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HF Habs: Off-Season Discussion (Part Duh)
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So let's move a dman to make room. Obviously not Markov (that created more scoring chances against than for, and also because he's a Hab).
Let's move one of the best dmen we had this playoffs (even last) and that is physical so we can play grenade puck Tinordi.
I don't see the fascination with keeping Markov and you can't use the "vet" excuse when 3/4 of our dmen are vets...
Sure he put up 50 pts, but he can't skate which is kind of important seeing how he's making many more bad pinches and his play is degrading.
Don't compare one of the best defense men of all time to Markov as well.
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If the goal is to put Desharnais on wing, do you think Hudon is better right now than Desharnais on LW ?
Actually there is no way to prove whether run and gun hockey would have been better or worse than the style the Canadiens played last year. It's still a style I can't quite figure out.
Was the improvement in the team due to the system or was it because Price improved? Again, there is no way of telling. Budaj doesn't belong in this argument. In one year he only played 13 games. Hard to make any judgments on that sample size.
I do know that when the Habs skated hard and used an aggressive forecheck, they gave Tampa all they could handle and then some. When they fell back into their defensive shell reverted to the chip and chase in game 6, Tampa completely dominated.
If nothing else, the team needs to develop some kind of a breakout strategy. PK Subban's high flips and Markov's stretch passes are good to throw into the mix once in a while but using them all the time is a desperation tactic.
Was the improvement in the team due to the system or was it because Price improved? Again, there is no way of telling. Budaj doesn't belong in this argument. In one year he only played 13 games. Hard to make any judgments on that sample size.
I do know that when the Habs skated hard and used an aggressive forecheck, they gave Tampa all they could handle and then some. When they fell back into their defensive shell reverted to the chip and chase in game 6, Tampa completely dominated.
If nothing else, the team needs to develop some kind of a breakout strategy. PK Subban's high flips and Markov's stretch passes are good to throw into the mix once in a while but using them all the time is a desperation tactic.
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regardless. We need to move DD away from MT. His strange mancrush on DD has come to the detriment of the PP and at overall devellopment of Galchenyuk
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No Davey. No. In no way. Not on the fourth to first lines as center or winger.
Gone. There's no other choice
Gone. There's no other choice
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So you magically want to acquire scoring by paying the NHL a bit more to close their eyes?
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If we sign Petry, we're set on D. Maybe move Emelin if we really need money for a big forward.
What we need for next season:
1. Galchenyuk as a center full time
2. A good top 6 winger, either a LWer to take Galchy's spot or a RWer better than Gally
3. A young guy to step up for a top 6 complimentary role (can't be sure we have one until the training camp, however there are many guys that might be able to fill this role so there's hope)
4. A third liner with some offensive skills to give Eller someone to play with (the other guy on that line will probably end up being Weise, something I don't have a problem with). Might be a young guy like Ghetto/Hudon if we end up having the luxury of 2 guys standing out at the camp. Could be a FA too. Worst case scenario: one of DD or PaP.
What we need for next season:
1. Galchenyuk as a center full time
2. A good top 6 winger, either a LWer to take Galchy's spot or a RWer better than Gally
3. A young guy to step up for a top 6 complimentary role (can't be sure we have one until the training camp, however there are many guys that might be able to fill this role so there's hope)
4. A third liner with some offensive skills to give Eller someone to play with (the other guy on that line will probably end up being Weise, something I don't have a problem with). Might be a young guy like Ghetto/Hudon if we end up having the luxury of 2 guys standing out at the camp. Could be a FA too. Worst case scenario: one of DD or PaP.
1. davey (the person) is not a bad guy, i want him gone but i wish him well. 2. Lol. 3. Plex is a product of the soft regime, nothing will ever change that. 4. See #2.
We had a run and gun system back in 2013. We scored first for 60% of the games!
And then we collapsed in 5 against the Sens
And then we collapsed in 5 against the Sens
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There's just no way for me to keep Desharnais in this line-up for next season, especially considering the two guys that could legitimately crack the roster next season are Andrighetto and Hudon - two relatively small guys. Are we going back the smurf route?
5. Lower the price of concession stand products as an apology for the product we've had to endure.
Hit a hot goalie and injuries were insane in that series. Plus, they tried to change the style of play before the playoffs, hence the slump going in.
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jwrocks1
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1. can happen if we move DD
2. with DD gone, we have more cap space, but we'd likely need to move Emelin or PAP as well
3. we have 3, maybe 4 guys who will fight hard for that spot (Androghetto, Hudon, Scherbak, McCarron)
4. see 3
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I agree. Trading DD would ensure Galchenyuk has his C spot next season.
I fully expect one of those 4 guys to make the team out of the camp. Which? I have no idea honestly. But if Bournival could force his way into a line-up that didn't have a place for him, I'm confident in the ability of one of those guys to make the team.
Therrien would just play DLR at centre and keep Chucky at wing. He'll find a way, don't worry.
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Johnson, who else?
And there's a difference between small impact players, such as Johnson, and small AHL caliber players, such as Desharnais.
Their best line was 5'8", 5'11" and 6'0" Not exactly smurfs, but pretty small in terms of the NHL. Overall though, Tampa has smaller players but those players don't play like small soft players. (ps. Johnson is really soft and dives a lot)
Montreal has players like PAP and Desharnais who play like they're made of pillows. Overall though, I think Tampa is a much softer team and they proved it. They just don't have those ultra soft players, besides Johnson. Although he still goes to the areas Desharnais doesn't, he's still soft.
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Johnson, kucherov, Drouin, Brown, Morrow, Stralman, and Callahan are all under 6'
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Pacioretty - Plekanec - Weise
Hudon - Eller - Gally
Galchy - Mitchell - Prust
Flynn - DLR - PAP
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