Post-Game Talk: Oh, Leafs. Oh, Oh, Leafs: Arizona 3, Leafs 1.

[wmark]

If you don't have a sense of humour you shouldn't be a Leafs fan.

100% in agreement.

 

[Liminality]

I'm glad I'm not alone.

Everyone is quick to jump on goalies. Yeah Bernier had a bad game but it's masking the fact that everyone had a bad game.

 

[Slot]

Yeah guys! Let's not put up a fight!



I guess we're one of the few places in all the world where fans sang the team to lose. It's not so smart to boo during a timeout that could possible get the team back in the game.

btw, you ought to understand 1984 to actually make sense of what you said.

You forgot the two minutes of hate?
Where everyone was told what emotion to have when? I understand 1984 perhaps you need to brush up.

 

[PanniniClaus]

I am not seeing as much from the posters trying to convince us there is a super new system with 5 guys in the picture and more mid ice breakouts. Shots against are down,

Horacheck hockey. I can almost taste it. Pile of garbage. My god Carlyle must be thankful he got turfed

 

[wmark]

I'm glad I'm not alone.

Could also blame Bozak for not winning the faceoff.

 

[tp71]

You seem to be intent on deflecting blame off of Bernier.

In your opinion was the 120 ft shot and the soft short side goal 2nd goals weak goals? Leafs were up 1-0 and in control until that happened.

Don't straw man, tell it like is is. 3 weak goals in the 3rd were Bernier's fault were they not? And if not who was to blame for thos goals?

No, I'm intent on laying blame where blame is deserved. Difference. I'll underline this for you so you can see it: I'm not absolving Bernier of blame

What I am saying here...sorry, the Leafs allowed 21 shots on goal in the 2nd period and were in control? In what world?

What I am saying here is the Leafs allowed 45 shots. They scored one goal. Those are facts. Bernier allowed two soft goals. That is also a fact. You cannot possibly call the third goal weak (but it seems you are going to try). The team as a whole played lousy. Bernier for two shots. It is a team loss.

 

[Liminality]

You seem to be intent on deflecting blame off of Bernier. This is about Bernier and the goals he gave up to lose the game. They were all stoppable shots.

In your opinion was the 120 ft shot and the soft short side goal 2nd goals weak goals? Leafs were up 1-0 and in control until that happened.

Don't straw man, tell it like is is. 3 weak goals in the 3rd were Bernier's fault were they not? And if not who was to blame for those goals?

The Leafs were never in control this game. At the end of the 2nd the shots were 32 to 15 for Phoenix.

 

[pooleboy]

You seem to be intent on deflecting blame off of Bernier. This is about Bernier and the goals he gave up to lose the game. They were all stoppable shots.

In your opinion was the 120 ft shot and the soft short side goal 2nd goals weak goals? Leafs were up 1-0 and in control until that happened.

Don't straw man, tell it like is is. 3 weak goals in the 3rd were Bernier's fault were they not? And if not who was to blame for those goals?

I blame kadri, guy never won a faceoff



Can't be bozaks fault, he was on the ice for kessels goal so.....


Has to be a combo of kadri/berniers fault, although, without bernier the game could have been 5-1

 

[Daisy Jane]

Holy crap, we're 1-10-1 this month. That's a total opposite of the 10-1-1 stretch we had earlier. Unbelievable.

wow.

 

[Bill Waters*]

clarktard must go.
At least scratch him or something, friggin guy gets a free pass.

He should be emotionally attacked until he retires

 

[The Winter Soldier]

No, I'm intent on laying blame where blame is deserved. Difference. I'll underline this for you so you can see it: I'm not absolving Bernier of blame

What I am saying here...sorry, the Leafs allowed 21 shots on goal in the 2nd period and were in control? In what world?

What I am saying here is the Leafs allowed 45 shots. They scored one goal. Those are facts. Bernier allowed two soft goals. That is also a fact. You cannot possibly call the third goal weak (but it seems you are going to try). The team as a whole played lousy. Bernier for two shots. It is a team loss.

Bernier played bad when it mattered. I think you finally admitted it. He was not good enough to bail this team out against a terrible team in the 3rd.

