You really going to use a Craig Button aritcle? Come on man youre better than that.
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You really going to use a Craig Button aritcle? Come on man youre better than that.
Yes, he is a prominent hockey reporter. I just read the article below which discussed his thoughts on Bouchard and they are near identical to mine!! He agrees with me.
View from Edmonton: Is Evan Bouchard 'not close' to NHL ready?
Don't be one of those guys who call certain prominant prognosticators idiots because you disagree with their opinion. Button is TSN's scouting subject matter expert. His opinion matters.
That article is also Craig Button
Don't be one of those guys who call certain prominant prognosticators idiots because you disagree with their opinion. Button is TSN's scouting subject matter expert. His opinion matters.
And his opinion happens to be the same as mine. Pace of play, slow decision making.... these are things that take time.
No one is saying Bouchard sucks. He's just not NHL ready. And for the record, neither is Romanov or Dobson.
I didnt call him an idiot but he is one, its well known in the hockey community. His NHL GM legacy is the guy who bought out MSL
his prospect articles are all trash, since day one. Go back and read any of his Craigs - list's for a good laugh.I didnt call him an idiot but he is one, its well known in the hockey community. His NHL GM legacy is the guy who bought out MSL
Ok, so you are one of those guys who trashes a subject matter expert when his opinion of your player is not in high esteem.
You have yet to refute the arguments i have presented on Bouchard. He is a good passer and has a great point shot. But his pace of play, decision making is slow as is his quickness / foot speed, particularly he first few steps. In the two venues where higher level of competition were encountered (WJHC and NHL) he was not up to par. He has a ways to go before becoming NHL ready. And as i said earlier, so do players like Romanov and Dobson and Sandin. They all are not NHL ready and shouldn't be rushed into the NHL.
A good model for player development is what the Flyers did with Phillipe Myers.
I dont feel like looking for articles but im sure you or other fans could find a bunch.
Im not saying he is ready for 25 mins a night in a top pairing role.
I expect him to play 13-14 mins in a sheltered bottom pairing role + PP time. For that he is ready, also making him NHL ready.
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Lol as if Button is the authority on prospects.
He puts all of his stock in international events, it’s actually lazy.
What is lazy is your lack of input to this debate. Clearly you have nothing to add other than you disagree and hate the source i provided of a subject matter expert who agrees with my assessment to a T.
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Don’t hate him and I contributed by saying he places all of his stock in international events. Nice try.
Yikes...Didnt realize he was that bad! Nevermind Wings have enough slow defensemen...We will keep AA...moving on!
You arent getting AA or larkin for that proposal!!Nurse is not available for anything less than a colossal overpay. Detroit would have to be willing to move Larkin straight up.
Am I doing this right?
Seriously tho Nurse isn’t available in any way.
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I didnt call him an idiot but he is one, its well known in the hockey community. His NHL GM legacy is the guy who bought out MSL
Which GM picked him up when he had to clear waivers for his buyout? That's right...none of them did. Guess he wasn't the only one that underestimated where they league would head and how smaller players would become more effective.
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Button is a clown. There is a reason he was never rehired in ANY capacity to an NHL team. His draft rankings always have controversial picks, as does this latest piece of trash. It’s all about getting clicks for him.
Burke was just raving about Bouchard a couple days ago on TV or radio, I can’t remember which show.
He needs to improve his skating no doubt. I’d like to see him in the AHL for half the year at least, but he didn’t look out of place in limited minutes. A few brain farts for sure, but so did Jones et al.
He is miles better than some of the other trash on the Oilers blueline, sadly.
Burke was just raving about Bouchard a couple days ago on TV or radio, I can’t remember which show.
He needs to improve his skating no doubt. I’d like to see him in the AHL for half the year at least, but he didn’t look out of place in limited minutes. A few brain farts for sure, but so did Jones et al.
He is miles better than some of the other trash on the Oilers blueline, sadly.
AA is going anywhere?? Wings are not trading their core young nucleus: Larkin, AA, Mantha, Cholowski or Hronek the other players maybe fair game!! Enough of posts of fleecing from other teams for nothing, this is getting funny. Real fans dont expect RNH or Drai either!!
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You really want to go there? So if that’s the case Bob McKenzie, probably the most respected hockey insider/mind, had him rated at number 7 in his draft class just 6 months ago. Are you telling me a 19 year old defenseman has fallen that far in 6 months?
I wouldn’t believe everything you read
I did mention the players on LTIR. You didn't read my post, or at not least all of it. Whatever. I don't see any point in kicking mud on the wings shoes. If you guys are happy with how things are and they are trending the way you like, cool.
In all seriousness are those two guys never coming off of LTIR? I kind of get that vibe.
Couple things:
Craig Button is now a professional contrarian. He's the guy who puts up a draft list that is completely off the board, and then points at the one player he picks that outplays their draft position as proof of his genius.
Bob McKenzie is a great reporter and insider, but NHL scout he is not. His rankings don't carry much weight either.
Basically, when talking about young players, even professional scouts often get it very wrong, so using these prognostications as proof of anything doesn't really fly.
Craig Button is now a professional contrarian. He's the guy who puts up a draft list that is completely off the board, and then points at the one player he picks that outplays their draft position as proof of his genius.
Bob McKenzie is a great reporter and insider, but NHL scout he is not. His rankings don't carry much weight either.
Basically, when talking about young players, even professional scouts often get it very wrong, so using these prognostications as proof of anything doesn't really fly.
McKenzie doesn't post his opinion on the players. He goes and talks to a bunch of scouts and ranks based on that.
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We're sorry Mrs. Button, your son is wonderful.
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No Franzen is still dealing with issues from his concussions. He should of never came back last time. Zetterberg is litretired with back issues.
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