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Nah. I think we're just lazy. "It's an e. Make it an e."
I think English is just a weird language for weird people.

I know a few German location names get absolutely butchered and lengthened in their English versions

Köln->Cologne

Bayern->Bavaria

Neither word is particularly difficult to pronounce (although the umlaut may throw off English natives) but somehow they get twice as many syllables in English.
 

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I think English is just a weird language for weird people.

I know a few German location names get absolutely butchered and lengthened in their English versions

Köln->Cologne

Bayern->Bavaria

Neither word is particularly difficult to pronounce (although the umlaut may throw off English natives) but somehow they get twice as many syllables in English.

Those cases are probably more "parallel Latinate names that won out over centuries" kinda thing. Why do we call it Germany and not Deutschland? Why do we call it Finland and not Suomi?

These are cases of straight transliterations, and we just do it wrong. FYI, on the Rangers board, a whole much of them spell it Shestyorkin. It's just not that much of a stretch or effort to get it right.
 

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All right, well take the Turks and the Hungarians, but we don’t want the Romanians!

My semi-occasional reminder: if you haven't read The Ballad of the Whiskey Robber, you should go find that book and read it right now. It's about Attila Ambrus, a third rate Romanian goalie who sneaks over the border to post-communist Hungary, starts robbing banks, and becomes an instant folk hero. It's an incredible book, one of the best I've ever read.
 

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Those cases are probably more "parallel Latinate names that won out over centuries" kinda thing. Why do we call it Germany and not Deutschland? Why do we call it Finland and not Suomi?

These are cases of straight transliterations, and we just do it wrong. FYI, on the Rangers board, a whole much of them spell it Shestyorkin. It's just not that much of a stretch or effort to get it right.
There really is no such thing as a "straight" transliteration though, unless there is some some of standard agreed to by speakers of both languages, and given the nature of language in general it's not really surprising there is no standard.
 

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Informal romanizations of Cyrillic - Wikipedia

The best indicator, in my opinion, is the set of romanised characters that native speakers use when their alphabet is not available. "Yo" is the overwhelming choice for Cyrillic ë after a hard consonant.

...nah, never mind. I'm wrong. Transliteration is actually defined as concerning the charterer's visual representation, not its aural representation. The technical term for that appears to be transcription.

Nevertheless, despite the fact that multiple transliteration standards exist for Cyrillic to Roman, the systems that change "ë" to "yo" sound right, and are the ones I saw when I studied Russian in college.
 
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Those cases are probably more "parallel Latinate names that won out over centuries" kinda thing. Why do we call it Germany and not Deutschland? Why do we call it Finland and not Suomi?
Cologne's "English" name at least goea back to the Roman Empire era.

The North-Germanic got to brand my folks to everyone at time when Sum was still referring to one specific tribe in (nowadays) South-Western Finland. Except the Scots Gaelic folk call us and our country Suòmach and Suòmaidh for some reason.

Germans are a fun bunch, everyone calls them by the name of the Germanic tribe most relevant to themselves: to French they're Alemannis, to Italians they're Tedeschi, my lot calls them after Saxons.
 
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Informal romanizations of Cyrillic - Wikipedia

The best indicator, in my opinion, is the set of romanised characters that native speakers use when their alphabet is not available. "Yo" is the overwhelming choice for Cyrillic ë after a hard consonant.

...nah, never mind. I'm wrong. Transliteration is actually defined as concerning the charterer's visual representation, not its aural representation. The technical term for that appears to be transcription.

Nevertheless, despite the fact that multiple transliteration standards exist for Cyrillic to Roman, the systems that change "ë" to "yo" sound right, and are the ones I saw when I studied Russian in college.

I spent last summer in Bulgaria of all places, so I get it
 
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caught a replay. was fun. let's do it again.

has anybody mentioned taem is playing like this without 2 of its top 3 d-men?
Those are just the problems you have to overcome.. But the Rangers not having their shiny new goalie means we just beat the pathetic version of the club and that's a hill they shouldn't have to overcome.
 

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We lose any more defensemen and we’re gonna have to find a way to get Mike Card into the bubble.

This prompted me to find out what Mike Card is up to these days.

Completely insane as it sounds, he's still playing professional hockey: Mike Card Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Then that led me down the rabbit hole to see how many players from that edition of the Sabres are still active. I'm assuming Ryan Miller will retire after this playoffs and Andrej Sekera looks pretty done as well.

But what blew my mind is that all of Derek Roy, Maxim Afinogenov, Dmitri Kalinin, Jiri Novotny, and Nathan Paestch are still playing in various leagues including the KHL and AHL.
 

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