on Twitter: Helping Fans Make Sense of This Season

wetcardboard

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Oct 29, 2011
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No **** they aren't a TOP CONTENDER DAMIEN you ****.

But they are WAY better on paper than their play would suggest, this team for sure should've made the playoffs. Anyone who thinks otherwise is Pejorative Slured.

The whole team has just been playing like regurgitated fecal matter. I don't know what the solution is....they all deserve a kick in the ass though! This is the ****ing Toronto Maple Leafs here...the players need to show some pride, balls, and fight. It's a joke.
 

thewave

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Jun 17, 2011
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Twitter, before you could just write Dear Habby in the Montreal gazette.
 

Trapper

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"Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin 8m
If you projected the Leafs as being top four in the conference this season, then sure, I guess you could make a case for firing the coach."

Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin 6m
Just wanting the Leafs to be better isn't enough. They just don't have the talent. Don't have a No. 1 goalie. Part of mushy middle."

Please Fans. Be sensible. This was never a team that would challenge in the East or go more than 1 playoff round (if they made the post-season). They are a bubble team this season. Those that aren't wearing rose coloured glasses will tell you: "They're not that good". If you were fooled by their start to the season you'll probably be never fooled again.


Come on. You can't imagine this team with young goalies, a poor defence, and lack of strength down the middle as one that could challenge for top spot in the East.

I wish they were better, but they're not.

Then if we are missing all these things why are we not rebuilding and drafting higher?
 

Teeder9

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Oct 14, 2011
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Isn't the GM to blame the ?

This team won last year with the same system, and performed well.
And then the GM makes a ton of changes.

I think this team is still playing hard for Randy. Guys like Clarkson, Lupul, Phaneuf, Kulemin and Bozam ka the so called "Carlyle type players" are still working their ***** off, but making mistakes

It's the guys whose compete has been ever questioned that have disappeared... Kessel, JVR, Kadro, Franson Who are listless.

Again this is on the players not the coach

If Carlyle's system wasn't a problem, then why are we mad. He's in Anaheim still coaching cup winners
 

Billy6

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Dec 23, 2012
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People can complain about Cox all they want but unfortunately he's right, he's 100% right. Those of you that come on here all the time and defend this team need to get your heads out of the sand. This team doesn't need a new coach, they are not one or two pieces away. This team needs a complete overhaul of the players.

The sooner people accept this reality and demand change the sooner we might finally be able to fix this disaster of a hockey team because make no mistake they have been a disaster for the last decade, yet people seem to want to stay the course. The same course that has got us nothing but ten wasted seasons.

This team is light years from competing for a Cup. Demand better. Don't defend garbage.
 

topched

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Nov 19, 2008
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If Carlyle's system wasn't a problem, then why are we mad. He's in Anaheim still coaching cup winners

Bowman, Nielsen, Quenneville, Sutter...

All guys who have been fired, clearly coaches have a shelf-life, I'm not doubting that.

But Randy lasted 6 full seasons in Anaheim, not 2. His system was effective for a long time there, and he had the players to execute.

That's not the case here
 

Pyromaniac3

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Dec 19, 2011
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I would be disappointed if we missed the playoffs this season. We knew we were in a dogfight before the season to make the playoffs.

But the issue is, we have no fight. Just awful hockey. And the serious lack of accountability on Carlyle's part (Holzer, Kosktka last season, Orr and Franson this season). The coaching staff has never iced the most talented lineup that we have in any game this season. Combined that with both our goalies playing absolutely incredible every game, it is ridiculous that we have less 3 regulations wins in 20 games.
 

GordieHoweHatTrick

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Sep 20, 2009
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what are you talking about?

Bernier only has 93 NHL games and Reimer only 123.


that's not enough to call them anything yet.

But its enough for Howard and Detroit, Bishop and Tampa Bay, Quick and Los Angeles, Price and Montreal. All these goalies made the cut with little experience. Thats besides the point though, Toronto's goaltending has been the least of its worries. Cox is off base here, plenty of talent to go around as well.
 

Al14

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Jul 13, 2007
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what are you talking about?

Bernier only has 93 NHL games and Reimer only 123.


that's not enough to call them anything yet.

Exactly, not enough games to measure their individual standing as #1 goalies. :naughty:
 

tinfoilcup

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People can complain about Cox all they want but unfortunately he's right, he's 100% right. Those of you that come on here all the time and defend this team need to get your heads out of the sand. This team doesn't need a new coach, they are not one or two pieces away. This team needs a complete overhaul of the players.

The sooner people accept this reality and demand change the sooner we might finally be able to fix this disaster of a hockey team because make no mistake they have been a disaster for the last decade, yet people seem to want to stay the course. The same course that has got us nothing but ten wasted seasons.

This team is light years from competing for a Cup. Demand better. Don't defend garbage.

He's not right. This team is capable of playing good hockey. There isn't going to be any rebuild of the mediocre core players either. Good luck moving that many long term contracts.

If you want change, you should be clamouring for the head of one George A. Cope. A guy who likes to make decisions that have nothing to do with the success of what is occurring on the ice. Hah, corporate branding. I'd like to tell that guy what I think of his stupidity directly to his face. Remember when the senior management of our franchise promised us that Burke would have complete autonomy to run the hockey team? How long did that last? Burke was the identity of this team. Burke was the one deflecting attention away from the team when they were slumping and the one who was pumping these guys up to play well. This Cope name is going to be synonymous with some of the biggest boneheads who have ever had anything to do with this team. Mark my words.
 

Primary Assist

The taste of honey is worse than none at all
Jul 7, 2010
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You never go full Damien Cox.

That's like quoting the back of a hotwheels box when you have engine problems.

