Speculation: Offseason Thread II: ideas, proposals, general roster discussion

[EspenK]

So with Koivu now on board and probable internal cap ..

Let’s say we get PLD and Gav signed up in the next week ... is any target of Cirelli now unrealistic?

I don't see why we would want him after adding Domi & Koivu

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

I don't see us signing any of the remaining UFAs. Imagining Jarmo is keeping his ears to the ground to upgrade a winger if the opportunity arises.

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

I don't like the return for Murray either but we all know "healthy" Murray is a year-in year-out gamble. The current Murray replacements could very well get plenty of ice time this year even if Murray had been kept.

Are we better with healthy Murray? Absolutely.
Would we be getting healthy Murray? History says probably not.

Braintrust clearly sees the saved money as more valuable. Either for 1) room to resign current players 2) flexibility to add someone(s) or sadly 3) just because the organization needs to save money. Pandemic hasn't been good for business

 

[MFRONE]

Chinakhov offered a new 3 year deal by Omsk...what a disaster if he takes that offer

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

Chinakhov offered a new 3 year deal by Omsk...what a disaster if he takes that offer

Works well with the internal cap if we don't have to pay him.

 

[DJA]

When will we get the Athletic article that the CBJ were “blindsided” by Chinakhov’s decision to re-sign with KHL like Gavrikov did?

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

Chinakhov offered a new 3 year deal by Omsk...what a disaster if he takes that offer

If this happens, another genius move by Jarmo to draft a guy who won't contribute for at least 4 years if he signs it.

 

[MAHJ71]

Chinakhov signing that would the the perfect kick in the balls to cap this past week.

 

[Fro]

We talk about porty and he being disconnected...cbj prospects posted that yesterday and scooped porty by 21 hours

 

[MAHJ71]

We talk about porty and he being disconnected...cbj prospects posted that yesterday and scooped porty by 21 hours

No no no, Pronman is actually his only source!

 

[Fro]

No no no, Pronman is actually his only source!

Thats right only the athletic writers can get scoops

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

We talk about porty and he being disconnected...cbj prospects posted that yesterday and scooped porty by 21 hours

the real "scoop" belongs to the KHL Diaries twitter feed.

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

I guess we won't be 'Russian' any of our forwards into the league

 

[CharlotteJacket]

Whoever our next GM is might have quite the gold mine on his hands.

 

[GoJackets1]

THE SKY IS FALLING

 

[MoeBartoli]

That’s kinda false though. The 18-19 team was very much capable of winning the cup, we got a bit unlucky with the Bruins.

Agree. That was the one team with the talent and grit to win the cup....easily the most complete team we’ve put on the ice.

 

[MoeBartoli]

If a core piece of our strategy is growing the team from within, Jarmo has no business doing a bridge deal with PLD. It needs to be a long term deal that locks up our top 6 center spot.

Under the same subject heading, if our top draft choice re-signs with the KHL its a bad look as we not only reached, we drafted someone without an intent to sign....hoping that just nothing more than a negotiation obstacle.

 

[DarkandStormy]

Chinakhov signing that would the the perfect kick in the balls to cap this past week.

Reports are he won't decide until after KHL season.

 

[DarkandStormy]

I'm assuming, barring any other trades or UFA signings, something like:
Texier-Dubois-Bjorkstrand
Nyquist-Domi-Atkinson
Jenner-Koivu-Foligno
Robinson-Nash-Foudy/Bemstrom
Grigorenko and Stenlund competing for spots as well. Matteau and Gerbe likely to Cleveland.

Werenski-Jones
Gavrikov-Savard
Kukan-Peeke
Harrington

Our defensive depth is...just gone for no reason. Well, no discernable reason beyond an internal cap from ownership.

 

[Finner]

I'm assuming, barring any other trades or UFA signings, something like:
Texier-Dubois-Bjorkstrand
Nyquist-Domi-Atkinson
Jenner-Koivu-Foligno
Robinson-Nash-Foudy/Bemstrom
Grigorenko and Stenlund competing for spots as well. Matteau and Gerbe likely to Cleveland.

