagine any other Original 6 team having a rally for anything less than a Cup victory? Neither can I.

Are you serious? Do you live in Montreal?You act like we don't plan the parade every year
 

Laurentide

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Are you serious? Do you live in Montreal?You act like we don't plan the parade every year

Some in Montreal do but not as many drink the Kool-Aid there as they do in Toronto. And anyway we aren't talking about merely planning a parade we're talking about a city that had an ACTUAL parade (or a rally in this case) for a team that failed to even make it to the Finals, never mind not win them. No other Original 6 team would hold a rally for ALMOST making it to the Finals.
 

Bryson

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Leafs fan is easily excited. A 3 game win streak is enough to get them planning a parade. They had a rally at City Hall in 93 when the Leafs made it to the conference finals (and lost, of course)

Can you imagine any other Original 6 team having a rally for anything less than a Cup victory? Neither can I.

You mean like Habs fans? When fans rallied infront of the Bell center to get an anglophone coach fired? Like the saying goes, don't throw stones inside a glass house!

Plenty here were drinking the Bergevin and Therrien Kool-Aid for years. This is the first year in recent memory Habs fans are not planning a parade because that's how bad Bergevin has been! Both MTL and TO are the same and have their share of delusional fans, don't kid yourself.
 

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Some in Montreal do but not as many drink the Kool-Aid there as they do in Toronto. And anyway we aren't talking about merely planning a parade we're talking about a city that had an ACTUAL parade (or a rally in this case) for a team that failed to even make it to the Finals, never mind not win them. No other Original 6 team would hold a rally for ALMOST making it to the Finals.

Our fans drink the koolaid just as bad. There’s people who thought we were contenders from 14-16, when we were nothing more then an average playoff team with a goalie playing at his peak. They have good young players and there’s hope again in Toronto for the first time for a long time so I don’t blame a big organization playing in a hockey mecha to be buying into what the media is trying to sell. We aren’t morally superior to them. Not at all.
 

BPD Habs Fan

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I generally don't pay attention to the playoffs when the Habs aren't in it but this year I started watching other teams and actually got entertained by watching hockey (who knew?). I'd like the following:

1) Toronto vs Winnipeg final - Don't want us to be able to use the excuse that we were the last Canadian team to win a cup as if that excuses our sucktitude.

2) Nashville vs Winnipeg - Think this would be a great series and I wouldn't be heartbroken to watch PK hoist a cup.
 
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Laurentide

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You mean like Habs fans? When fans rallied infront of the Bell center to get an anglophone coach fired? Like the saying goes, don't throw stones inside a glass house!

Plenty here were drinking the Bergevin and Therrien Kool-Aid for years. This is the first year in recent memory Habs fans are not planning a parade because that's how bad Bergevin has been! Both MTL and TO are the same and have their share of delusional fans, don't kid yourself.
A few hundred fans showing up outside the arena to protest something doesn't constitute a rally of the sort I was describing. Those things were spontaneous, disorganized and sparsely attended. The event in Toronto from 1993 that I referenced was a civic government-sponsored, team attended planned public event complete with street closures and added police and traffic control. That has only happened there. No place else.

The last organized team sponsored event the Habs ever had like that was the 93 Cup parade. Mini fan riots outside the Bell Centre after winning a first round series against Boston don't qualify. Those types of things happen everywhere.
 
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I watched him play for years. 30 points every year. Now every time he records a point this thread is full of people drooling over him. And in the end he just has 38. There’s a weird obsession with Eller ever since he was a Hab that he was capable of more than 30 a season. Now he’s on an elite team and it’s just 8 more points. I find it hilarious and people can’t let it go.

Do you see a lot of player playing 3rd line minutes with 3rd, 4th line players getting a lot of points?

Of course if you take numbers out of context, it doesn't look good. He was a 30pts because he was used to be a 30 pts player, which is the normal production of a 3rd C that doesn't play on the PP and let's be honest.. after the shortened season, Eller never really had good linemates to play with and boost his production. Playing with Prust, Sekac, DLR, DSP doesn't really help your production don't you think?

Danault hit 40 pts with Pacioretty and Radulov for a good part of last season and he got praised for that.

Eller's development has pretty much stopped now but I really believed he had the potential to be a good 2nd C in this league if we gave him the opportunity to play a more offensive role but we gave DD all those opportunities instead.
 
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The Great Weal

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Anyone hear what Ho Sang said? I mean he isn't wrong, but you don't say that publicly. Isles are dead last in the league for goals against.
 

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I know, I used gulp up all those national geographic documentaries like Eternal Enemies, showing the fights between lions and hyenas (hyenas are tough) or the predators hunting prey. These days (probably because I cherish life the closer I get to the end), I have a hard time seeing animals suffering. Like when a baby elefant albeit pretty large, gets eaten alive by lions.
I like the ones where new younger lions challenge older males in attempts to take over a pride, a rebuild if you will. Lions fight till there is no breath left in their bodies, quite a mean sob of a creature, I would love to own one.
 
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