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OiledUp · Jun 27, 2014

Burnt Biscuits said:
Some pretty noticeable cherry picking in there. Talent is there for sure, but he's the kind of player where I'd weight the interview a lot higher then I normally would. Robert Nilsson and Linus Omark had NHL skill, but they were lacking the character to adapt their games to be good NHL players, his wheels look better so I doubt it will be as much of an issue for him, but of the 2nd tier guys I would take Ehlers over him for sure.

His skating and more importantly his hockey IQ is higher than those two so I'm not too worried. Much more driven as well.

Jumptheshark · Jun 27, 2014

one thing I have found interesting is that a few places have said that a guy like Bennett or Draistl could go as low as 10 next draft

SK13 · Jun 27, 2014

bozwell said:
one thing I have found interesting is that a few places have said that a guy like Bennett or Draistl could go as low as 10 next draft

Exaggeration. 6'1 and 6'2 forwards who have top line potential and score 100 points in the dub wouldn't fall out of the top-10 in any draft.

Next year is pretty amazing at the top-end, but not that amazing.

MettleMcOiler · Jun 27, 2014

wrong thread

Crabapple · Jun 27, 2014

Excited to see who we pick tomorrow, but not overly nervous. I like everyone in our range

Mr Positive · Jun 27, 2014

SK13 said:
Unless you got the hook-up, there's no good reason to think this.

The only thing separating different teams' draft lists is need. We have several players like Reinhart. Absolutely nothing said by management indicated they are looking for someone like Reinhart, unlike Draisaitl, Ekblad, and Bennett

Dorian2 · Jun 27, 2014

Crabapple said:
Excited to see who we pick tomorrow, but not overly nervous. I like everyone in our range

Yeah...that's the weird thing about this draft. It doesn't matter who falls to #3, they are all talent at a position we need to fill.

Might still be the matter of getting the pick of the litter though.

McAsuno · Jun 27, 2014

Florida is going to be quite a wild card. They passed up on Drouin and Jones for Barkov last year and Talon's interview with Duthie on TSN was interesting.He said Florida has a lot of young prospects at D already and Ekblad could "compliment" that group. He then said they are hurting in scoring and want a winger to go with their crop of centres. Take that with a grain of salt, but I would think talon is leaning towards Bennett over Ekblad or would rather trade down to the 5-10 range, get a nhler and another pick, then draft dal colle/virtanen or another goal scorer, which could potentially leaves us with Ekblad, assuming Buffalo takes any of the other centres..

SK13 · Jun 27, 2014

Mr Positive said:
The only thing separating different teams' draft lists is need.

Again, this is an odd thing to say without having heard some things that have not been made public.

The Oilers have essentially supported the idea that there are four players at the top of this draft. While there's murmurings of them liking Draisatl and a general feeling that Ekblad is the guy they want to drop, I have no indication whatsoever that they prefer Bennett over Reinhart or vice versa.

We have several players like Reinhart. Absolutely nothing said by management indicated they are looking for someone like Reinhart, unlike Draisaitl, Ekblad, and Bennett

I'm not sure we have one player like Sam Reinhart, mind you.

dustrock · Jun 27, 2014

So Ekblad might be a great RHD and PP guy and this is a bad thing?

I mean, we're turning our noses up at the possibility of drafting Ekblad or acquiring Phaneuf, even though we had by far and away the worst D core in the league last year?

Man what movie are you living in and how much does it cost.

Supermassive · Jun 27, 2014

Mr Positive said:
The only thing separating different teams' draft lists is need. We have several players like Reinhart. Absolutely nothing said by management indicated they are looking for someone like Reinhart, unlike Draisaitl, Ekblad, and Bennett

Could be deception. I really don't see anything to be gained by telegraphing your favoured players. Perhaps Reinhart is the target after all.

Aceboogie · Jun 27, 2014

dustrock said:
So Ekblad might be a great RHD and PP guy and this is a bad thing?

I mean, we're turning our noses up at the possibility of drafting Ekblad or acquiring Phaneuf, even though we had by far and away the worst D core in the league last year?

Man what movie are you living in and how much does it cost.

The thing that scares me about Ekblad is that he lived off the PP in junior, signalling he may not be able to put up too many EV points in the NHL. Although if he was able to kick start the PP and make a living off that I wouldnt have to much of a problem.

The difference between Ekblad and Phanuef is Ekblad is a rock defensively (voted best defensive D by the coaches), whereas Phanuef was always seen as a offensive D (much like Dumba)

Ekblad will always have superior defensive value

oilman9482 · Jun 27, 2014

Psycho Dad said:
Could be deception. I really don't see anything to be gained by telegraphing your favoured players. Perhaps Reinhart is the target after all.

I hope we get Reinhart.

Roof Daddy · Jun 27, 2014

Speed220BChalavan said:
Not high on Ekblad.

http://lowetide.ca/blog/2014/06/ekblad-the-new-souray.html

Alot of concerns that his offense was powerplay based.

