Yeah Buffalo runs away with that. Ive seen all your posts. You seem to be stuck in 2013, nobody is gunning for the Hawks assets anymore. Youre not getting William Nylander for Jokhiharju, maybe Boqvist if you add something with value to him.
Speculation: "One of the Hawks big 4 defensive prospects is not off the the table"
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Yeah Buffalo runs away with that. Ive seen all your posts. You seem to be stuck in 2013, nobody is gunning for the Hawks assets anymore. Youre not getting William Nylander for Jokhiharju, maybe Boqvist if you add something with value to him.
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The add would have to be Brent Seabrook or hell f***ing no.
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Could definetly see them trading one of them as their top two picks the last two years have been defencemen. Should keep Boqvist as he can be their 1RD for a long time. The problem for Hawks is they have way to much tied in defencemen not living up to their contract. Cant believe they gave Seabrook a contract thet long. I can see them wanting to reward him for the cups, but should have given him a shorter reward contract and then he could get his value.
Keith contract is still worth it as it gave Hawks 3 cups and hes still probably worth around his salary cap. He gets close to 0,5 ppg playing 23 minutes a night and not getting a lot of pp time. Seabrook is also a quite good defenceman, but hes not close to 7 million and the contract is so long its gonna be worse. Then you also have Murphy who have not been a huge success. All tied up for a quite long time. Leaving little room for the young guys to get in to the lineup.
Still a lot of positives for the Hawks and the rubuild might not be as long as some tought. DeBrincat is amazing. Strome have been ppg after the trade and both of these guys are young and can improve. If Kane keeps his level for some years and Strome and DeBrincat develops more they have a scary offense when adding Toews, Anisimov, Saad and I also really like Kahun. Then if Boqvist and the rest of the young D is ready to step up to the NHL soon the defense where the problem is now will be strong.
Keith contract is still worth it as it gave Hawks 3 cups and hes still probably worth around his salary cap. He gets close to 0,5 ppg playing 23 minutes a night and not getting a lot of pp time. Seabrook is also a quite good defenceman, but hes not close to 7 million and the contract is so long its gonna be worse. Then you also have Murphy who have not been a huge success. All tied up for a quite long time. Leaving little room for the young guys to get in to the lineup.
Still a lot of positives for the Hawks and the rubuild might not be as long as some tought. DeBrincat is amazing. Strome have been ppg after the trade and both of these guys are young and can improve. If Kane keeps his level for some years and Strome and DeBrincat develops more they have a scary offense when adding Toews, Anisimov, Saad and I also really like Kahun. Then if Boqvist and the rest of the young D is ready to step up to the NHL soon the defense where the problem is now will be strong.
I think your right. It's funny how they called him up and said it was a emergency call up !
If they do make a trade which I'm not counting on Stan to do anything , but I think if Stan does we will end up getting hosed in the deal.
I've heard Nylanders name mentioned?
I hope not he is overpaid and doesn't have the qualities or upside for that bloated salary.
Stan would be a moran to trade his blue chip defenseman .
This team is barely a 500 level team.
They lack a solid defensive group, their top 6 is missing at least 2 players. They need a solid bottom 6 who can contribute both offensively , but shut down other teams top units.
Keith's contract is what it is , it was signed 7 years ago.
Seabrook contract their is no reasonable person who would have made that offer for the terms and added a NMC to a guy who was in his 30s .
Murphy lacks size and the willingness to block shots
Dalhstom is a solid bottom depth guy
Forsling useless
Koekkoek lacks size
Gustafson great offensively but his defensive mishaps are glaring.
Stans only choice is to somehow force the issue with Seabrook and Keith to get moved.
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How about they just wait until there is an ACTUAL log jam, like, at the NHL level? Right now they're just mystery box prospects.
They would return far more too. Kind of like Nashville did with Jones.
They would return far more too. Kind of like Nashville did with Jones.
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Murphy listed as 6.4 and 212
Koekkoek at 6.2 and 193
I hate to think of what behemouth you consider to have size?!
Me thinks you have an apt name Taylorist ... ; )
What are the hawks fans thoughts on Lucas carlsson?? Heard any info on him , I remember liking him in his draft year and now I see a lot of news on hawks great d prospects and he’s not listed
Would he be available for a 3rd?
Would he be available for a 3rd?
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Before they drafted this "big 4" crop of D he had hype. He has been real solid this season mostly all year top pair F in his first AHL season and began scoring well too.
They have a lot still young maybe second pair LDs, but I see no reason they'd trade Carlsson before he gets some NHL chances maybe next year.
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I have had the opportunity to watch Boqvist quite a bit this season; great offensive instincts and a terrific skater but is a defensive nightmare. A younger, smaller version of Gustafson.
Well that sucks I figured with all those guys mentioned as well as forsling playing and seabrook/Keith going nowhere there might be a chance to make a move
Goodluck hope he turns out to be good, can always say a nobody got one up on nhl scouts when he becomes a good one ha
Uhm No, he is nowhere near McIssac bud.
Keep in mind, McIssac wasn’t played much(played 4games) the last two games he played, he played solid minutes as an 18 year old. Rare considering how canada runs teams.
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If the Hawks want Dzingle they can just wait and go after him July 1st.
Do you realize Connor Murphy is 6’4 210 pounds and Slater Koekkoek is 6’2 195 pounds? You may be the only person in these boards who feels they “lack size”.
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Value wise Jokiharju for Nylander is probably fine. Wouldn’t touch it as a hawks fan though.
Hawks should wait for July. Maybe trade Anisimov for cap space/picks and see what UFA'a we can get. We need another Defensive minded D and a solid 2 way forward. Unfortunately Seabs and Keith need to be bottom pairing and or healthy scratches going forward. Murphy is really the only guy that hits. Seabrook hits but I think he uses up to much energy.
Dubas would rightfully as for strome and Debrincat! 60 points for 8 million dollars is great value!
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I really think you should put the full quote in the first post
Now AND the future is the key term. The hawks are not trading any of their top prospects for a UFA. I would think the only thing that moves the needle for the Hawks would be a package that returns a young top 4 defender with term.
Now AND the future is the key term. The hawks are not trading any of their top prospects for a UFA. I would think the only thing that moves the needle for the Hawks would be a package that returns a young top 4 defender with term.
