Speculation: Off Season Jeff Skinner sweepstakes
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I hope NYI makes a big play for him. Makes sense on both sides.
NYI needs a goal scorer and has the cap space to add a big piece.
Skinner wants to stay relatively close to Toronto (NYC/Long Island is a short flight away) and probably wants to play on a playoff/Cup contending team with great coaching and management.
NYI needs a goal scorer and has the cap space to add a big piece.
Skinner wants to stay relatively close to Toronto (NYC/Long Island is a short flight away) and probably wants to play on a playoff/Cup contending team with great coaching and management.
What is the knock on Skinner. He puts the puck in the net, and every time I have seen him he plays hard. Locker room problem? If possible I think his game is under rated.
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They may be close on the terms of the deal, but there's no imminent time deadline. This could drag out a while. I expect JBot's top priority at the moment is getting a coach in place.
Doohickie
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The time it takes to drive from Buffalo to Toronto is equivalent to the time it takes to get to the airport and clear security, let alone flight time. Perhaps you don't realize how closer Toronto and Buffalo are.
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If he's not scoring, he's not contributing to the team, and given his defensive shortcomings, he's often a liability more than anything in those situations.
Which is fine, assuming he's on one of his ridiculous goal-scoring heaters. But when he goes cold, he's ice-cold and just has zero use in those games.
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You would think that, but we're talking about Jason Botterill here, and he sucks.
Hellinator
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No shit Buffalo is closer. I think anyone with some brain competency knows that.
But NYI still provides a destination that's still relatively close to Toronto.
Skinner had a full NMC and had complete control over his destination. Peter Chiarelli could have made that trade.Definitely. Can you believe the horrible deal he made to get him here in the first place?
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What if he says to Dubas on July 1st that he would except $5 mil per year to play in TO. Does he make room for him?
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Well, he "kinda" did. Via his NMC, he limited the destination to basically 1 team (Tor didn't have a need for him). By limiting it to 1 buyer, he influenced the return.
As a Canes fan, I was hoping for a 1st (like a deadline return). Would have been happen with either the STL or SJ 1st alone.
Given the Canes weren't going to re-sign him if he wasn't traded, the way it worked out in the end, Buffalo's 2nd ended up being pick #36 and STL/SJ's 1st is probably going to be late 1st round. The Buffalo 2020 3rd probably is fair in making up that difference between those 2.
Carolina knew he wasn't going to re-sign there and he only wanted to be traded to Buffalo, they had little to no leverage in the deal. When you have no leverage the deal is usually underwhelming. Props to Botterill for buying a player at a discount when the seller had zero leverage in negotations. So in a way yes Jeff Skinner did have a say in what Carolina could get in return for him.
Hellinator
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Hmmm interesting. Agrees to make less than Marleau after a 40 goal season? Is goal scoring really the problem in Toronto or something else I wonder?
Hellinator
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Which a Gm that sucks would have overpaid because they didn't realize that they had leverage or an idea that the said player is a need or a fit there. Carolina had another year on the contract and didn't have to trade him at all yet. Carolina didn't just come and say give me whatever you want for this guy. Jason made a good deal for his team.
The reality is a little of column a and a lot of column b. Botterill gave up relatively little for a 1st line player. Kudos to him. Carolina didnt have to move him at that particular time, but the clock was ticking. They got the best offer they could for a player that gave them one possible team he'd go to. Botterill didn't completely flub a situation where he was bidding against himself. I'm personally not all that impressed and I dont think I'm in the minority.
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The fact that initially Carolina fans (and Buffalo fans) thought Buffalo fleeced Carolina in the trade, leads me to believe that it wasn't quite out there prior to the trade, nor a particularly good negotiating tactic to advise that your under contract player would ONLY waive their ntc to come to Buffalo at a time where they didn't even need to trade him. Maybe Jason could have ruled out some teams but seems to me it was more speculation than anything.
Aladyyn
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He's bad at defense (though he was better than I expected this season) and doesn't create for others.
But he drives play, scores goals, and draws a ton of penalties. People tend to ignore 2 of these.
avsfan09
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The Avalanche have alot of cap and he is friendly with Landeskog. Also need a guy who can shoot. That said I think Buffalo has the edge here.
Negan4Coach
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Don Wadell should offer him $5 mill to come back to Raleigh so that he can be part of a playoff team finally.
Sabres are playing hardball, they learned their lesson. I'm expecting a six-year deal at $8.25 M or so. NMC clause could be sticky issue.
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Hughes4Calder
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If the constant rumours of him wanting to stay close to home are true then e couldn’t really pick anywhere further away than Vancouver.
