Proposal: Off Season Trade Thread vol. II

[BondraTime]

don't think so. also, your hornqvist+ for spezza better involve a really really big +

Josi alone is an over-payment from the Preds for 1 cheap year of Spezza
Forsberg + 12th is closer to Spezza's value at the moment, with another piece added

 

[Benjamin]

don't think so. also, your hornqvist+ for spezza better involve a really really big +

Josi has more value than Spezza. Now their adding a very good prospect, safe and NHL ready prospect AND a 1st thats either 12th overall or a chance at McDavid.

Thats a massive overpayment.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

In what world is a third year defenseman is worth more than a PPG top line centre?

 

[BondraTime]

In what world is a third year defenseman is worth more than a PPG top line centre?

The year that said third year defenseman is a 23 year old #2, on the best contract in the league

 

[Benjamin]

In what world is a third year defenseman is worth more than a PPG top line centre?

Theres a lot more to it than that. -_-

 

[starling]

Spezza + Wier for Shattenkirk + 1st/Rattie/Jaskin could probably work

 

[Icelevel]

Spezza + Wier for Shattenkirk + 1st/Rattie/Jaskin could probably work

maybe i'm in the minority but that doesn't look like enough for spezza alone.

 

[starling]

maybe i'm in the minority but that doesn't look like enough for spezza alone.

Wiercioch doesn't have much value and we have to dump one of our D's if we bring in Shattenkirk.

 

[The Fuhr*]

In what world is a third year defenseman is worth more than a PPG top line centre?

Josi is 23 years old
He averaged 26:25 per game (5th highest total in the NHL this past season)
72GP 13G 40Pts
Six more years on his deal at a 4.0 cap hit

vs

Spezza 30Yrs old
A PPG center who is a UFA in a year

I know what asset has more value to me

 

[Hossa18]

The year that said third year defenseman is a 23 year old #2, on the best contract in the league

He would be a number 3 on Nsh next year and we would be giving Wiercioch back. Also, any deal involving Spezza would probably come with an extension so that it wouldn't be just one year.

 

[God Says No]

maybe i'm in the minority but that doesn't look like enough for spezza alone.

Agreed. IF we trade Spezza it better be a good deal. We don't need centers, so I wouldn't want Berglund as a return. I'd go for something like:

Shat + Rattie + 2nd

Otherwise no deal. (Just a note that I'd prefer to keep Spezza as we won't get as good return as I or other people are expecting)

 

[Hossa18]

Josi is 23 years old
He averaged 26:25 per game (5th highest total in the NHL this past season)
72GP 13G 40Pts
Six more years on his deal at a 4.0 cap hit

vs

Spezza 30Yrs old
A PPG center who is a UFA in a year

I know what asset has more value to me

There will also probably be a bidding war for Spezza so, someone will have to over pay a little bit. Not sure why some people think that Wiercioch has no trade value at the moment. The guy has averaged over .40 pt per game in his first couple of years. Also, I don't think Josi would average that much ice time next year with the emergence of Jones.

 

[The Waffler]

Saying Josi is a #2 D on a 19th place team is like saying that Kyle Turris is a #1 C on a 21st place team.

 

[BondraTime]

He would be a number 3 on Nsh next year and we would be giving Wiercioch back. Also, any deal involving Spezza would probably come with an extension so that it wouldn't be just one year.

He will not be lower than #2 on Nashville for the foreseeable future.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

Saying Josi is a #2 D on a 19th place team is like saying that Kyle Turris is a #1 C on a 21st place team.

Josi was MVP at the World's last year while playing amongst some of the best players in the world, and the only reason he is a #2, is because Weber is on his team. He's also the reason they let Suter walk. The guy might win a Norris one day, depending where he ends up. He'll at least be in the conversation. He is still relatively low profile, but there probably aren't 20 d-men in the league most GM's would take ahead of him if they had their pick.

 

[BondraTime]

Josi was MVP at the World's last year while playing amongst some of the best players in the world, and the only reason he is a #2, is because Weber is on his team. He's also the reason they let Suter walk. The guy might win a Norris one day, depending where he ends up. He'll at least be in the conversation. He is still relatively low profile, but there probably aren't 20 d-men in the league most GM's would take ahead of him if they had their pick.

Josi is in the tier below Karlsson, Pietrangelo and Doughty when it comes to young D, grouped with guys like McDonagh.

 

[BondraTime]

Saying Josi is a #2 D on a 19th place team is like saying that Kyle Turris is a #1 C on a 21st place team.

Using this logic we can't consider Spezza a real #1 then, we are only a 21st place team.

 

[Dr.Sens(e)]

Josi is in the tier below Karlsson, Pietrangelo and Doughty when it comes to young D, grouped with guys like McDonagh.

I don't disagree.

Either way, the point is that if the Sens could get either a Josi or a McDonagh or an equivalent, who was only 23 years old, it would be a major coup long-term.

 

[SixthSens]

New thread coming up.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1660379