Speculation: Offer Sheet for Dougie Hamilton: worth doing?
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That is for a <= 6 year term. We go with a 7 year term and it is 4 1sts.
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I'd do either one to be honest. Hamilton will be worth 7.5M+ within a couple years and I would trade 4 1sts for a pretty much guaranteed top pairing RHD rather than use those picks and hope we draft one. We're pretty stacked on the wings, our centre depth is good now with Larkin and Sheahan for #1 and #2 and possibly Holmstrom or Athanasiou as #3, and with Hamilton our d would be great. With Ouellet, DeKeyser, Marchenko, Jensen, and possibly Sproul we should be able to make a pretty good d corps. This would really set us up for the future.
Nyquist-Larkin-Mantha
Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco
Athanasiou-Holmstrom-Pulkkinen
Helm-Glendening-Ferraro
Ouellet-Hamilton
DeKeyser-Marchenko
Smith-Jensen
Sproul
Mrazek
Pretty much everyone there is under 25.
EDIT: Totally forgot Pulkkinen.
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Pretty much half are completely unproven in the NHL. This strategy only works if all of those guys reach their ceilings. and what if Hamilton does even reach his ceiling?
Bold strategy to put that many eggs in one basket
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Take AA off the roster same with Holmstrom, Put Dats and Z on the team, Get Jensen off the team same with Sproul, Put Kronner there. and some other scrub. #good2go
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That team would also possibly be dead last for multiple years
Sorry, figured the absence of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, Howard, Ericsson, Abdelkader, etc. would have implied that I didn't mean this should be next year's roster.
I'm saying that's a roster we could put together in a few years with only the acquisition of Hamilton. Since they're all young the loss of 4 1st rounders shouldn't do much harm. Therefore I don't mind paying the price for a Hamilton offer sheet.
even still. any roster, "a few years from now" should probably include Z and Kronwall at the very least.
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It's not as far fetched as you think.
Top 6: Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan all have proven top 6 skill. Jurco has shown flashes and he's one of the youngest full time Wings in a while, I have faith he'll get there. Larkin looks beyond well on his way and Mantha's not much of a stretch for a top 6 role.
Bottom 6: Pulkkinen should be good at least in a 3rd line + PP role right now. Athanasiou with his speed and skill should be fine as a 3rd liner. Holmstrom's more of a question mark right now but 3rd line C's are not uncommon if we need FA to get one, or just put Helm there. Helm and Glendening are proven bottom 6ers and Ferraro should be fine there as well if the playoffs were any indication.
Bottom 2 D: Smith, Jensen, and Sproul as #'s 5-7 should be ok. Smith is proven and Jensen has a pretty mature game. Sproul is just a PP specialist if his defense doesn't improve.
Top 4 D: DeKeyser is proven and from what we've seen from Marchenko he should be fine as a dependable #4. Ouellet, with his calm, responsible game should be able to handle top pairing minutes in a few years given he's got a good partner. If not, put him on the 2nd pairing with Marchenko and bump DeKeyser up to the 1st pairing.
Which brings us to Hamilton. You ask what if Hamilton doesn't reach his ceiling? He's 22 years old, had 42 pts in 72 gms last season, is RH, and is 6'5'' to boot. He's a top pairing guy already and he's only 22. Since dmen tend to mature around 27 he's got a lot of maturing to do. He's absolutely worth it.
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The roster I posted was really meant to show the well-balanced skill throughout the lineup that would enable us to weather the loss of 4 1st rounders through the acquisition of Hamilton.
But add Z and Kronwall? Even better. Z can play reduced/specialty minutes on the 2nd/3rd lines + PP in the twilight of his career while leading the young guys. And Kronwall can do the same on the back-end. Whether on the 1st pairing with Hamilton (if his level of play keeps up into his late 30s), or on the 2nd or 3rd pairings.
I would agree none of this is a stretch. But I will contend that its not a stretch for any of these guys (save Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, and Dekeyser) to come up short of these expectations.
I think its prudent to acknowledge that players don't develop on continuous, linear trajectories. Of course there is always some development.
I love Tatar, but its completely plausible, that he never becomes more than a top-6 complimentary scorer (what I view him as now). You can apply this to any of these guys.
Just because a guy comes into the show at 21/22/23, we cant assume he will continue to get better until he reaches his prime around 27/28/29.
I don't mean to single you out (and I am guilty of it myself) but we need to be careful with how we project these kids.
Another issue, is your theoretical lineup, and its ability to contend, (I dont dislike it btw) is predicated on (pretty much) ALL of Nyquist, Pulkinnen, Mantha, Larkin, Tatar, Sheahan, Hamilton, Mrazek, Ouellet, AA, Holmstrom, bert, Jurco, Marchenko, DDK hitting their peaks (close to it). That's 15 guys you are projecting at (or close to) their peaks. 15 Guys. If half of those guys reach the ability to slot into your lineup (on a contending team) I would be ECSTATIC.
**As an aside/disclaimer, I think Sheahan, Mrazek, Nyquist, Tatar and DDK all need to elevate their games for your roster to contend**
Individually, you haven't placed unrealistic expectations on any of these kids. But when you start expecting them all to hit your projections, that's where you lose me. Know what I am saying?
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Wings are already trading off first round picks at the trade deadline...so what's the difference?
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