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Speculation: Offseason Thread #3: Literally Summer / Nothing Is Superior to Something Dumb

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Nakladals numbers are good but he's played 330 even strength minutes in his NHL career and only played 14:11 per game last year getting real soft minutes. It's really not enough to make much of a judgment. All that said he will come real cheap so there's minimal downside to taking a chance.
 

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If St. Louis is severely in cap trouble (which I have to check), then there should be some negotiating leverage on Gorton's side against St. Louis--Shattenkirk is going to walk, they need cap space, and they have an in house replacement for him...

Makes too much sense for St. Louis to move him now, especially if they're going to buy more into their forward corps.
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Um if theyre in cap trouble how are we a fit? There is no "leverage" here. We would need to have a third party take one of our contracts. Thats where you lose that so-called leverage you thought you gained over STL, to another team hanging it over us.
 
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Oh FFS, do not trade valuable assets for a guy you know wants to come here, and who you can get for just $ in one year's time. There are no quick fixes for this team; we need to build for the future. If you want Shatty, get him next offseason. In the meantime, use Nash to replenish the prospect/pick/young player cupboard. :rant::banghead:
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I'm not advocating trading for him but I would almost guarantee that the team trades for him would sign him and keep him from becoming UFA. If a team like Boston trades for him they will very easily give in to his asking price to keep him from ever getting to the market.
 
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BleedinBLUEsince92 said:
I'm not advocating trading for him but I would almost guarantee that the team trades for him would sign him and keep him from becoming UFA. If a team like Boston trades for him they will very easily give in to his asking price to keep him from ever getting to the market.
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Shattenkirk has not made an MSL declaration. He's stated a preference, and if you can lock him down at less than what the bidding war will be for his services, its a win. Besides, it won't be Shatty straight up for Nash. We will get a + and St. Louis has some pretty attractive +s
 
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RGY said:
Um if theyre in cap trouble how are we a fit? There is no "leverage" here. We would need to have a third party take one of our contracts. Thats where you lose that so-called leverage you thought you gained over STL, to another team hanging it over us.
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St. Louis isn't dealing Shattenkirk because they cant sign him. They're dealing him because they have Pietrangelo and Parayko on the RHS. Its like where we were with McD/Yandle/Staal/Skjei on LHS
 
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Avery16 said:
Shattenkirk has not made an MSL declaration. He's stated a preference, and if you can lock him down at less than what the bidding war will be for his services, its a win. Besides, it won't be Shatty straight up for Nash. We will get a + and St. Louis has some pretty attractive +s
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The + will come from the NYR unless they retain 50% on Nash
 
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Konamic Ice Hockey said:
The + will come from the NYR unless they retain 50% on Nash
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Maybe we would have to retain or add another body, but I still think two years of Nash has higher market value than one year of Shattenkirk. We'd get a prospect and/or pick and the prospect could be good.
 
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Avery16 said:
Maybe we would have to retain or add another body, but I still think two years of Nash has higher market value than one year of Shattenkirk. We'd get a prospect and/or pick and the prospect could be good.
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I could easily see St. Louis asking about Step or Brass in addition to Nash, but we would then be taking back some $. I could see Berglund or Sobotka being involved. Maybe the offer could see Fabbri return or another of their prospects like Ty Rattie, Jordan Schmaltz or Ian Barbashev. Hockeydb.com 'em St. Louis has a lot of pieces in the air right now.
 
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Want nothing to do with Malkin and that contract. Don't care how good he is. He's useless if he's missing 25-30 games every year.

9.5 for a part time player. Lord no
 
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The Sabres are looking for an established LD. Anyone think they might be interested in Marc Staal? Didn't Tim Murray love M. Staal when he was drafted??
 
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SA16 said:
Nakladals numbers are good but he's played 330 even strength minutes in his NHL career and only played 14:11 per game last year getting real soft minutes. It's really not enough to make much of a judgment. All that said he will come real cheap so there's minimal downside to taking a chance.
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It's why I think he's a potential untapped resource. If he came to camp for this team, he'd win a starting spot assuming coming into camp the 4 RHD are Klein, G, McIlrath, and Nakladal.

Well, he should win it. But ya know, Girardi bouncing back and all that garbage.
 
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I think we have to find a way to get back into the first round. You can't go 4 drafts without a first and not expect consequences eventually.
 

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It will be interesting to see how ARI operates with Chayka at the helm... imo he's either a boom or bust in very short order thanks to the way he operates.

The guy is leaking every negotiation he's had so far to the press.

Offers for the 7th.

Desire to get LD before getting Goligoski's rights.

The Hanzal situation.

It will be interesting to see how his peers react to this. NHL GMs are a traditional species that don't like their dealings being thrown out there in the media.
 

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silverfish said:
It's why I think he's a potential untapped resource. If he came to camp for this team, he'd win a starting spot assuming coming into camp the 4 RHD are Klein, G, McIlrath, and Nakladal.

Well, he should win it. But ya know, Girardi bouncing back and all that garbage.
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Would you do a 3 year $3M deal for Nakladal?
 

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silverfish said:
No. I'd give him one year at $1m and tell him to prove it.
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Okay fair enough. I wouldn't either considering he played limited minutes in a sheltered role over 33 games.

I think there are some gems in that group 6 or serviceable players that are a little older that are coming out of the AHL.

Drew Shore... Corbin Knight... Matt Tennyson... guys like that.
 
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BleedinBLUEsince92 said:
I'm not advocating trading for him but I would almost guarantee that the team trades for him would sign him and keep him from becoming UFA. If a team like Boston trades for him they will very easily give in to his asking price to keep him from ever getting to the market.
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Sounds a lot like the last time we traded for an elite offensive defenseman who was an upcoming UFA.
 
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silverfish said:
It's why I think he's a potential untapped resource. If he came to camp for this team, he'd win a starting spot assuming coming into camp the 4 RHD are Klein, G, McIlrath, and Nakladal.

Well, he should win it. But ya know, Girardi bouncing back and all that garbage.
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Oh, he'd win it. McI would be benched,dof course.
 
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