Ottawa's RFA's 2014 - updates in first post

[Qward]

This will be an all encompasing thread to discuss the RFA players in our system. Re-signings, thoughts on where they will play next year etc etc.

RFA's

Player|Salary|To Qualify|Status|Details
Blood |$825,000|$787,500|Gonzo|Not Qualified
Cowick |$625,000|$687,500|Gonzo|Not Qualified
Da Costa |$825,000|$866,250|Gonzo|Gone to KHL
Dziurzynski |$640,000|$704,000|2 way|750K x 2
Grant |$605,000|$660,000|2 way|700K
Gryba |$562,500|$660,000|1 way|1.25 x 2
Hamilton |$900,000|$715,000|Gonzo|Not Qualified
Hoffman |$660,000|$726,000|2 way|750K
Lehner |$870,000|$850,500|
Schneider |$925,000|$874,125|re-signed|750K
Sdao |$620,000|$632,500|re-signed|641,250 x 2
Wideman |$590,000|$605,000|re-signed|700K

· Jun 19
Happy to re-sign with the Senators for another season!

#Sens AGM Pierre Dorion tells @tsn1200 that fwd Cole Schneider has agreed to terms on a one-year, two-way contract. #SignSignEverywhereASign

#Sens also agreed to terms with defenceman Chris Wideman on a one-year, two-way deal. #BusyDay

#Sens have also agreed to terms with defenceman Michael Sdao on a two-year, two-way deal...

#Sens Gryba will make $1.2M in year one and $1.3M in year two if the deal.

News Release: #Sens re-sign forward Derek Grant to a one-year, two-way contract: http://ottsens.com/U5nWmK

News Release: Senators re-sign forward David Dziurzynski to a two-year, two-way contract
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=725292&cmpid=rss-News

Click to read more...

 

[The Fuhr*]

Gryba could get 2.0 in arbitration
I think Lehner signs a bridge deal 2yrs 1.5per

Hoffman, Da Costa and perhaps Wideman I see demanding one-way deals

 

[Sun God Nika]

Blood gone
Cowick gone
Da Costa gone
Dziurzynski stays
Grant stays
Gryba stays
Hamilton stays
Hoffman stays
Lehner obviously stays
Schneider stays
Sdao gone
Wideman stays

 

[Qward]

Blood just got out of school. He is not gone.

 

[Lehner]

All stay except Cowick and possibly Dziurzynski

 

[bornNraised Sens]

Blood gone
Cowick gone
Da Costa gone
Dziurzynski stays
Grant stays
Gryba stays
Hamilton stays
Hoffman stays
Lehner obviously stays
Schneider stays
Sdao gone
Wideman stays

I agree with all except for Da Costa, if his demands arent too crazy id love to see him come back hes improved greatly and cant really demand a huge contract, if we cant bring him back trade his rights for a little something. When he first came into the league he chose to sign in Ottawa, with several other teams wanting him. I think he could be a good stopgap kind of guy until someone else develops.

 

[Senscore]

I wouldn't miss half of those guys.

 

[Ouroboros]

Blood - Bad player. Not qualified.

Cowick/Dizzy - I've lumped these two together because they're basically the same player. I expect only one to return.

Da Costa - Bound for Europe I'd think. Not likely to be keen on playing in the AHL again.

Grant - Should be back, but I'm skeptical of him having a full time future in the NHL.

Gryba - Good chance he's traded. Otherwise a 1 year deal somewhere around 1 million.

Hamilton - Unlikely to be qualified.

Hoffman - I guess he'll get a chance to start in Ottawa. Could be traded.

Lehner - Something like 2 years/3.5 million.

Schneider/Sdao/Wideman - All back on short-term two-way deals.

Looks like a pretty lean year for Bingo next season IMO.

 

[Hammertyme]

Gryba will never sign for a mill/year when dozens of Defensive D with his numbers are making 1.8-3.6. Defensive RIGHT HANDED D are NOT a dime a dozen. He won't get traded unless he signs first. My guess is if he goes to arbitration it will be about 1.8 to 2.3 year.

 

[Ouroboros]

Gryba will never sign for a mill/year when dozens of Defensive D with his numbers are making 1.8-3.6. Defensive RIGHT HANDED D are NOT a dime a dozen. He won't get traded unless he signs first. My guess is if he goes to arbitration it will be about 1.8 to 2.3 year.

I haven't looked at the comparable players, but those numbers seem really high. Ottawa won't go even close to the high end there; that much I'm sure of.

 

[The Fuhr*]

I haven't looked at the comparable players, but those numbers seem really high. Ottawa won't go even close to the high end there; that much I'm sure of.

Then the Sens will walk away from his arbitration award... He has a strong case in Arbitration
Schenn, Sbisa, ... Gryba will be payed, his numbers are good for arbitration

 

[Ouroboros]

Then the Sens will walk away from his arbitration award... He has a strong case in Arbitration
Schenn, Sbisa, ... Gryba will be payed, his numbers are good for arbitration

A team can't walk away from a player elected arbitration award of less than 3.5 million per year.

