Players get waived all the time, so that point is mute. It is crucial to have Orr, cause we don't have the players that can play and fight. Komo, Phaneuf will not intimidate the other team at all, do you really want Komo and Phaneuf to fight the other teams tough guys? LOL
Last year we barely hit our opponents and now for most of the season we have out them!! Face it Orr and Brown add a different to our lineup. Not my fault you don't realize
You mean like these? Sighhh here's another lie soft leaf fans spread out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrorLoqmUQc-->look how brave Kaleta is there
Orr was in the lineup for that game.
Yes, yes, the much debated Grabo not looking where he's going and skating into Neil play. He's prone to those bonehead suicidal plays as we've seen in the past. That doesn't necessarily make them cheapshots.
We had Rosehill warming the bench during this bout. Are you saying that Orr warming the bench in his stead would have made things much different?
These are the exact kind of spur of the moment events that a player who's benched for 57 mins of a game won't be able to do much about. Do you think Gleason would have fought Orr in the 2nd or the 3rd had he been in the lineup?
Orr was in the lineup for this game, the notorious night when Lebda went -3 in a 9-3 win. This is just Colby doing his job. Trolling players into penalties while turtling. It's unfortunate that he got poked in the eye during the process.
Also I could find you lots more from last year but I'm to lazy and I proved my point. all ready. Next time check your facts before stating things. Look at Neil and how eager he is to go with Neil with Orr in the lineup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MDYqUTacAY
'"Orr's presence didn't effect the team's performance one way or another"
That's straight up false, our top 9 is pretty soft. Our bottom 3 needs to be gritty and nasty to make up for our soft 9. And umm Randy Carlyle the coach has said that Orr provides a protective presence and our players need protection.
Our players always play a few inches taller when hes in the line up. Nice try though
A coach who will stick up defend his players?
I know, I know, after Wilson, not everyone is used to it, but it's not like Carlyle will call Orr out for being a plug. The icetime he gives him speaks louder than words ever could.
So you've managed to look up some fights from hockeyfights.com during the stretches when Orr was supposedly demoted. The fact that Orr was actually dressed for two of those fights just goes to prove my point that much more. Him warming the bench had no effect on Armstrong getting sucker punched, or Phaneuf getting trolled by Kaleta.
Here are some more examples of our stars/skilled players being forced to fight their own battles against plugs, and our prospect(s) (Schenn) getting beaten up while Orr, and Mayers/Excelby/Brown are sitting on the bench.
Fisher vs Versteeg (with Orr and Brown in the lineup)
Phaneuf vs Horton (with Orr and Brown in the lineup)
Phaneuf vs Newbury (with Orr in the lineup) why does our captain have to "fight" 4th line plugs with an enforcer present?
Schenn vs Glass (with Orr, Excelby, and Mayers in the linup) Great job protecting our prospects.
Schenn vs Neil (with Orr and Mayers in the lineup)
Kessel vs Russel (with Orr and Mayers in the lineup)
Phaneuf vs White (with Orr, and Excelby in the lineup)
Here's the thing, I have nothing against fighting, and nothing against Orr (other than the fact that he can't play the game at the NHL level). As a matter of fact, I love fights that are fueled by emotion and happen in the heat of the game. These staged fights where both combatants nod to each other before dropping the gloves pale in comparison.
When I think of protecting our young players/stars, I think of Phaneuf getting mugged
RIGHT AFTER he rode Tavares into the boards. Orr cannot provide this for the club with his 3 mins of icetime. His staged fights are not doing much, as you can tell from above examples, our prospects/skilled players were forced to take matters into their own hands, often during games where Orr had already had a fight.
At the end of the day, I don't believe goons who can only play 3-5 mins a night bring much to the table, other than the sideshow entertainment of staged fights.
