Offseason Thread vol. XI - Friend of a Friend Edition

[HSF]

Stewart is 26.... he is only entering his prime now

 

[Sensinitis]

I think you are hoping for the Lecavalier of 5 - 10 years ago.. He hasn't been that good for a few years now.

I wouldn't mind him on a one or two year deal, but no way for 4.

No, the Lecavalier of 5-10 years ago would be our #1 center and would assure us a playoff spot, and probably a round 1 win.

You keep talking about these players like age and skill erosion wasn't a factor. Legwand, Lecavalier, Stewart.....they are all damaged goods. We got rid of Spezza, so we need to start fresh with young players who are still on the upswing. Especially if we are not going to spend.

How is Stewart damaged goods? He's 26 and would probably flourish in our system, like he did with the Avs when he got 60+ points and 25+ goals.

 

[HSF]

It is actually pretty stupid that some people are comparing Vinny and Spezza

both are completely different players who will play different roles on their respective teams


Not saying we should get Vinny but actually watch a player play before just runinng off on stats.


The same for Stewart.

 

[BonkTastic]

Stewart is 26.... he is only entering his prime now

So is Devin Setoguchi.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Stewart is 26.... he is only entering his prime now

If by prime you mean more laziness and less scoring, than I agree.

This is not a guy you want around a young team. We need hard working players because we lack elite skill at this point.

 

[Smash88]

No, the Lecavalier of 5-10 years ago would be our #1 center and would assure us a playoff spot, and probably a round 1 win.

Sorry should have just said 5 years ago.

Either way, doesn't change what Lecavalier is today.

 

[HSF]

So is Devin Setoguchi.

Setoguchi has a broken down body

 

[HSF]

Sorry should have just said 5 years ago.

Either way, doesn't change what Lecavalier is today.

a depth center who provides intangibles?


isnt that exactly what we need ?

 

[L'Aveuglette]

It is actually pretty stupid that some people are comparing Vinny and Spezza

both are completely different players who will play different roles on their respective teams


Not saying we should get Vinny but actually watch a player play before just runinng off on stats.


The same for Stewart.

Threading water is exactly what we would be doing by switching Spezza for Levavalier. They aren't exactly the same type of player but Vinny doesn't offer us anything we truly lack if we are to go young and aren't aiming high for now.

 

[HSF]

If by prime you mean more laziness and less scoring, than I agree.

This is not a guy you want around a young team. We need hard working players because we lack elite skill at this point.

big woop he didn't work out in St louis (he did lead their team in goal scoring in the half season) he was one of the best powerforwards in the game when he was playing in a more open system like the Avs

I guess Macarthur sucks cause he was called very inconsistant coming out of toronto yet people want more players like him now here.

 

[Sensinitis]

I like the idea of Lecav because even if he doesn't play super good (40-50 pts), that means Zibanejad would steal his spot which is good.

 

[HSF]

Threading water is exactly what we would be doing by switching Spezza for Levavalier. They aren't exactly the same type of player but Vinny doesn't offer us anything we truly lack if we are to go young and aren't aiming high for now.

He adds center depth and vet leadership..he is actually the perfect mentor for Zibby due to how he plays.


If Zibby can't play 2nd line mins then you throw in Vinny. Pretty simple to understand if you ask me.

 

[We Want the Cup 2010]

Looks like something might be going down... All the scouts and brass are huddled around Murray on the phone at development camp apparently.

 

[HSF]

I like the idea of Lecav because even if he doesn't play super good (40-50 pts), that means Zibanejad would steal his spot which is good.

exactly and if Zibby has growing pains we have viable option to put into the 2nd line center role

 

[Do Make Say Think]

About time!!

Give us something to be happy about

 

[Upgrayedd]

LOL @ philly fan getting all angry and worked up that we won't take their garbage for them...just because we are broke doesn't mean we are dumb

 

[Micklebot]

It is actually pretty stupid that some people are comparing Vinny and Spezza

both are completely different players who will play different roles on their respective teams


Not saying we should get Vinny but actually watch a player play before just runinng off on stats.


The same for Stewart.

I'd be ok with acquiring one or both so long as we pay nothing remotely close to a premium for them.

Vinny with 1-2 Mil retained would be a fine addition; He could step into the top 6 when an injury occurs and play a support role th rest of the time. No, he's not a top 6 guy anymore, but I think he's still worth the actual salary. If Philly retains 1 mil, he'd only be costing us 2.6 per year on average.

As for Stewart, he should cost penuts. I'd rather have him in the lineup most nights than Greening or Neil.

 

[TonySoprano11]

Threading water is exactly what we would be doing by switching Spezza for Levavalier. They aren't exactly the same type of player but Vinny doesn't offer us anything we truly lack if we are to go young and aren't aiming high for now.

Ummmm, how about leadership? Something Spezza couldn't provide this team.

 

[Super Cake]

LOL @ philly fan getting all angry and worked up that we won't take their garbage for them...just because we are broke doesn't mean we are dumb

I don't understand why philly fans take pleasure in ripping on our team. I understand why leaf or hab fans would, but i am confused why philly fans enjoy doing it. Are they that insecure that they just feel the need to insult other teams?

 

[Smash88]

I don't understand why philly fans take pleasure in ripping on our team. I understand why leaf or hab fans would, but i am confused why philly fans enjoy doing it. Are they that insecure that they just feel the need to insult other teams?

It's Philly fan. LOL

 

[BigRig4]

Looks like something might be going down... All the scouts and brass are huddled around Murray on the phone at development camp apparently.

Are you there??

 

[L'Aveuglette]

LOL @ philly fan getting all angry and worked up that we won't take their garbage for them...just because we are broke doesn't mean we are dumb

Read most of the posts in this thread. Many here think their garbage would fit perfectly in our top 6. :halp:

 

[We Want the Cup 2010]

Are you there??

Guy on twitter is. I saw it senschirp's account. Could be nothing, could be something. Possibly Prince.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I went to their board

I go to the video game board and it's really funny seeing posters I get along with on there trash talk my team and, by extension, myself

 

[sens83]

I still stand by my comment, half of this fan base is delusional.

Vinny is perfect for this team right now. He provides a veteran presence and leadership on a team full of young kids. Sure he's got 4 years left, but to be honest you still need to ice a team. Icing a team of rookies isn't that great of a move. This at least provides a shot for the younger guys to develop properly.