I don't think you can go wrong with a right handed center with vision like Reinhart. Would be thrilled, and hoping he drops to #3.

What do you expect on a team lacking dynamic players? They had Athanasiou, then a bunch of meh up front. In that comparison they use Seth Jones, who played for a powerhouse Hawks team with multiple 100 pt guys (2 with 120, one with 110). Athanasiou had 95 this year, next closest forward was in the 70's. Plus Jones doesn't have the shot Ekblad has, a trigger man will always factor in more on the PP. I think it's getting ridiculous how people are over analyzing this kid. Souray comparisons? The kid is a better skater at 18 than Souray ever was, and by a wide margin.

Nuge faced similar criticism in his rookie year (numbers inflated by the PP). Anyone think he might only be a 3rd line center? :shakehead

McDNicks17 · Jun 27, 2014

topchowda said:
The thing that scares me about Ekblad is that he lived off the PP in junior, signalling he may not be able to put up too many EV points in the NHL. Although if he was able to kick start the PP and make a living off that I wouldnt have to much of a problem.

The difference between Ekblad and Phanuef is Ekblad is a rock defensively (voted best defensive D by the coaches), whereas Phanuef was always seen as a offensive D (much like Dumba)

Ekblad will always have superior defensive value

I don't know if it should worry you too much.

In Doughty's draft year, 37(9g/28a) of his 50 points were on the PP.

I'd look up more, but the OHL site makes looking up PPG/PPA super annoying and I'm lazy haha.

BarDownBobo · Jun 27, 2014

Psychoil said:
Question, not sure if it goes here or not but....

If vancouver does end up trading for number 1, are they taking ekblad or would they take a center?

Reinhart. The guy who's ranked as the top forward from most scouts, and from North Vancouver to boot? Perfect guy to be the face of the rebuild.

Petes2424 · Jun 27, 2014

Mr Positive said:
There is a real chance that both Ekblad and Drasaitl are gone by #3

And that might end up being a great thing depending on Reinhart's value. I've thrown it out there before. What if a team like the Islanders is in love with Reinhart? Maybe the Canucks? They have pieces they'd probably move to get him. I'm perfectly ok with dropping to five and taking Dal Colle if he's still there or my pick would be Perlini in any circumstance at 5-6. If it meant they'd get a Nelson or a Tanev?

There's all kinds of opportunities if Reinhart drops to 3. What if Anaheim put together a package to get to 3 for Reinhart? They not only have the goods but Reinhart would fit with them perfectly.

BarDownBobo · Jun 27, 2014

The most interesting scenario for me would be if it goes Ekblad at 1 and Bennett at 2. Do you take the RH center in Reinhart, or the bigger body in Draisaitl? Or do you try and get say the Isles and Canucks into a bidding war for Reinhart, pick up some extra picks and quite possibly still get Draisaitl at 5 or 6.

s7ark · Jun 27, 2014

Dorian2 said:
Yeah...that's the weird thing about this draft. It doesn't matter who falls to #3, they are all talent at a position we need to fill.

Might still be the matter of getting the pick of the litter though.

I agree. I may have a preference as to who they take at 3 between the two choices they have, but I will cheer whoever they do.

That being said, I am glad Bennett is making a late charge on the draft rankings. I expect that he's going to be a hell of a player, but he is somewhat slender in the shoulders. I think Ekblad, Reinhart and Draisaitl might be better fits for the Oilers.

AlowlyMcOilersfan · Jun 27, 2014

I think the title of the thread should be changed. :sarcasm:

I'm hoping for some trade action to liven up the event.

CanadianSuperPromise · Jun 27, 2014

SK13 · Jun 27, 2014

Thinking of Ekblad kind of makes me nostalgic for the best of Souray and Chris Pronger.

Feels like years since we have had a physical, gamer of a D with a big shot.

As we get closer to this thing, I am wanting him more and more.

McAsuno · Jun 27, 2014

SK13 said:
Thinking of Ekblad kind of makes me nostalgic for the best of Souray and Chris Pronger.

Feels like years since we have had a physical, gamer of a D with a big shot.

As we get closer to this thing, I am wanting him more and more.

I'll feel bad for you, if he gets taken by the time the oilers draft then. Heck, I'll feel the same way. :laugh:

CanadianSuperPromise · Jun 27, 2014

SK13 said:
Thinking of Ekblad kind of makes me nostalgic for the best of Souray and Chris Pronger.

Feels like years since we have had a physical, gamer of a D with a big shot.

As we get closer to this thing, I am wanting him more and more.

I think it's a safe bet that Florida is going to grab Ekblad.

AlowlyMcOilersfan · Jun 27, 2014

RisingSun said:
I think it's a safe bet that Florida is going to grab Ekblad.

is it though? Wasn't Jones supposed to go 2nd or even 3rd?

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