GDT: Off-Season Thread IV - July 1st 'Oh ****' Edition

[Heaton]

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[Filppula]

Why is Holland so predictable? Why is he re-signing Helm? He's not going to help us moving forward. He's injury prone, offensively non existent, and on the decline. Sure, give the man a raise!

 

[ChadS]

here we go, 35 year old Helmer.

 

[Leronziia]

5 years @ 3.85M for Helm.

 

[Shaman464]

So, every single player the team ever adds should be primarily offensive, at least until the offense is taken care of? You can't, you know, maybe look at adding offense and preserving defense at the same time?

*Looks at GF/GA last season* *Sees the only playoff team with a negative goal differential and the lowest goals for*

Yeah, maybe they should focus on signing offensive players. Especially with half their team regressing.

 

[Shaman464]

Wow, and I thought I hated the Abdelkader deal.

 

[ricky0034]

The reason you guys are all going mental here is that you just want to see a bunch of kids. Then, when the roster melts down and the team tanks, well, that's actually what you really wanted all along.

The organization wants to make the playoffs, and Holland wants to make the playoffs, so you (possibly) sign Helm for 2 or 3 years at ~2.75 a season because he's a better bottom 6 winger than Jurco is.

The team flat out doesn't want what you want, and they haven't for 3+ years now. It's not at all an inscrutable decision-making process if someone can set aside their own value system and look at the situation through someone elses.

this seems wildly optimistic in both term and money

i'm expecting something more along the lines of ~4 million for 4-5 years or ~3.5 million for 6-7


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[HockeyinHD]

5 years @ 3.85M for Helm.

That is a bad contract. Like, really bad. I was thinking 3 at ~2.75. That's really bad. I mean, really bad. Bad bad bad.

 

[taliababa]

Crapocalypse now.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

Would you guys do Wideman @ 50%, 3rd round pick for Smith?

 

[Shoalzie]

This and he's going to probably give 5 for 5 to Nielsen. I would've preferred tanking.

 

[Frk It]

That is a bad contract. Like, really bad. I was thinking 3 at ~2.75. That's really bad. I mean, really bad. Bad bad bad.

Refreshing, and I agree with you.

 

[Ishad]

Pack it in, today is only going to get worse.

 

[The Geelee]

Almost 4 mil AAV at 5 years for a player who's never hit 35 points.

Yup, this day is going to be horrible.

 

[Syckle78]

Well were off to a terrific start. This is going swimmingly!

 

[Frk It]

I'm just beside myself right now.

 

[Filppula]

Hahahaha Ken Holland you've done it again!

What an absolutely moronic deal. Wow.

 

[Syckle78]

Would you guys do Wideman @ 50%, 3rd round pick for Smith?

No thanks.

 

[Shaman464]

Holland it's called a negotiation, not an auction, the number is supposed to go down from the number Helm says, not up.

Seriously. This is a **** contract.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

That is a bad contract. Like, really bad. I was thinking 3 at ~2.75. That's really bad. I mean, really bad. Bad bad bad.

See, this is what some very smart posters have been saying, ken holland is trying to ruin the franchise.

 

[Zetterberg4Captain]

My hope is some rfas play it very hard, go to arbitration and screw us over as punishment for hollands inepitude.

 

[HockeyinHD]

Refreshing, and I agree with you.

Most often Holland's contracts are defensible if you look at it through the teams' perspective. The Helm deal is just... not.

The Nyquist deal made sense in context. The Abdelkader deal makes sense in context. Ericsson too, really.

I don't know what the point is with the Helm contract. It's bad right away. I need to have someone present a case explaining this to me, because I'm not seeing it.

No, not 'Holland is a moron'.

 

[Frk It]

Would you guys do Wideman @ 50%, 3rd round pick for Smith?

We've made enough bad decisions this week, don't think I could handle another.

 

[Cal Vandelay]

As long as Kenny doesn't panic and top it off with a 3 year deal for Quincey.

 

[GoAwayDanCleary]

**** this man.