Legitimately laughed out loud. This guy is pretty good at his job, considering his job description entails spouting nonsense and making people angry. Oh and his biography on Brodeur SUCKED.
 

Havoc

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Jul 25, 2009
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Even if you're the worst team in the league, you can still lose less badly game by game, which is a sign of progression and learning from your mistakes.

This Leafs team is static. Nothing is being learned, nothing is changing. Same garbage play from game 1. The only difference from now and game 1 is the goalies have come back down to earth.

Time for change.
 

JackJ

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Feb 7, 2012
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Without our goaltending duo this tream would be a bottom fiver. Its one of the few bright spots this season.
 

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Oct 19, 2007
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Dont have a #1 goalie...we have two #1 goalies.

Goaltending isn't the problem.

The number of shots that they see is a HUGE problem.
As long as fans keep thinking that way, the team will never be better..Both the goalies are useless and neither one of them would be a number one goalie on more than a couple teams in the league.. Simply useless as it is with all the defense behind Phaneuf..
 

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Oct 19, 2007
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People can complain about Cox all they want but unfortunately he's right, he's 100% right. Those of you that come on here all the time and defend this team need to get your heads out of the sand. This team doesn't need a new coach, they are not one or two pieces away. This team needs a complete overhaul of the players.

The sooner people accept this reality and demand change the sooner we might finally be able to fix this disaster of a hockey team because make no mistake they have been a disaster for the last decade, yet people seem to want to stay the course. The same course that has got us nothing but ten wasted seasons.

This team is light years from competing for a Cup. Demand better. Don't defend garbage.
Thumbs up.
 

GordieHoweHatTrick

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Sep 20, 2009
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Toronto
Even if you're the worst team in the league, you can still lose less badly game by game, which is a sign of progression and learning from your mistakes.

This Leafs team is static. Nothing is being learned, nothing is changing. Same garbage play from game 1. The only difference from now and game 1 is the goalies have come back down to earth.

Time for change.

Absolutely, this team can't even stop the bleeding. You'd think that at 4 - 1 the game would be just a matter of the clock running down, but the Leafs allow another goal, and another at 5 - 1. That just goes to show you that they didn't really give a crap.
 

PoisonMushroom

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Mar 8, 2006
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Damien Cox ‏@DamoSpin 6m
Just wanting the Leafs to be better isn't enough. They just don't have the talent. Don't have a No. 1 goalie. Part of mushy middle."

Please Fans. Be sensible. This was never a team that would challenge in the East or go more than 1 playoff round (if they made the post-season). They are a bubble team this season. Those that aren't wearing rose coloured glasses will tell you: "They're not that good". If you were fooled by their start to the season you'll probably be never fooled again.

Bullcrap. This isn't a team with Toskala in net and Jason Blake and Mike Komisarek as their big hopes.

They have talent. They have TWO potential #1 goalies. Kessel, JVR, Kadri and Lupul are legit top 6 talents. They showed it in the playoffs by taking the big bad Boston Bruins to the limit.

This team has the talent, but the players, for whatever reason, are hestitant to show it. They aren't buying into Carlyle anymore and they're playing for themselves, not each other. The talent IS there, but mentally they aren't.
 

The CyNick

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Sep 17, 2009
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How does Cox explain the Flyers with Berube as their coach and Mason in net?

Like most beat writers they will say both are elite while they are winning. Then when they stuck again you say see like I said you can't win with a mediocre goalie and inexperienced coach.

It's all just a carny act. Try not to fall for it.
 

topched

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Nov 19, 2008
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Toronto, Ontario
Bullcrap. This isn't a team with Toskala in net and Jason Blake and Mike Komisarek as their big hopes.

They have talent. They have TWO potential #1 goalies. Kessel, JVR, Kadri and Lupul are legit top 6 talents. They showed it in the playoffs by taking the big bad Boston Bruins to the limit.

This team has the talent, but the players, for whatever reason, are hestitant to show it. They aren't buying into Carlyle anymore and they're playing for themselves, not each other. The talent IS there, but mentally they aren't.

I find it funny/interesting (and you're not the only one) who claims the players talent "IS THERE" but the coaching talent isn't.

Same coach as last year no? Did he lose his talent but the players didn't?

Time to stop pinning this on the coach and other off ice personel. This lies with all those talented players.
 

GordieHoweHatTrick

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Sep 20, 2009
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I find it funny/interesting (and you're not the only one) who claims the players talent "IS THERE" but the coaching talent isn't.

Same coach as last year no? Did he lose his talent but the players didn't?

Time to stop pinning this on the coach and other off ice personel. This lies with all those talented players.

The player talent is there RELATIVE to what it used to be in Toronto and this team is playing like one of those bygone teams.
 

Trapper

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Nov 21, 2013
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Forget about the players. Who cares. I don't even care to bash them. They are what they are. It's the organization. How can you support and take management seriously when they say the want to win a cup but refuse to do what is necessary to get the elite pieces.
How can you suck so bad for the last 10 years and not come away with at least one of Tavares,Stamkos,Crosby,Malkin,Toews etc.
You have to finish low until you hit those pieces or you go nowhere.
 

topched

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Nov 19, 2008
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Toronto, Ontario
The player talent is there RELATIVE to what it used to be in Toronto and this team is playing like one of those bygone teams.

So is the coaching talent and system.

In fact many believe that Nonis added talent to this team in the offseason.

Yet Randy all of a sudden lost his magic touch... and now this team is getting blown out.

No, I say put the blame on the players. It's not Randy's job to babysit and motivate these guys to show up for a ****ing hockey game... they're big boys getting paid big money, getting embarassed.

Give an honest effort and execute the system.
 

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