So the Leafs cannot outscore bad goaltending anymore under Horachek. Bernier said it himself, he has less margin for error now that the Leafs scoring has dried up. I am sure he would shoulder the blame for this loss. He's a man, he doesn't need to blame anyone but himself or make excuses.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Bernier played bad when it mattered. I think you finally admitted it. He was not good enough to bail this team out against a terrible team.

So the Leafs cannot outscore bad goaltending anymore under Horachek. Bernier said it himself, he has less margin for error now that the Leafs scoring has dried up. I am sure he would shoulder the blame for this loss. He's a man, he doesn't need to blame anyone but himself or make excuses.

Bernier has said that any game he gives up 3 or more goals is a "bad game" for him. That doesn't mean every time he gives up 3 or more goals he had a "bad game"

 

[CelticDruid]

trade them all. gut it clean and throw the carcass on Bay ST.

 

[brodano]

He should be emotionally attacked until he retires

It is a crappy thing to say but one of these has to happen:
1) Long term injury
2) Retain salary and trade
or
3) Healthy scratch

 

[tp71]

Bernier played bad when it mattered. I think you finally admitted it. He was not good enough to bail this team out against a terrible team.

So the Leafs cannot outscore bad goaltending anymore under Horachek. Bernier said it himself, he has less margin for error now that the Leafs scoring has dried up. I am sure he would shoulder the blame for this loss. He's a man, he doesn't need to blame anyone but himself or make excuses.

And I'm not Bernier. I don't have to worry about who I blame. Score more than one goal and I'll lay blame in other areas. As it stands now its a team loss. The team is to blame. As I said all along, it's a team loss. Is Bernier not part of the team?

Nice thinly veiled shot at saying I can't man up and blame who you think needs to be blamed though.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

And I'm not Bernier. I don't have to worry about who I blame. Score more than one goal and I'll lay blame in other areas. As it stands now its a team loss. The team is to blame. As I said all along, it's a team loss. Is Bernier not part of the team?

Correction, Leafs would have needed to score 4 goals tonight to outscore Berniers' soft goals. That's above league average BTW.

 

[tp71]

Correction, Leafs would have needed to score 4 goals tonight to outscore Berniers's soft goals.

If they scored 3 like a team should be able to they'd be in OT and who knows what would have happened at that point. As I maintained all along. And it doesn't matter if that's below league average. You want to be a contending team, score more than two goals. Score more than 15 in 11 games.

 

[NiL8r87]

clarktard must go.
At least scratch him or something, friggin guy gets a free pass.

Free what now?

 

[Daisy Jane]

But to blame it all on him when the team scores one goal? To blame it all on him when he's bailed the team out night after night after one bad game? Where's JVR, Kessel, Bozak, Kadri, Santorelli, Komarov etc to score a goal when the goalie has a bad game? Where were they to bail him out for once?

i'm not blaming anyone.
I am pleased as punch with the result of this game.

but meh. carry on.

 

[Ratboy]

guys, you're splitting hairs over a ****** team and a ****** performance. its best to let it go.

 

[tp71]

i'm not blaming anyone.
I am pleased as punch with the result of this game.

but meh. carry on.

Well good for you then.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

If they scored 3 like a team should be able to they'd be in OT and who knows what would have happened at that point. As I maintained all along.

Yep Leafs would have had to score above the league average to win tonight's game due to shoddy goaltending. I think I said this. Tells you something huh?

 

[tp71]

Yep Leafs would have had to score above the league average to win tonight's game due to shoddy goaltending. I think I said this. Tells you something huh?

And every now and again it would be nice to see them bail out the goaltender for a change. If they can't score more than two goals against the Coyotes and allow 45 shots, they could have Price, Lundqvist, Quick, Rinne in net and they aren't winning tonight.

 

[Muston Atthews]

Yep Leafs would have had to score above the league average to win tonight's game due to shoddy goaltending. I think I said this. Tells you something huh?

You're too much

 

[Al14]

Stayed away from Game Day Thread! Didn't miss it at all!

Stay strong Leafs, you bunch of friggen LOSERS!

Good game for... never mind!

I hate all this losing!