Werenski-Jones
Gavrikov-Savard
Kukan-Peeke
Harrington

Our defensive depth is...just gone for no reason. Well, no discernable reason beyond an internal cap from ownership.

If this is our lineup when the season starts im pissed. But im optimistic about Jarmo and im pretty sure he will do trade or two. We have too many forwards and too less defenders. 1 Dman and 1 elite winger thanks!

 

[Cowumbus]

Choice A)

Draft an 18 year old out of the CHL.
Signs ELC at 19.
Age 19-20 he plays in the AHL (NHL if good)
Age 21 plays full time in the NHL.
At 21/22 signs a 2-3 year extension most likely under 3 mill AAV.
Age 24/25 signs 6 year contract.

Choice B)

Draft 19 year old overeager playing in KHL.
Age 19-22 signs 3 year KHL extension.
Age 23 *possibly comes over to NHL.
Age 23 signs weird 2 year ELC.
Age 25 signs ??? idk

 

[MissADD]

After sleeping on it, I'm not as mad as I was yesterday about not going after UFAs. Jarmo had always been better in the trade market and I have a feeling that we will use one of Korpi/Elvis to get a winger.

Patrick Kane anyone.

 

[Cowumbus]

I'm assuming, barring any other trades or UFA signings, something like:
Texier-Dubois-Bjorkstrand
Nyquist-Domi-Atkinson
Jenner-Koivu-Foligno
Robinson-Nash-Foudy/Bemstrom
Grigorenko and Stenlund competing for spots as well. Matteau and Gerbe likely to Cleveland.

Werenski-Jones
Gavrikov-Savard
Kukan-Peeke
Harrington

Our defensive depth is...just gone for no reason. Well, no discernable reason beyond an internal cap from ownership.

Just my opinion but if Koivu is our 3C we are screwed, I would rather have Wennberg at that point. Koivu was 4C for the Wild in the playoffs and our centers are much better than theirs. I hope Grigorenko locks down the 3C spot. Our team can’t score so we need to keep guys in the lineup that can (or have the potential to) like Bemstrom. There also is no point in playing Foudy/Bemstrom on the 4th line, at that point send them to Cleveland.

Also I’m not sure why Texier is on our top line, what has he done to deserve it?

 

[punk_o_holic]

After sleeping on it, I'm not as mad as I was yesterday about not going after UFAs. Jarmo had always been better in the trade market and I have a feeling that we will use one of Korpi/Elvis to get a winger.

Patrick Kane anyone.

Well apparently the original core 4(him, Toews, Keith, and Seabrook) are pissed about the rebuild and felt blindsided. He needs to demand a trade and waive to Columbus! Hey, we were surprised when Saad was traded here. Then were surprised when Panarin was traded here. Why not make it a trifecta and shock us about Kane.

 

[CoachWithNoTeam]

I am not individually happy about losing any of those four players - Anderson, Murray, Wennberg, Nuti. But 90% if this board was begging for Wennberg to be benched. Andy and Murray combined to play 50 games last year in bottom 6 or bottom pair capacity, and Nuti had fallen to 7 on the depth chart.

I don’t see PLD and Gavrikov as the end of the off-season. But if that’s it for now I feel fine. And I really do not think that will max our our cap, it presents a chance for roster flexibility and mid season or deadline moves.

The very biggest need on the team has been addressed. We should now have two forward lines capable of creating offense. We did have to lose Murray and Nutivaara for nothing while saving some cap space, but we also would’ve been in a position that Carlsson was going to be exposed for nothing come the start of the season. I know we’ve all given up on him here, but Jarmo did say yesterday that he has earned a chance.

We’re adding Koivu and Grigorenko to the bottom 6, which gives us two great veteran 37 year old forwards.

It’s been a pretty drastic roster shift in the last year, but I think there is lots to like in there.