Speculation: Opening Night Lines?

[Martinez]

I’d like to see veleno make the team but there will be injuries so I’m sure we will see a lot of him this season

 

[Eye of Ra]

I wish they'd find another gritty/banger for that fourth line and sit Gagner at that point.

stephans and smith are both physical, so no need to worry. and then there is seider--

 

[Eye of Ra]

with vrana out, one of berggren and raymond must be tried with the big boys

 

[Electric Eric]

f*** I'm so tired of this stale thinking.
Who was the last Red Wing to "dominate" in the AHL. Pulkkinen.
Before him, who? Hudler?

Off the top of my head:

Bertuzzi
Tatar
Nyquist

 

[Revenge of Gru]

f*** I'm so tired of this stale thinking.
Who was the last Red Wing to "dominate" in the AHL. Pulkkinen.
Before him, who? Hudler?

It's astonishing to me the best Yzerman can do is f***ing Gagner and Ryan.
Two guys plagued by character issues/compete issues throughout their career.
Two guys known more for what they could have been than what they were (let alone what they are).

Also - I'm trying to figure out the path forward for Veleno.
1C-Larkin. 2C-Suter 3C-Rasmussen 4C-Stephens.
Is there a plan to give him an opportunity? Or does he get waived next year?

Hronek put up .77 ppg from the blue line. That's pretty good.

 

[MBH]

Off the top of my head:

Bertuzzi
Tatar
Nyquist

Bertuzzi never did a point-per-game.
Neither did Tatar.
Nyquist is a good call. 3 straight years of point-per-game

 

[lilidk]

IF Ryan makes the team it will make no sense to me, he’s a good guy but raymond is clearly more electric and a play driver. As for veleno he has spent already two years in the AHL and SHL I just don’t see the point in him not being on the team. There’s just no need for guys like gagner or Ryan to be on the team, they are taking up space and younger players can do what they do.

I like both of them , but for playing and teaching kids not playing instead of kids

 

[Filppula]

If Veleno spends more than half the season in GR it will be a disgrace. He is ready for crying out loud.

 

[RedWingzz]

We have so many entertaining kids, but we're going to play a boring style of hockey yet again.

Carter Rowney come on down....

Raymond could go a point per game in the preseason and he's still gonna get cut. It's obvious all the kids are destined for GR. If he or Veleno can't find their way onto the team, we will easily have the least entertaining roster in the NHL.

 

[Pavels Dog]

We have so many entertaining kids, but we're going to play a boring style of hockey yet again.

Carter Rowney come on down....

Raymond could go a point per game in the preseason and he's still gonna get cut. It's obvious all the kids are destined for GR. If he or Veleno can't find their way onto the team, we will easily have the least entertaining roster in the NHL.

Raymond is on a line with Larkin tonight. I think you’re exaggerating.

 

[RedWingzz]

Raymond is on a line with Larkin tonight. I think you’re exaggerating.

Yeah I saw that, I just think it tells us a lot that Raymond and Veleno are practicing with the GR group while Ryan is practicing with the Detroit group.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Raymond literally forces the team to keep him around, but something tells me they've already decided that Raymond and Veleno are starting in GR.

Carter Rowney is such a waste of a roster spot. I know Ray and Veleno don't play that role, but I'd rather see Pearson play than Carter Rowney. Rowney is terrible and brings absolutely nothing to the table.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Yeah I saw that, I just think it tells us a lot that Raymond and Veleno are practicing with the GR group while Ryan is practicing with the Detroit group.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Raymond literally forces the team to keep him around, but something tells me they've already decided that Raymond and Veleno are starting in GR.

Carter Rowney is such a waste of a roster spot. I know Ray and Veleno don't play that role, but I'd rather see Pearson play than Carter Rowney. Rowney is terrible and brings absolutely nothing to the table.

I don’t think it means they’ve made up their minds. They are just putting guys in the NHL practice session based on whether the person is NHL or bust.

What good is putting Rowney or Stephens in the GR practice session if they are going to be NHL or waivers/cut?

Use the GR practice session as an attempt to motivate Joe and Lucas. The play in game and the attitude they come to practice with is what will make or break their spot. The staff will know if they have forced their hand.

 

[golffuul]

I don’t think it means they’ve made up their minds. They are just putting guys in the NHL practice session based on whether the person is NHL or bust.

What good is putting Rowney or Stephens in the GR practice session if they are going to be NHL or waivers/cut?

