Out of Town thread. Part XX

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Habaneros

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How can they push a new Flames hockey arena through in Calgary, when this is happening...yikes..

Varcoe: Tax revolt erupts as Calgary businesses fed up with city hall


Taxes on a CIBC location at his property on 17th Avenue have risen 143 per cent, while the bill at another bank location on Macleod Trail soared 160 per cent.
At the location of a Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen outlet on 17th Avenue, municipal taxes skyrocketed to $152,169 this year — up 28 per cent in just 12 months, and a stunning 162 per cent increase since 2014.
Evans points out the fast-food outlet will be paying $416 in property taxes each and every day this year.
“We are absolutely in a tax revolt right now,” he said. “They are putting people out of business.”

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Kelly Doody is still reeling a week after she learned the property tax bill on the Calgary building where she operates her business is set to increase at the start of July from $1,356 to $6,425 a month.
Calgary’s small business community hit hard by double-digit property tax hike
 
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How can they push a new Flames hockey arena through in Calgary, when this is happening...yikes..

Varcoe: Tax revolt erupts as Calgary businesses fed up with city hall


Taxes on a CIBC location at his property on 17th Avenue have risen 143 per cent, while the bill at another bank location on Macleod Trail soared 160 per cent.
At the location of a Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen outlet on 17th Avenue, municipal taxes skyrocketed to $152,169 this year — up 28 per cent in just 12 months, and a stunning 162 per cent increase since 2014.
Evans points out the fast-food outlet will be paying $416 in property taxes each and every day this year.
“We are absolutely in a tax revolt right now,” he said. “They are putting people out of business.”

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Kelly Doody is still reeling a week after she learned the property tax bill on the Calgary building where she operates her business is set to increase at the start of July from $1,356 to $6,425 a month.
Calgary’s small business community hit hard by double-digit property tax hike

Holy crap, that’s brutal.
 

Whitesnake

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Just in case people think the Habs are the only team with what seems to be a good prospect pool....look at the Checkers who won the Calder Cup...Saarela, Necas, Roy, Fleury, Geekie, Bean, Kuokkanen, Luostarinen, Svechnikov, Drury....
 

Habaneros

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The Carey Price cup. .949 straight out of WHL


I've always said, ya don't need a 8 10 million goalie to win it all or the best goalie ...

Example this guy in St Louis ..LOOK AT HIS PATH
Jordan Binnington Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com


our Nemei...took the Hawks to a Cup win

Quick in LA won 2 STANLEY CUPS...His deal is 5.8 MILLION CAP HIT for 10 years

Cam Ward
JS Giguere
Chirs Osgood
Tim Thomas

None of those goalies will ever be considered best in the world

but they all won Cups ....
 
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Kriss E

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Just in case people think the Habs are the only team with what seems to be a good prospect pool....look at the Checkers who won the Calder Cup...Saarela, Necas, Roy, Fleury, Geekie, Bean, Kuokkanen, Luostarinen, Svechnikov, Drury....
A lot of Habs fans live in a bubble where only we can improve in the summer and we have the bestest of best prospects in the whole wide world..
 

donghabs98

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A lot of Habs fans live in a bubble where only we can improve in the summer and we have the bestest of best prospects in the whole wide world..
On the flip side, there's a segment who feel like the Habs cant improve at all in the summer while other teams can do no wrong. Neither mindset is right and shows the dangers of being too closed minded.
 

Kriss E

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On the flip side, there's a segment who feel like the Habs cant improve at all in the summer while other teams can do no wrong. Neither mindset is right and shows the dangers of being too closed minded.
I dont think its about the Habs not improving, it's about making the right improvements for the right goal.
 

the valiant effort

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Take it from someone who lives in Calgary: it’s an overrated ****hole microcosm of capitalism’s inevitable doom. Foresight, as a word, as an idea, as a necessity, does not exist in this province, never mind perennial “world’s 3rd most livable city”

I’m not angry or bitter though :sarcasm:
 
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On the flip side, there's a segment who feel like the Habs cant improve at all in the summer while other teams can do no wrong. Neither mindset is right and shows the dangers of being too closed minded.

I don't recall too many people saying the Habs can't improve? There are those who feel they won't improve and they haven't been proven wrong or close minded.
 

donghabs98

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I don't recall too many people saying the Habs can't improve? There are those who feel they won't improve and they haven't been proven wrong or close minded.
From my perspective it's a mix of people assuming other teams will become better than the Habs based on assumptions such as the effect of coaching changes and player development (ex: Buffalo and Florida). Its reasonable to assume that both teams will make stepe forward but I think its equally reasonable to assume the Habs could still improve too through player development or offseason moves (the latter is more unpredictable)
 
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The Habs definitely have a better prospect pool than Carolina. If Suzuki, Poehling, Brook, Romanov, Primeau and Ylönen were all in Laval, they would be competing for a championship.
 

