Other Chicago & General Sports Thread LXII: The Bulls are technically an NBA team
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He sure looks like it. Allegedly, he has a good motor too. That said, I heard numerous Duke insiders say RJ Barrett is the better talent in practice. I don't see it, but that's what's been said. I like Reddish's shooting.
That said, everyone thought Trae Young was the greatest in the first month last year. I suspect Zion's warts will be exposed throughout the year. We need to see more.
I think the biggest question with Zion will be his weight. He can't carry that much weight in the NBA. If he's committed to conditioning, you have to draft him. He is definitely a generational physical talent.
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Yeah I think RJ is the best player. Zion might have a higher ceiling, but I'm not even sure on that.
I don't know. I can't deny Zion's freaky athletic abilities. He's scary. I thought RJ would be more athletic. However, he is highly skilled and deft. Reddish can shoot and shoot well.
I have no idea who has the higher ceiling. I'm thinking Zion, RJ, and Reddish. That said, RJ can play PG and that could make his upside even higher. However, we do know who will sell the most tickets.
No Fun Shogun
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I think that there was an inkling that a major club hockey program was going to be jumping up to NCAA D-I a week or two back, but as there's been no news on that front, it probably was about this:
One thing to really note is that Lindenwood is the only club program of note, really. And if they're bolting Illinois' club conference then it's going to shrink in size yet again.
ACHA to Launch New Men's D-I Conference | ACHA
One thing to really note is that Lindenwood is the only club program of note, really. And if they're bolting Illinois' club conference then it's going to shrink in size yet again.
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Lindenwood used to be a wagon. Not sure about now though. Their inline team was good as well.
No Fun Shogun
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BK
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I don't follow club at all. Hell I didn't even play club in college (straight sold my gear when I quit).
No Fun Shogun
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Yeah, neither do I, though I still like going to Illini games from time to time. And hey, Illinois State plays Illinois in home and away series sometimes, so I should take advantage of that now that I live in Bloomington-Normal.
Then again, I should take more advantage of the USHL team while they're still here, too.
Then again, I should take more advantage of the USHL team while they're still here, too.
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Saw on ESPN the Cubs are open to trading Bryant. I can see why and if contract stuff is going nowhere might as well say your goodbyes
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I don't think Bryant goes anywhere. This seems like a non story. If you read Theo's quotes, he just refuses to call anyone untouchable.
Why? The Sox despise Boras. Why would they trade assets for Bryant and pay $300mn+ for an extension ... when they can try to sign Machado for $300mn without trading assets and deal with Boras just that one time with Machado.
It's not like Bryant is better than Machado. While Machado might have attidue issues ... Byrant has shoulder concerns. I'd rather try to sign Machado without giving up assets.
I can easily see Theo trading Bryant. If Theo can maximize Bryant's value in a trade ... he'll do it. Boras is tough to deal with AND Bryant's shoulder is an issue.
Also, if the Cubs trade Bryant ... can they be setting their sights on Machado in the UFA market?
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That works both ways. Teams potentially trading for Bryant know about the shoulder issue and the difficulty that will come from trying to resign him, which lowers any potential package.
Could Theo trade Bryant, sure. He could trade anyone if the price is right, which is all he said in the article. Highly doubt Bryant moves, especially this year.
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KW does not Hahn. And there's rumors already they're making a pitch for Harper who has the same agent. For the record, I think Bryant goes nowhere as the Cubs will probably ask for the moon (and they should). But I would also find it hilarious if Hahn dangles the package he got for Q for him making it look like a straight swap in the end (although I think us Sox fans agree that Eloy goes nowhere too).
If I'm the Braves GM for example, I'd look into this. Loaded farm system, and can add to their young core with Bryant and their window.
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"We've never operated with untouchables," he said. "It sends the wrong message. Given what we're trying to accomplish, it would be virtually impossible to envision the deal that would make sense to move them. I just don't believe in untouchables. Why limit yourself?"
"We've never operated with untouchables," he said. "It sends the wrong message. Given what we're trying to accomplish, it would be virtually impossible to envision the deal that would make sense to move them. I just don't believe in untouchables. Why limit yourself?"
No Fun Shogun
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I'd actually trade Bryant if I got the right offer. Would Theo do it? Doubtful, but he's a Moneyball guy. Theo has no issues trading assets if the value is right.
This would be a Theo move ...
1. Trade Bryant for young assets.
2. Sign Machado for $300mn.
That said, all indications are the Cubs don't want to go above the luxury tax if possible.
If I was Theo ... I would package Heyward and Bryant for an elite prospect and sign Machado. I know it sounds crazy, but that Heyward's contract is a killer. Theo did this before. He traded Starling Castro to sign Ben Zobrist.
So ask yourself this ... would you trade Bryant and Heyward for Machado and Jimenez (using him as the type of elite prospect as an example)?
Harper is not a bad idea for the Sox. However, he's demanding close to $400mn. Would the Sox do it? Is it smart long term? I don't think Boras is going to give Reinsdorf a discount.
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I would be legitimately shocked if the Sox went after Harper or Machado. They have a much leaner budget as they bring in far less money than the Cubs, so they can't just write off huge payrolls willy-nilly. Sure, signing either would be a bump to their gate, but a consistent enough bump to warrant that much red ink? I doubt it.
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This is where opt out clauses come into effect. I don't know what an 82 year old Reinsdorf is thinking, but he is on record saying he wants to see another championship before he dies. I can easily see a heavily front loaded deal with a bunch of opt out clauses for the player and/or team. Would I bet the house of anything materializing? Probably not, but it isn't as fairytale-ish as it once was with a high priced FA with this organization.
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I don't think the Cubs are going to give Bryant the type of money he wants when he's 31 as a UFA. Harper and Machado are much YOUNGER as UFAs.
If Theo gets the right package, you never know. There were rumors Theo liked Machado (before his WS meltdown).
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