Out of Town Thread VII

[SirClintonPortis]

Stupidity bores me

I take it that you concede since you haven't proven I'm stupid.

This conversation started with the comment from japhi that Weber is a first-ballot HOFer. He isn't. He does not impact the game that significantly. Scoring goals only impact the 15 or less games those goals are scored in. Passing and decision-making are present in every game even if no points are posted. Even a non-HOFer like Markov does more than Weber in those aspects of the game

Too bad you can't comprehend nuance.


The most recent inductees were Nicklas Lidstrom, Chris Pronger, and Scott Niedermayer. The next potential first ballot HOFer Dman is Erik Karlsson. Why? Because of the "tangible intangible" they have in controlling the game.

 

[ECWHSWI]

He busted.

how so ? he didnt even play...

 

[ECWHSWI]

I take it that you concede since you haven't proven I'm stupid.

This conversation started with the comment from japhi that Weber is a first-ballot HOFer. He isn't. He does not impact the game that significantly. Scoring goals only impact the 15 or less games those goals are scored in. Passing and decision-making are present in every game even if no points are posted. Even a non-HOFer like Markov does more than Weber in those aspects of the game

Too bad you can't comprehend nuance.


The most recent inductees were Nicklas Lidstrom, Chris Pronger, and Scott Niedermayer. The next potential first ballot HOFer Dman is Erik Karlsson. Why? Because of the "tangible intangible" they have in controlling the game.

He will be, he'll get to the HoF in his 1st year of eligibility.

Why ? reputation, Weber is exactly the type of D voters were cheering for when they were young. He is the perfection to them, The comments are always about his size, his hits and his shot... never about the influence he has in a game, never about his ability to tilt the ice. Theres always a good reason for him not to have success in the PO and there's always a good reason for the team he plays for not being so great during regular season.

 

[Kimota]

If trading PK didn't do it, if not signing Radu and Markov did not do it, if the big contracts to Price and Alzner didn't do it, I hope that if Scherback become a good NHL scorer that it will be the last straw to fire Bergevin.

 

[DXStriker]

Bruins Spanked the Leafs lol Even though its the Bruins , its always nice seeing the Leafs get spanked on National CBC appreciate the Leafs Night lol

 

[Doc McKenna]

LOL! WTF!

NHL wants to send a message about head hunting and ref abuse this would be it. You can't just hit a dude in the head then turn around and intentionally punch a ref straight in the face. This isn't 1976 anymore.

 

[Doc McKenna]

[tweet]

Everything seems to be a perfect fit for the leafs these days. The delusion is strong at Toronto SportsNet

 

[Doc McKenna]

Come on you can clearly see that much like a front end collision he had whiplash trauma from the sudden change in forward velocity. Could have been from the grassy knoll. The angle of the Shot clearly caused his head to move back and to the left.

 

[Doc McKenna]

Was a stupid deal from a desperate GM who had no centre depth

Stu Cowan: Matthew Peca fitting in with Canadiens in both languages

Well there is one good reason why he is on the team.

Karacter player I am sure!
Canadians sign former Lightning forward Matthew Peca - Sportsnet.ca

I mean he was signed before 12:23 on july 1st on a two year 2.6 million contract. We know the Habs never make mistakes on those early July 1st signings...Where is Alzner these days?

 

[Archijerej]

If trading PK didn't do it, if not signing Radu and Markov did not do it, if the big contracts to Price and Alzner didn't do it, I hope that if Scherback become a good NHL scorer that it will be the last straw to fire Bergevin.

Don't hold your breath.

 

[DAChampion]

In contrast, Gauthier, who looked like his nickname of Vegan Skeletor, had much less leash. He had a bad half-season after two successful seasons, and the entire city was in consensus that he should be fired, with the exception of one poster on this board.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I take it that you concede since you haven't proven I'm stupid.

This conversation started with the comment from japhi that Weber is a first-ballot HOFer. He isn't. He does not impact the game that significantly. Scoring goals only impact the 15 or less games those goals are scored in. Passing and decision-making are present in every game even if no points are posted. Even a non-HOFer like Markov does more than Weber in those aspects of the game

Too bad you can't comprehend nuance.


The most recent inductees were Nicklas Lidstrom, Chris Pronger, and Scott Niedermayer. The next potential first ballot HOFer Dman is Erik Karlsson. Why? Because of the "tangible intangible" they have in controlling the game.

Being able to play the game in your own end is a valuable commodity, but since you can't quantify it in numerical form, most people don't appreciate these days.

Is it shiny? No ? Then who cares?