The more I look at his comparables, the more I think he'll be dealt.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

da Costa's going to be a large part of our team next season. Book it.

 

[Senscore]

da Costa's going to be a large part of our team next season. Book it.

buckle up

 

[Six Assets]

I think Da Costa gets a 1 way contract from us, especially since spezza is good as gone

 

[Hammertyme]

I didn't know the 3.5mil arbitration rule as far as Gryba's pending arbitration. So IMO it will unfold like this:

Qualifying offer needs to be high enough to avoid arbitration. If it's not, the team is locked in to the arbitration award if this option is exercised. At that point he could be traded.

So they can't really trade him before he signs because the other team really doesn't know what he would be paid unless they trade on speculation.

The other option is to just let him walk for nothing if they guess what the award could be is more than what they would pay.

So what right hand shut down dman who plays a 5/6 role and PK should we get? Any ideas for around 1.5 to two mil.

Schenn 3.6
Sbida 2.1
Alzner 2.8

Found this on another board from a while ago.



When Sharks general manager Doug Wilson tweaked the team's blue line in late February, 2011 with the additions of Ian White and Justin Braun, he emphasized the importance of both being right-shot defensemen.

"There's not many of them out there," he said. "It's like looking for left-handed pitching."

Wilson was shedding light on a curious NHL phenomenon: Left-shot players far outnumber their right-shot counterparts. That disparity is especially seen among defensemen.

Basic economics based on supply and demand may come into play.

 

[The Fuhr*]

A team can't walk away from a player elected arbitration award of less than 3.5 million per year.

The more I look at his comparables, the more I think he'll be dealt.

Thx, I did not know that rule

 

[Sensinitis]

da Costa's going to be a large part of our team next season. Book it.

Agreed.

He's done everything possible that management has asked him to do.

Now it's time for him to be given a real chance.

 

[operasen]

Especially if Spezza does not return a centre. If a guy like ROR comes back or we somehow sign a Statsny then the mix gets sorted differently. If 1 and 2 are Turris and Zibanejad, then SDC is right there.

 

[operasen]

Blood - qualify if BSens need him
Cowick - no
Da Costa - need to convince him - 2 years at 1.2M - Senators
Dziurzynski - qualify BSens
Grant - qualify BSens
Gryba - 3 years; .8, 1, 1.2M - Senators
Hamilton - no
Hoffman - 2 years at 1.2M - Senators
Lehner - 4 years at 3M - Senators
Schneider - qualify BSens
Sdao - no
Wideman - qualify BSens

 

[The Fuhr*]

Gryba - 3 years; .8, 1, 1.2M -

No way he accepts that when he can get 1.5-2.5 in arbitration and the team can't walk away from it cause it's under 3.5

 

[ZekeA]

Zeke's picks on who gets resigned Ottawa's RFA's 2014☺☻☺

Blood gone time for a new prospect
Cowick gone time for a new prospect
Da Costa resign if they can
Dziurzynski resign
Grant resign
Gryba resign
Hamilton no gone time to bring another prospect in
Hoffman resign
Lehner resign
Schneider resign
Sdao not sure depends on if they have enough D-men for Binghamton......................
Wideman resign

 

[Skrymir]

This will be an all encompasing thread to discuss the RFA players in our system. Re-signings, thoughts on where they will play next year etc etc.

RFA's

Player|Salary|To Qualify
Blood |$825,000|$787,500
Cowick |$625,000|$687,500
Da Costa |$825,000|$866,250
Dziurzynski |$640,000|$704,000
Grant |$605,000|$660,000
Gryba |$562,500|$660,000
Hamilton |$900,000|$715,000
Hoffman |$660,000|$726,000
Lehner |$870,000|$850,500
Schneider |$925,000|$874,125
Sdao |$620,000|$632,500
Wideman |$590,000|$605,000

we need columns to show which have arbitration rights, and years to UFA.

 

[Skrymir]

Blood - gone
Cowick - When I've seen him play I like what I see so extend him
Da Costa - Waiting to break out. With Spezza and others from the top 6 Likely gone there could be a full time spot for him on the top 2 lines.
Dziuzynski - Let him walk
Grant - Ditto
Gryba - Hated his play early in the season but got a lot better as time went on. 2yrs $3.0M total and see if he can prove he can play at a high level consistently
Hamilton - gone
Hoffman - see my comments on Da Costa. I think he has everything that should be able to make a solid NHL player but there still seems to be a disconnect with him.
Lehner - Larger contract that eats up some UFA years rather than a bridge deal.
Schneider - Important part of the B-Sens keep him
Sdao - Gone
Wideman - He's a long term project so I'd re-sign him

 

[Grizz MacArthur]

I would guess that the Sens don't send qualifying offers to Ben Blood, Wacey Hamilton & David Dziurzynski.

Lehner and Hoffman will sign 1-way deals with the Sens. I think Gryba and Da Costa are prime candidates to get dealt. Cowick, Derek Grant, Schneider, Sdao and Wideman return to the B-Sens.