Apparently you haven't been in the Boedker trade threads. Most sharks fans actually wanted at least a 3rd rounder even with zero retention
Confirmed Trade: [OTT/SJS] Hoffman, Donaghy, 5th ('20) for Boedker, Bergman, 6th ('20)
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So often we hear of trade "there had to be a better return." Here we see it's literally the case.
Ummmmm all I stated was
that not every state in the US recognizes common law marriage. That is a fact, not opinion. What exactly am I trying to save face over? Don’t put words in my mouth that don’t exist.
Halla
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at least ottawa can get hughes nest year...oh wait
almostawake
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Over his last 4 seasons with Arizona and the Avs he put up 156 points in 255 games. That is a 50.16 point pace.
Arguing Boedker isn't a 50 point player on bad teams is to argue in bad faith.
Now, you can certainly argue that given the situation he was in in San Jose lowers his value significantly. And hence, that it is bad value.
But it is not possible to argue in good faith that the gap between Boedker and Hoffman is enormous. I mean, for goodness sake, over the last 2 seasons (Boedker's worse seasons) his ES points per 60 is 1.71. Hoffman's is 1.81.
The "real" gap between Boedker and Hoffman is significantly smaller than the boxscore stats indicate. Hoffman is, and almost certainly always will be, a much bigger PP producer. That is the actual gap between the two.
plot twist. Hoffman breaks up with his girlfriend and she remains in Ottawa and Dates Boedker.
I don't want to put salt on the wound for Sens fans, but their demands for the 10 OA in exchange for Hoffman was pure fantasy. At least after the news broke.
I do not envy Dorion's job. Icing a competitive line up with the issues that have arisen in Ottawa cannot be easy.
I do not envy Dorion's job. Icing a competitive line up with the issues that have arisen in Ottawa cannot be easy.
Ainec
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this trade makes other fans wish
1. their gm was as proactive as doug wilson
2. their boedker esque player is valued by Ottawa
first should be a given, second is a low bar but depends on Ottawa's pro scouts.
As a canucks fan with Jim Benning a 2nd 4th 5th 5th might as well be a miracle like winning the goddamn lottery. We are a rebuilding team that LOSES these picks every year. Benning then attempts to recoup them back at the deadline/draft day and it's crickets
1. their gm was as proactive as doug wilson
2. their boedker esque player is valued by Ottawa
first should be a given, second is a low bar but depends on Ottawa's pro scouts.
As a canucks fan with Jim Benning a 2nd 4th 5th 5th might as well be a miracle like winning the goddamn lottery. We are a rebuilding team that LOSES these picks every year. Benning then attempts to recoup them back at the deadline/draft day and it's crickets
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We have been over this. The peace bond accuses Caryk of harassment dating back to November. That doesnt mean they knew in November that it was her.
UPDATED: Hoffman, fiancée deny harassing the Karlssons
In the above interview Caryk claims the first see heard of it was March 22nd, Hoffman found out about it later that night. It isnt very logical to believe that everyone in the organization knew about the accusations a month before Hoffman and his fiancee.
Obviously Melinda and Monika didnt get along before this started but there's no reason to believe anything crossed the line before these allegations. There's not a team in the league where every player gets along and all the wives get along. Two wives not getting along isnt enough of a reason to trade a player.
I view the trade as a win-win-win.
San Jose clears cap space for Tavares/Kovalchuk and nets some good picks.
Florida gets a top 6 winger for essentially nothing.
Ottawa gets rid of a locker room issue/cancer and replaces him with a similar (albeit slightly worse) player.
San Jose clears cap space for Tavares/Kovalchuk and nets some good picks.
Florida gets a top 6 winger for essentially nothing.
Ottawa gets rid of a locker room issue/cancer and replaces him with a similar (albeit slightly worse) player.
Quite possibly one of the worst trades in the modern NHL. In the same ballpark as Seguin/Eriksson and Hall/Larsson. All Hoffman had to do was dump his girl and announce it publicly with an apology. Then he would be worth a 1st rounder minimum. Hell, Evander Kane got a 1st rounder twice. Never seen such a knee jerk reaction in my life. Then San Jose wastes the gift that was handed to them. Watch him score 40 in Florida.
What a clueless post. 28 year old has never scored even 30 goals in his career who plays like Dany Heatley. Can you name any player in NHL history to never score 30 goals by the age of 28, and then score 40 in a season?
In your haste to be funny, you missed an immortal one: Jason Blake.
That led to a $20M contract from the Leafs.