That said, is he a first time ballot hall of Famer? Probably not unless the class is somewhat weak. Then again, how many d playing right now actually are ?

 

[ECWHSWI]

Being able to play the game in your own end is a valuable commodity, but since you can't quantify it in numerical form, most people don't appreciate these days.

Is it shiny? No ? Then who cares?

That said, is he a first time ballot hall of Famer? Probably not unless the class is somewhat weak. Then again, how many d playing right now actually are ?

Chara
(maybe) Keith and his 3 cups

 

[NeptunesTrident]

Chara
(maybe) Keith and his 3 cups

Doughty

 

[Forum93]

If trading PK didn't do it, if not signing Radu and Markov did not do it, if the big contracts to Price and Alzner didn't do it, I hope that if Scherback become a good NHL scorer that it will be the last straw to fire Bergevin.

Molson keeps taking the straws off MB's back, I think the only way he will be fired is if they miss the playoffs again, but even then I'm not that confident about it.

 

[Mrb1p]

Being able to play the game in your own end is a valuable commodity, but since you can't quantify it in numerical form, most people don't appreciate these days.

Is it shiny? No ? Then who cares?

That said, is he a first time ballot hall of Famer? Probably not unless the class is somewhat weak. Then again, how many d playing right now actually are ?

Chara, Karlsson, Doty, Webs, Subban are all first ballots.

 

[BLONG7]

Bruins Spanked the Leafs lol Even though its the Bruins , its always nice seeing the Leafs get spanked on National CBC appreciate the Leafs Night lol

The Leafs D needs help..........they do not play well in their own end, most nights...being a stacked team up front, will not do it in the playoffs.

 

[BLONG7]

Molson keeps taking the straws off MB's back, I think the only way he will be fired is if they miss the playoffs again, but even then I'm not that confident about it.

It seems hopeless, he has made so many mistakes, but then a good summer, and all of a sudden they are giving the guy another 50ft of rope....makes no sense...he should have been fired, when he wouldn't fire Therrien, and traded PK. Everyone knows it...except Money Mol$on.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Guys you guys are hard on bergy we are currently in a wild card spot give the man some credit the job is really hard, it’s not playstation comon all you armchair gm’s couldn’t do a better job or you would be employed instead of him comon job is hard cut the poor man some slack . Hey he got us JD you guys should be more grateful

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Chara
(maybe) Keith and his 3 cups

Doughty

Chara, Karlsson, Doty, Webs, Subban are all first ballots.

Of the ones listed likely Chara and maybe Keith. Karlsson because of shine. He put up points who really cares if he was sub par defensively ?

I say maybe Keith as, again depending on who he's against might miss.

Doughty is overrated and at this point I wouldn't put him in first ballot, but you never know.

Weber has been a steady force, but never won anything to increase his shine. Subban has a Norris trophy in a shortened season to give him some shine, but not enough I don't think.

Obviously based at this time in their careers.

 

[Le Barron de HF]

Doughty has a Norris, two Stanley Cups and plenty of international success. You can argue he's overrated, but he has a strong chance of making the HHOF. Not as a first ballot tho imo.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

In contrast, Gauthier, who looked like his nickname of Vegan Skeletor, had much less leash. He had a bad half-season after two successful seasons, and the entire city was in consensus that he should be fired, with the exception of one poster on this board.

He no longer posts here? I remember reading years ago before I signed up and was just a lurker, there was always one guy who hated everything Gainey, but loved everything Pierre Gauthier. I always found it to be a very odd take. I forget his take, something about marbles I think.

 

[thegoalie39]

Guys you guys are hard on bergy we are currently in a wild card spot give the man some credit the job is really hard, it’s not playstation comon all you armchair gm’s couldn’t do a better job or you would be employed instead of him comon job is hard cut the poor man some slack . Hey he got us JD you guys should be more grateful

Bergevin deserves credit.....credit for being a coward with no direction.....this is his 7th year as GM and not once has he tried to go all in and win the cup .....he needed to add to his core and fix his center ice position while you had Price having great years and while you had Subban and then Weber....nothing was done ...all other GM's have the courage to mortgage the future and go for it not Bergevin he will not go all in and try and win in the present and he will not tear it down and try to get top players in the draft for 2-3 years and win in the future.

 

[Rapala]

I don't know how we're winning games without DLR??

I don't know how we manage to get through the days when you don't post.

 

[Rapala]

habs in 2 years got rid of every russian in the organization
i dont think any are left in ahl ?

whats up with that

Must have been payback for a ransomware attack.