Use the GR practice session as an attempt to motivate Joe and Lucas. The play in game and the attitude they come to practice with is what will make or break their spot. The staff will know if they have forced their hand.

it's also a move that lets you know if you have a worker or a whiner on your hands.

 

[Gniwder]

Bertuzzi never did a point-per-game.
Neither did Tatar.
Nyquist is a good call. 3 straight years of point-per-game

Riley Barber is on a Wings contract

 

[MBH]

Riley Barber is on a Wings contract

Barber is actually a guy I think can help some nights.

 

[Gniwder]

Barber is actually a guy I think can help some nights.

I dunno, obviously every NHL GM thinks there's something missing to his game. I don't watch enough GR games to know what that something is.

Seems like he's another Keith Aucoin, destined to be an AHL superstar. At least Aucoin got s few legit shots at the NHL, whereas Barber only got a couple of looks.

 

[MBH]

I dunno, obviously every NHL GM thinks there's something missing to his game. I don't watch enough GR games to know what that something is.

Seems like he's another Keith Aucoin, destined to be an AHL superstar. At least Aucoin got s few legit shots at the NHL, whereas Barber only got a couple of looks.

Puempel is another guy I feel that way about. In a limited role, 2nd PP unit role, i can see him helping. Hirose, too.

 

[MBH]

Yeah I saw that, I just think it tells us a lot that Raymond and Veleno are practicing with the GR group while Ryan is practicing with the Detroit group.

I hope I'm wrong. I hope Raymond literally forces the team to keep him around, but something tells me they've already decided that Raymond and Veleno are starting in GR.

Carter Rowney is such a waste of a roster spot. I know Ray and Veleno don't play that role, but I'd rather see Pearson play than Carter Rowney. Rowney is terrible and brings absolutely nothing to the table.

In limited viewing, I've been thoroughly unimpressed by Rowney.

 

[Mister Ed]

After watching 3 preseason games :

Zadina - Larkin - Raymond
Fabbri - Suter - Bertuzzi
Veleno - Namestnikov - Erne
Smith - Stephens - Gagner

Leddy - Seider
Dekeyser - Hronek
Staal - Stecher

Nedeljkovic
Greiss

Extras : I really want to put Hirose / Pearson here, but I think it will be Rowney / Witkowski. Lindstrom as the extra D.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

I honestly like it. I want Raymond and Veleno and Berggren to dominate the AHL.

I would be devastated if Raymond made team and got crushed by some idiot in AHL or NHL, he is still tiny. Best option would be SHL at least for one year so he could fill his frame and getting that Calder next season. I believe SHL is much better league for developing young players than GR.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

If Veleno spends more than half the season in GR it will be a disgrace. He is ready for crying out loud.

Agree with you he is skilled, he is handsome and he is thicc.
- Steve Yzerman, Detroit Red Wings general manager

 

[Ulysses31]

After watching 3 preseason games :

Zadina - Larkin - Raymond
Fabbri - Suter - Bertuzzi
Veleno - Namestnikov - Erne
Smith - Stephens - Gagner

Leddy - Seider
Dekeyser - Hronek
Staal - Stecher

Nedeljkovic
Greiss

Extras : I really want to put Hirose / Pearson here, but I think it will be Rowney / Witkowski. Lindstrom as the extra D.

rasmussen?

 

[Henkka]

From last year, the good 1st line:
FABBRI - LARKIN - BERTUZZI

They had some chemistry together. When Vrana is injured, there's no speculation about Vrana being or not being on the top line. We can add Raymond to 2nd line:
ZADINA - SUTER - RAYMOND

Kind of cheking line or shut-down line or whatever. Namestnikov has been pretty bad, so I prefer vet Gagner there.
ERNE - RASMUSSEN - GAGNER
Maybe swap Zadina/Erne to have equal skill/physucality in both Middle6 lines

Typical 4th line, wrecking ball -Smith + 2 best penalty-killers.
SMITH - STEPHENS - ROWNEY

13th forward:
Namestnikov

Then 8 defencemen we already know + 2 goalies.

 

[Oddbob]

I think Veleno and Raymond have played well enough to make the team. I also think, that Tyut is worth keeping as he is better than Rowney and Namestnikov who I expect will be on the team. Rowney has looked pretty bad to me.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Hello y'all. How has Seider looked? Considering picking him up but not sure if he'll be a big point getter?