Blue Jays Discussion: Off-Season Pt III | Winter meetings are over. Still waiting for stuff to happen

[phillipmike]

Dominoes need to start falling soon. Seems like there’s a real game of chess being played

Here is one

 

[Morgs]

And another guy we're tied to.

I'm pretty level-headed, but even I'm getting stir crazy here. Its really starting to feel like players actually are using us to get their paydays elsewhere right now.

 

[shaner8989]

Disgraceful offseason

 

[Morgs]

Well I'm glad the Jays didnt do this, damn.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Wait, what? That option year the buyout is the same as the salary? I've never seen that before.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Well I'm glad the Jays didnt do this, damn.

Hendricks is great but that contract is fugly.

 

[Morgs]

So either 18M/3years or 13.5/4. Less bad than I thought, but that's a lot of money for a reliever, regardless how good he is.

 

[xxOCZMSxx]

Stupid money for Hendriks.
If we’re gonna overpay, I’d rather it be a position player.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Rather give that kind of money to Jesse Chavez

 

[habamillions]

Wow that deal for hendricks is crazy for a reliever. Jays should have claimed hand when they had the chance when he was on waivers

 

[SDig14]

I mean, we are "linked" to like 30 players, ha. Even if we have a great off-season 90% of them will sign with someone else...

I would have liked Hendricks, but thats too much money and term for a reliever. Especially a guy that the A's were using like he was a college starter. Lots of miles on that arm the last few years (and the numbers are still insanely good).

 

[dredeye]

That Hendricks deal is crazy. No one should be surprised we didn’t get him.

 

[dredeye]

Disgraceful offseason

Oh there’s Shaner and his sensible takes

 

[canucksfan]

Overpaying for a reliever like that makes no sense. Liam is going to be 32 in a month.

 

[TheMadHatTrick]

Well I'm glad the Jays didnt do this, damn.

Ewww. Gross contract.

 

[Brock Boeser Laser Show]

I think the smart play is to wait it out. Most of the teams that had money to play with have spent it. No need to get desperate and throw down a regrettable contract. I don't want guys here that aren't fully all in for this organization. If you just want to use the Jays to pry more dollars out of a team elsewhere you can go pound sand.

I don't think it's the end of the world if you sign some short term deals and keep long term flexibility. We have a lot of good prospects that will make impact in a year or two and I wouldn't want to be locked into some bad contracts because the front office felt pressured and caved to an agents outrageous demands.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[trellaine201]

$13M a year essentially? $15M is a buyout.

 

[TF97]

For what its worth the White Sox were a possible suitor for Springer entering the offseason and I would argue they remained one even after adding Eaton, despite what reports might have said. This is only because Eloy is nothing short of a disaster defensively in left field and you don't bring in someone like La Russa unless you plan on winning now. Now, that is two possible suitors for Springer in the Mets and White Sox who have committed relatively significant dollars to other areas and it could complicate any sort of potential signing of Springer.

 

[Anthrax442]

If we look for a silver lining, the Jays remained in play for every big nam, but they have not overspent in terms of dollars or assets for anyone.

 

[Discoverer]

I would have been fine with something around 3/39 for Hendriks. I wasn't a big fan of the Will Smith deal for Atlanta, but Hendriks is better and didn't cost the compensation pick, so something in that range seems reasonable.

But adding on another year at $15 million? Yikes. I'll pass, thanks.

 

[BlueForever75]

I'm glad we didnt dish out for Hendriks. I would rather add that 13 million to increase the offers to two players annually like LeMatheiu and Realmuto to get deals done. Overpay on position players or starting pitchers. Not bullpen arms.

 

[Gargyn]

Maybe I’m in the minority but I don’t mind our bullpen. Romano, Dolis, Hatch, Merryweather all have the ability to be top relievers. Cole, Kay, Zeuch, Stripling are all decent. Save the money and spend it on another top starter or number 2 guy and please god get us a 3B. Would love Suarez or Ramirez but would probably mean us emptying the prospect cupboard.

 

[BlueForever75]

Maybe I’m in the minority but I don’t mind our bullpen. Romano, Dolis, Hatch, Merryweather all have the ability to be top relievers. Cole, Kay, Zeuch, Stripling are all decent. Save the money and spend it on another top starter or number 2 guy and please god get us a 3B. Would love Suarez or Ramirez but would probably mean us emptying the prospect cupboard.

I would rather acquire Bryant from the Cubs. It would be an upgrade to what we had last season at a lower cost. Ultimately the goal should be to get better where ever you can. Suarez and Ramirez would cost way to much prospect capital and I dont think the Jays are in position to dish out prospects at that level just yet. Once we know that Vladdy, Bichette and Biggio are true stars that are signed at reasonable contract extensions thats when we dish out prospects to put us over the top. Right now free agents and cheap upgrades is the way to go.

 

[Hoverhand]

Rather give that kind of money to Jesse Chavez

I'm amazed he's still in the league, totally forgot about him.