Official Coyotes 2019-2020 Roster Discussion Thread #3

[Jakey53]

Its $5 million depending on when bonus is payable. Not you but people write like the new Owner won't give a poop about wring a few million cheque to a guy walking out the door. I have never met a rich guy who just throws their money away.

You are right. A 3 mill. signing bonus. Lot's of luck trading him before the signing bonus is paid.

 

[Jakey53]

I think he meant he’ll be easier to move.

Oh, that makes sense, but he has a signing bonus, so I'm sure not many teams will want to pay that.

 

[rt]

Oh, that makes sense, but he has a signing bonus, so I'm sure not many teams will want to pay that.

Right. Again, I think the assumption is that the only way we get out from under that cap-hit is to trade him post-bonus payment.

Something like Stepan+Raanta+Hossa on bonus day to Ottawa for their 2021 7th.

 

[cobra427]

Right. Again, I think the assumption is that the only way we get out from under that cap-hit is to trade him post-bonus payment.

Something like Stepan+Raanta+Hossa on bonus day to Ottawa for their 2021 7th.

Why would Ottawa or anyone else do that?

 

[Schemp]

I wonder if the BJs would entertain the idea of trading Anderson for Fischer+? They did have trouble signing him last time, and he is getting close to UFA.

 

[YotesFan47]

I wonder if the BJs would entertain the idea of trading Anderson for Fischer+? They did have trouble signing him last time, and he is getting close to UFA.

You have to start questioning if Anderson is worth nabbing. I know Fisher isn't a lot by any stretch but he seems to fit our locker room like a glove. I think many of us thought he would be more than he is but dude is still an NHL talent and will cost us next to nothing to retain.

 

[Coyotedroppings]

Fisher: vastly underrated on these boards.

 

[Lawson of Anarchy]

Fisher: vastly underrated on these boards.

Yeah, he's still a kid with upside. Stuck in a grinder role.

 

[XX]

Losers that must be addressed ASAP: Goligoski, Stepan, Kessel, OEL. Roughly in that order. Change my mind.

 

[rt]

Losers that must be addressed ASAP: Goligoski, Stepan, Kessel, OEL. Roughly in that order. Change my mind.

I have to think Kessel is moveable. Is OEL? Could you get something for him? Goligoski maybe you could get a late pick? Maybe? Stepan has negative trade value. For sure.

 

[Grimes]

I have to think Kessel is moveable. Is OEL? Could you get something for him? Goligoski maybe you could get a late pick? Maybe? Stepan has negative trade value. For sure.

Look what Subban got. I think you could do a little better than that for OEL. Unless someone is enamored with what he was.

 

[XX]

Move OEL to Toronto if Barrie walks.

 

[Jamieh]

Move OEL to Toronto if Barrie walks.

Set at LD

 

[PainForShane]

Losers that must be addressed ASAP: Goligoski, Stepan, Kessel, OEL. Roughly in that order. Change my mind.

You know I'd include Keller and Schmaltz in here. Taking addressed to mean we 'need you to score more / generate more offense because you are crucial to the future of our team'

 

[Jamieh]

You know I'd to include Keller and Schmaltz in here. Taking addressed to mean we 'need you to score more / generate more offense because you are crucial to the future of our team'

No no those 2 are signed to great team friendly deals.

XX

 

[XX]

You know I'd include Keller and Schmaltz in here. Taking addressed to mean we 'need you to score more / generate more offense because you are crucial to the future of our team'

Keller and Schmaltz are young enough they can improve or return to form. They're also controlled assets. They're not really any different from any number of hot/cold guys other teams have. You just need to create an environment where they cannot slack off.

 

[PainForShane]

Keller and Schmaltz are young enough they can improve or return to form. They're also controlled assets. They're not really any different from any number of hot/cold guys other teams have. You just need to create an environment where they cannot slack off.

Like you said, it still needs to be addressed ASAP or this season is down the tubes (and Taylor Hall with it). Creating an environment might (should!) help the other guys too

 

[_Del_]

They've been the same players their entire career. Exception is Keller's rookie year. He's on a two year vacation. He's on a "first-place team" that is "all-in". If that isn't enough to wake him up, what is exactly? Maybe a trade, but otherwise... Very comfortable playing out there outside the circles.
Schmaltz's game is the same as it was in Chicago. Inconsistent, soft, poor defensively, reluctant to shoot.

What form are they going to return to exactly? The five game spurts that neither has been able to sustain in their careers? They are soft complimentary wingers. And we built around them and pretended/hoped they were core players.

 

[LuckyNumber11]

Keller’s contract may one day be the worst in the NHL

 

[rt]

Can anyone really picture OEL, Goligoski and Stepan as they veteran leadership core of a playoff contender? They’re passive, sleepy, wimps out there. Content to just lazily go through the motions and get it all over with already. Our leadership group is completely mailing it in.

Kessel has looked like he’s playing drunk all season. This is the worst performance he’s ever had as a hockey player at any level ever. Guy has been an elite superstar since he was 12. And now this. What the f***?

Keller and Schmaltz are delicate orchids. If the slightest environmental impurity is present, they shrivel and die.

Raanta is just broken.

 

[Edenjung]

Can we trade Rantaa and get Greiss in the Offseason.
Hill doesn't seem like a long term solution.

 

[LosPollosHermanos]

I’m not a fan of Keller’s game at all. Has not been the last 2 years. IMO, he needs to go. The things I would do to get Matthew Tkachuk on this team...

 

[Grimes]

If Tocchet is fired, will Kessel want to leave too? What type of return could he possibly bring at this point?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

If Tocchet is fired, will Kessel want to leave too?

We can only hope.

 

[mouser]