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The Carey Price cup. .949 straight out of WHL

Amazes me that people can’t comprehend Price has won at just about every level he’s competed in except the NHL for obvious reasons. He takes the blame for this organizations failures. Instead of hiding behind him to have minimum success, we should’ve been doing our best to surround him with a team he could give us an advantage to getting a cup. If we were unable to give him a team who couldn’t be more then a pretender without him, he should’ve been traded. But this organization continues to live and die by him which is why he’s being paid that way. Similar to what NY did with Lundqvist. These guys took paycheques and legacy with one team over a chance to get the one award that what push them over the top when their careers are done. It’s sad, because Lundqvist and Price should be first ballots for the Hall of Fame years from now. But their teams held them back. Lundqvist has much more of a case then Price of now atleast.
 

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Buffalo Sabres Have Kicked Tires on Jason Zucker.

Wonder what it cost.

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JianYang

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How can they push a new Flames hockey arena through in Calgary, when this is happening...yikes..

Varcoe: Tax revolt erupts as Calgary businesses fed up with city hall


Taxes on a CIBC location at his property on 17th Avenue have risen 143 per cent, while the bill at another bank location on Macleod Trail soared 160 per cent.
At the location of a Popeyes Louisiana Kitchen outlet on 17th Avenue, municipal taxes skyrocketed to $152,169 this year — up 28 per cent in just 12 months, and a stunning 162 per cent increase since 2014.
Evans points out the fast-food outlet will be paying $416 in property taxes each and every day this year.
“We are absolutely in a tax revolt right now,” he said. “They are putting people out of business.”

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Kelly Doody is still reeling a week after she learned the property tax bill on the Calgary building where she operates her business is set to increase at the start of July from $1,356 to $6,425 a month.
Calgary’s small business community hit hard by double-digit property tax hike

The habs used to pay a very hefty municipal tax bill too, like it was insane. I think they eventually got it restructured under Gillette.

That might be one of the items on the table when working with the government on a new arena.
 

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I've always said, ya don't need a 8 10 million goalie to win it all or the best goalie ...

Example this guy in St Louis ..LOOK AT HIS PATH
Jordan Binnington Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com


our Nemei...took the Hawks to a Cup win

Quick in LA won 2 STANLEY CUPS...His deal is 5.8 MILLION CAP HIT for 10 years

Cam Ward
JS Giguere
Chirs Osgood
Tim Thomas

None of those goalies will ever be considered best in the world

but they all won Cups ....

You listed 3 Conn Smythe winners in a list of 4 goalies that prove you don't need a good goalie to win a cup? Giggy was so good when he was on his game that he won CS on a losing team and TT has 2 Vezinas.

Binnington is fine, but if STL had a goalie putting up better than .911 right now they would already have won the cup. Banking on a 25 year old AHLer to magically put up better numbers in the NHL than he does in lesser leagues is not the way to do it. For every time a stacked team like STL or 2010 CHI win with a bad goalie there are a dozen high end teams that are sunk due to not having a good netminder.
 

Lafleurs Guy

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I've always said, ya don't need a 8 10 million goalie to win it all or the best goalie ...
You don't need Connor McDavid either. But it helps...

Want to win a cup? Build a good team. One player isn't going to get you there by himself.
 

Gaylord Q Tinkledink

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You don't need Connor McDavid either. But it helps...

Want to win a cup? Build a good team. One player isn't going to get you there by himself.

Don't even really need a good team, you just need player(s) and/or your team as a whole to go on a hot streak at the right time.

Boston might win with a proven, high-end goalie.

St. Louis might win with a goalie who came on at the right time.

There are teams that have had some of their d play above their level, or their forwards who all of a sudden can't miss.

You need a solid team and some luck and someone random to step up.
 

MasterDecoy

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You listed 3 Conn Smythe winners in a list of 4 goalies that prove you don't need a good goalie to win a cup? Giggy was so good when he was on his game that he won CS on a losing team and TT has 2 Vezinas.

Binnington is fine, but if STL had a goalie putting up better than .911 right now they would already have won the cup. Banking on a 25 year old AHLer to magically put up better numbers in the NHL than he does in lesser leagues is not the way to do it. For every time a stacked team like STL or 2010 CHI win with a bad goalie there are a dozen high end teams that are sunk due to not having a good netminder.

That last sentence: truth
 
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